To the Government of Canada - Buy Canadian
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SledDog
Governments buy a lot of stuff. Our government manufactures a lot of stuff of course for purposes of maintaining a supply in emergencies and to service the needs of new players, both in terms of goods they need and in providing them with jobs if necessary. However there are also a lot of outside purchases made so that government reserves aren't drawn on. These outside purchases are necessary and help to put money into the economy. There is nothing wrong with this... so long as the money is going into our economy.
We have little to worry about when it comes to government purchases of raw materials. Ministry of Industries maintains a Q2 Iron company in Spain and a Q2 Lumber company in Ontario to provide raw materials to the Arms and Construction industries. As far as I can tell the government doe not operate companies supplying grain, diamonds or oil, but suppliers in those sectors are almost entirely Canadian dominated.
Where a potential problem exists is in manufactured goods. I can speak with some authority about the Moving Ticket industry, and despite the recent increase in the Import Tax there are still some foreign companies offering the lowest price in the market. This repeatedly happens from a Latvian company called Propeller Air, and on Sunday afternoon there was an offer of 26 tickets at $6.92 from Monaghan Air, an Estonian based company. I don't object to this because the fact is that Monaghan's current offer is in the ball park for offers in the industry and we've seen much lower prices in the past few days from Canadian companies. I don't have any problem with individuals buying from non-Canadian companies. What I have a problem with is with the government buying from non-Canadian companies based exclusively on the lowest price. And yet, as far as I can tell - and remember that I was in Congress for three terms - there is no law, rule order or policy that mandates that when the government purchases something they should give preference to Canadian companies if the price is competitive.
The definition of Canadian has to go beyond the company being based in a Canadian region. Companies may be based in a Canadian region but owned by foreign Organizations. One notable example in the Moving Ticket industry was a company called Sundizno Moving. It was based in Nunavut and on November 18th made an offering of 176 Q1 tickets at $5.85. this price had dropped by 10 a.m. on November 20th to $5.59, by which time the company had 94 tickets left. by 2 p.m. on the same day the remaining 94 tickets had been sold.
And now as they say, The rest of the story. Sundizno Moving had no employees at the time of this sale. It had licenses for Canada and Hungary, and a very quick check found that the company was owned by a Hungarian organization. Sundizno Moving was a left over from the Hungarian occupation of Nunavut, so that the purchasers of those tickets were doing absolutely nothing for the Canadian economy when they bought them. No Canadian labour was employed in manufacturing those tickets; the income tax generated by the people who made those tickets had gone to the Hungarian government not to the Canadian government; because the company was nominally Canadian, no Import Tax was paid to the Canadian government; and if the owners of the Hungarian group were dumb enough to have to pay taxes on their profits when transferring it from the company to the organization it went into the pockets of the Hungarian government. An the most likely people to buy 94 Moving Tickets in a four hour period? The Government of Canada.
What I would like to see proposed in Congress is either or a rule or a piece of legislation which states that when the Government of Canada is purchasing anything on the open market - i.e. from privately owned vendors rather than from government companies - preference be given to Canadian companies owned by Canadian organizations, provided that the difference in price between the goods provided by the lower priced foreign controlled company and the Canadian company is no more than a specified percentage (probably somewhere between 1% and 2.5% - we don't want to get too extreme here) of the price of the lower priced goods. This would not only help stimulate the Canadian economy, but might just keep us from funding an enemy.
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Voted.
An excellent idea, brilliantly articulated with supporting facts.
Voted. I'm sending the link to the PM...
Voted! Good Job Sleddog!
- Wilhelm Gunter
Agreed and voted.
Agreed and voted. Although I have my doubts that it would really work. Whoever the government official is (At any time,) buying from the market probably will not search the company that is the lowest offer to see if they are Canadian or foreign. They will just buy the cheapest because it's just the easier thing to do.
Granted, some will buy Canadian. But there will be those who will not.
As by far the largest purchaser of goods off the Canadian market for both MTs and Weapons using Canadian government funds I usually do take a look at where a company is located before I make such a purchase. Not just the compaany but its organization too.
In regards to your example of the Hungarian MT company I personnally remember it as I was buying MTs at the time they had them on the market. Even though the price was so tempting, I ignored it.
As such though I can not support any motion that ties my hands when I am trying to supply our CAF during a time of need.
Govt buys more black market and foreign goods then you would like to know.
I would support this, if a Congressman brings it up.
I'd also support another raise in the MT import tax if the situation continues, but I'll defer to TaiwanPanda
Sorry fat panda but refer to the greatest black market seller of all time. Buying Canadian is not a priority. Panda's wallet is gonna get fat in govt.
I would be happy to put this forward in Congress and see if it flies or dies ... let's work out some details ... like the % difference in price and I think whether or not Canada has an occupied territory(ies) might be factors ...
Terrific bit of work here. Well done.
SledDog, I am in agreement 100%.
While the CAF and MoI are likely the biggest consumers in Canadian Government, they are not really saving a whole hell of a lot by buying materials and products from companies overseas, or even foreign companies here in our markets. Yes, it would cost more. But I believe the benefits would be returned in spades by increasing demand for Canadian products, supporting Canadian business, and their employees (who coincidentally pay the taxes that funds our purchases).
As Minister of Industries, I do buy a substantial amount of raw materials to fund our production companies. I do not buy any manufactured products (moving tickets, guns, gifts, etc). Only in wartimes of desperation (i.e. no funding, no Canadian market, etc.) have I ever purchased products from foreign companies.
I routinely check on the companies that the MoI purchases from and do my best to ensure these are in fact Canadian based and Canadian owned firms. We are not buying our own iron as well these days, as we are building a strategic reserve of this material. I fully support this proposal, and can happily tell you that it won't change anything one bit with regards to the way we are conducting business today. If this is not proposed soon in Congress, I will do so myself. As Jayson V says, there has to be some limitations; but I think they would be a lot more open ended and based on dramatic war time conditions only.
Citizen B
i support a buy canada initiative. but understand the fear of being left with "no tickets to buy" if all domestic producers happen to be sold out in an emergency. something would have to be included to cover this contingency without neutering the act.
so expect it to sit in congress being discussed for 10 years at least! 😛