Why is FBS against a fee Denmark?/Poland, you suck.
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Grev Per
Tonight, I am drunk. And I have several bones to pick. The title implies that I will solely attack FBS, that however is not entirely accurate. I would like to pick a bone with the Polish Secessionist Front. This pack of unprincipled Qvislinger, from a nation known for it's Solidarnost, simply does not care for Danish independence. Now I would understand if they didn't care for German independence. Germany did invade them. However when I asked the Polish Secessionist Front what they thought of Danish independence, they blamed us FOR OUR GEOGRAPHY, THAT OUR GEOGRAPHY ALLOWED SWEDEN TO ATTACK GERMANY/POLAND.
My God, it's too bad we chose to be the northern peninsula of the European continent. If only we hadn't chosen to be the northern peninsula of the European continent, GERMANY/POLAND would be a free nation. Naturally this is a retarded statement. If Poland really wished to stay free, then they would stayed hundreds of kilometers east of where they are now, which is where the first Polish nation existed.
But the truly retarded issue is that they simply refuse to support Denmark, despite the fact that I and several other members joined PSF in order for them to actually be able to be voted for in the last elections. Now I see this was a mistake, our act of friendship was not politely rejected, it was rudely rejected. Our occupied brothers didn't politely rebuff our requests for aid in our struggle, they FLATLY rejected us for aid in our struggle. They have no interest in anything but themselves. Which is too damn bad. It really is a crying shame.
Now for the maliciousness of an FBS Government.
Today I was pondering why would the only large party in Sweden that would be against an independent Denmark. I thought over the reasons in my head.
1. Perhaps they are worried about their national sovereignty. This of course makes no sense. The only nations we border that aren't Sweden are England. I don't think England would invade Sweden. In fact, of course they wouldn't invade Sweden.
2. Perhaps they are worried about Goons/ or /v/akistani's invading Denmark as soon as we get independent. The Goons I don't think, are aware of Denmark at all. The /v/akistani's respect Denmark. I myself am married to Dio Brando. Dio Brando and the /v/akistani's have on countless times mentioned how much they like E-Denmark. Why do I mention this? Because that makes us the exact opposite of E-Germany, which back then was a nameless, cultureless and relatively empty of everything nation. Pakistan has never come to Denmark because Pakistan doesn't want to ruin Denmark. I would go so far as saying that Denmark is one of the few nations that Pakistan actually liked.
And then, you run out of reasons. The only logical reason remaining is that they simply don't want to let loose their territorial conquests. They don't want Danes to enjoy their own country. In fact they have said this on several occasions, "oh why can't you Danes just integrate and be happy?" "oh why can't you Danes just be Swedish?" blah blah blah BULLSHIT.
It is clear to me that the only reason remaining for the FBS control over Denmark, is to oppress and prevent an independent Denmark. To squeeze the ethnic Danes out of the game. Can anyone else think of another reason for the forced continued anschluss with Denmark? Is it so simple that FBS is the largest populist party in Erepublik? Is that it? That would contradict their politics of pragmatism. What is the reason?
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Hm, you are aware of that as soon as Denmark is free - people will attempt to take over it unless you got lots of Danish players? Does not necessary have to be the goons or the /v/ers.
Well Denmark was free for several months, no one ever took it over then. That argument makes no sense with regards to the history of the independent nation.
In fact a lot of the citizens were simply Swedish.
Also, it would take 2500 people to take over Denmark in order for them to invade Sweden. It would take even more for them to win....
That was then my friend, these times are different. Not that I don\'t support a free Denmark, I want all nations to be free however I just wanted to let you know about that. There are a lot of people that want to run a country now and the game players are higher than at that time, Greece did not have a huge population, yet it was taken over along with other countries. Ireland too, however I am not going to say that the person who took over it was nice or bad, but he won the elections - even though this did not happen to Ireland ages ago.
Oh yes, I\'m not so worried about that. Many of the former Danes who lived in Denmark will come back when she is free. None but a few believe that this will ever happen. However unless the invading forces are quite large I do think we would have no problems. Already the Danish/German party is almost 50 people. It would take 50 active people to take over Denmark.
There are no poles, no danes, no germans and no swedes. We are all citizens of one country which happens to have a flag that\'s yellow and blue.
We all manage to run an economy that has potential to be the worlds greatest if the inflation problem can be battled. We stand strong against the far-right gangsters in Romania and alike. Newbies who start in \"Sweden\", and all other citizens for that matter get the opportunity to do more in less time and enjoy the game more than what citizens of an \"independent\" Denmark or Poland ever could do.
Good article, voted.
(i thoght you were married to Skinke...)
Grev Per. The main reason is because Erepublik doesnt even allow countries to free conquered parts. When V1 comes something will probably happen.
Radsoc - We already have the worlds greatest economy. And the inflation is fictive, those %-statistics arent reliable.
Radsoc, somehow you are able to make words like \"revolution\" sound incredibly and utterly boring. Do you really think that your boring ass viewpoints were the same way that Lenin and Mao got into power? God no. Lenin and Mao were actually intelligent. They went for slogans that people actually cared about. Lenin didn\'t say \"Let\'s end the oppression of interest rates on society by overthrowing the evil bankers\" as a party slogan, the slogan of the revolution was \"Peace, Land and Bread.\" Fundamental, sympathetic needs of the people. You, like many other socialists, have completely forgotten this fundamental philosophy.
Jan, I married Dio, I am engaged to Skinke. I see no laws against polygamy. 😛
Zig, I\'m talking hypothetically. I\'ve asked several times what different parties think about Danish independence in a potential future. The only response from FBS that I ever got was from Flammbar who said he *might* support *one or two* independent provinces. Naturally we are talking about the future. But seeing as I am the leader of a single-issue party, and that this single issue has some media interest, I\'m going to milk it for all it\'s worth. Wouldn\'t you? Especially since it\' is the government party, the most hated party (no offense, it\'s just not very popular to love you), that is the most against Danish independence, well by golly this is gold!
That can\'t be for long if the economy is over-heating like that. I\'m pretty sure the inflation % tells us something about the state of the economy even if it isn\'t completely reliable, and 25% is worse than the 5% some countries have.
So naturally, it\'s possible and favorable to reduce inflation.
Im all for a free Denmark as well as a free Poland and Germany and that they all are set free ASAP.
We aren\'t a large happy family.If together it only against somebody.
Question:who with whom and against whom?
We are discussing this in congress. I cant say the outcome already. But you dont have to be so hysterical about this. As you say you run a single-issue party and if Denmark would be declared free already you would have nothing to do until V1 🙂
I referred to Solidarnosc because it\'s the only Polish word I know that isn\'t a curse word. Well that and fritski. oh and piwo. But actually Solidarnosc is a really cool aspect of history. It would take a lot of balls to be part of that union in a government that did not see lightly upon it. I mean Gromulka is famous for having said \"My only regret is that we weren\'t allowed to participate more in the suppressing of the Prague revisionists.\" or something like that. That\'s insane.
Of course they are mystified in a Poland that never liked it\'s \"communist opressors.\" But it is cool. It\'s always interesting, those that stand up against power at the risk of themselves. Could I do that? Could you do that?
Zig, indeed. But then I could take a vacation! It would be smooth sailing. I could write articles about how E-Denmark is like the battlestar galactica. I could focus more on my company, Danske Pølser til Svenske Kvinder!, I could make an e-history of Denmark for the e-wiki. I could drink a whole lot more and watch movies more often. I could use a lot more time to download porn.
Radsoc - I´ve had this discussion plenty of times by now. Read this thread http://erepublik.se/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2139 . And please dont just rely on statistics Erepublik provides us with, almost all are incorrect.
Does everyone remember what poland did when Russia was attacked? they ended MPP instead of fighting to help russia. What did i do? I pulled all rescources to help Poland even though i knew we would lose. Only reason i stopped is because hungary attacked CZ.
Arminaz, I think you broke your ctrl+v button. 😛
You know what, it reminds me alot a situation, when I was fourteen and I\'ve decided to escape from home. For gaining indenpendence.
Do I have to add, that when I came back to my parents, after three days, I was dirty as hell, and almost dead of startavion? 🙂
I don\'t want you to get me wrong, for I\'m not against freedom.
But freedom should be something more than catchy word, which is rustled to the left and right after washing it from it\'s initial meaning.
And that\'s why all articles of this kind doesn\'t really have any greater sense. For me.
Well unlike you, we were free beforehand. We were conquered because Sweden couldn\'t conquer anybody else.... Finland had been taken care of by Norway, and I am not sure if they were bordering England, but I don\'t think so.
Unlike you, Denmark has allies that will give gold to them for companies X[)
Vaclav - Companies need workers.
\"Because that makes us the exact opposite of E-Germany, which back then was a nameless, cultureless and relatively empty of everything nation.\"
If you go on with that then you can name you party independent Denmark and delete Germany - so you just make all hating you for you way of becoming free again.
To the Poles I have ever said they have special deal with the government but nobody has told us about the content - so they don\'t care about anything they just troll Germany or Germans...
Grev, please, tell me - does the fact, that Poland has been conquered earlier changes anything? Our countries are both dependent of Sweden. And we should support eachselves in this situation, no matter what (or, at least I\'ll do).
Of course, I DO find PSF\'s words rude in the way you quoted them. But as far as I know, originally they hadn\'t any pejorative significance, it wasn\'t a blame, but stated fact - just like the one, that Denmark was conquered for fancy (I\'m quoting You! xD). Your interpretation of these is, well, I won\'t say \"incorrect\", but a little exaggerated. Or, maybe I don\'t know something 🙂.
@Vaclav - I won\'t comment what you\'ve said, because it\'s not worthy...
I agree with DKN.
Also Ziggy, they have enough workers. Also if there was a denmark actually here, more and more people will join game from denmark. In V1 there will be alot more danish players if denmark is free. Also same with Germany.
PLEASE COMMEN PRABAB, there needs to be an answer!
@DKN - I\'m against this \"German hate machine\" that\'s cancer killing PSF, but I find it\'s origins, urm, quite reliable 🙂.
what about making germany and denmark independent and creating an convention/alliance which makes germany, denmark and sweden trade partners. furthermore they would protect each other. other countries could join that convention/alliance too. the only question is: what would be the advantage for sweden? we would shut up about making us independent, so we would let you alone in sweden politics, and of course we would like owe you something, but thats gotta be discussed in a deal/agreement.
as always grev per: awesome article!
So you hate all germans? That sounds a bit odd to me, very sterotypical... So, you think all germans, act, and think the same? Remember Germany had no reason to attack poland (a nation with only 1 active member) untill they lost all their land. They offered to take that land and actually use it. Your presidents in poland always betrayed their allies (not helping russia when they were attacked), and cheated.
Although, Once you had suffiecent enough people to be free m sure DKN would have given you idenpendence. You were all treated as equals in Germany. Though, i do not agree that countries should be taken over.
dammit, dont take this game that serious... just lets assume here is no racism and everybody could run every country (like a german would run sweden, i wouldnt be against that, i\'d rather support it). when sweden supports the independence of germany and denmark they could make themselves sure, that the right users are running the country.
It was,maybe,effects rather than a cause are important Vaclav.
Of course I have nothing against independence of Germany, even I will help,what you say about Volga-Vyatka the Region?It\'s good place (appropriately moved away) to making existence of New Germany. 😃
\"simply does not care for Danish independence\".
Bingo!
Can you gove any plausible reason why should we?
To make Sweden weaker? But, wat a minute, Sweden is our friend, we want Sweden to be strong! Maybe to make it easier for Germany to recover? But, wait a minute, Germany took our independence!
To repay your help during war? But, wait a minute, there was no your help, you were counting on Germany to help you with Sweden!
So please accept that every nation will care about oneselves and stop this grumbling.
If you want independence talk with Swedes, not with Poles.
It\'s Sweden, so why you blame Polish for that? 😃 I don\'t care about your independence, because I can\'t help with that. Do what you must do, and don\'t look for anyone.
\"When V1 comes something will probably happen.\" Any way
DNS have this freedom lib on its agenda...
u sux 2 😶
alcohol 4 lyfe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8fKYQkVyM0&feature=related
Personally, I was for a free Denmark right after the war but your childish hatemongering made me change opinion. Just keep going and you\'ll never get your Denmark back.
I Denmark only had a more humble spokesperson who doesn\'r keep offending Sweden as a country and swedes as persons I\'m sure that most swedes would already support a indipendent Denmark. I\'m sorry Grev Per, the biggest issue to solve for a free Denmark is you, not your country nor the other danes.
I support a indipendent Germany, Poland and Denmark, preferably immidiatly if admin would make that possible. I do however think that you Grev Per is the reason to why only Germany and Poland will become free in the first step of Swedens effort to neutralize the effects of the wars we have fought.
Well Grev, having a history of calling Swedish gay and apes won\'t help you as Kape said 🙂
Please guys dont feed the trolls... that includes drunk trolls.
\"Tonight, I am drunk\"
No way!
The answer is simple - FBS is a bunch of imperialists.
You have never been very good at making friends around here Per but this is just ridiculous. Who do you expect to help you now, if the government drops its forward-looking liberalistic policy in the light of these writing of yours?
What is a ``fee Denmark´´?