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Gavin i agree with u!!!!

Franz Kafka went too far with his last few statments!

what the hell does he think would heppen?

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STFU, and press the fight button !

Please tell me How this is a campaign article. Iw rote one line about the campaign.

getting armed to the teeth, to fight for e Israel

I was simply refocussing everyone on the game, rather than the RL issues. And I pick my gun up to defend this nation just like every other Israeli.

It was meant to maintain the good firendly spirit of gaming in erep... and I make no apologies for it.

Likewise, I do not support the way Israel dealt with the flotilla - it was a big mistake and it has harmed Israel's international standing as a result.

Everything I say comes from a love for Israel and a wish to see here prosper. I MAKE NO APOLOGIES for all that I have said.

Franz Kafka

I understand you want this to remain a game but wether we like it or not real life spills over into erep all the time. The countries in erep are named after RL countries so this is bound to happen.

We can keep good and friendly spirits but that doesnt mean we should thank the Turks for invading us that seems way to extreme in my book Im sorry.

Gavin

Sadly you missed the tinge of sarcasm in my note. But that is fine, it suits your political agenda down to the ground to discredit me.

You also blamed this on eIsrael for not accepting their peace ULTIMATUM. If you really believe the cause of this war was because we refused to accept Turkish Demands then I can never see eye to eye to you.

Gavin

Im not discrediting you your article genuinely pisses me off and I have been considering writing something for days now. Sarcasm doesnt work over the internet and I definitely didnt see any in your article.

Gavin

@Franz Kafka

People like you may have a chance to save eIsrael.
I hope that you will be the president of eIsrael again.

You know what would save eIsrael TURKEY NOT INVADING EVERY OTHER WEEK

good for you Kafka 😉

Well done Kafka!

Gavin, you appear to be demented.

at least the mpps you're paying for are being used.

FK look your new friends are the turks invading us how nice. Now while they applaud you israel will burn and you will continue to defend them.

As far as I can tell, all this proves is that Franz,
1: Doesn't take this game too seriously (which is healthy).
2: Refuses to accept RL spilling over into eRep (a commendable thing)

Those both amount to nothing more than Franz being a great guy.

You're taking the game way too personally Gavin. It happens from time to time to all of us. Just take a step back from it for a day or two and get some perspective. . .because this is just ridiculous.

I agree with Elianna.

Because Im upset hes saying we should respect the people invading us?

And you think what im saying is ridiculous....

You should always respect your enemy. You don't have to *like* your enemy, or *love* your enemy, at all, for any particular reason. But disrespect to your enemy leads to a lot of issues that could result in things that make "less than pleasant" seem like a tremendous understatement. Disrespect leads to dehumanization, which can lead to you losing a lot.

Assuming, of course, you view all of Turkey as 'the enemy' in this regard.

@Gavin: Invading us on a GAME. It is a GAME. I might understand if this were real. But it isn't. I see no reason we can't be friends with eTurkey citizens beyond the workings of this GAME. I see no reason not to be respectful to other players in this GAME. If we were disrespectful to everyone against us, the GAME would cease to be fun.

What you are doing is getting pulled into this game too deeply, and you're mixing in-game issues (the rejections of the eTurkey peace offer)with RL issues (this whole flotilla fiasco).

I'm okay with in-game passion, but attacking your fellow citizens because they are attempting to remind us not to get so personal? Yes, that's ridiculous.

You. have. got. to. chill.

Please, FK is one of the key contributors to Israel of all times.

I agree with FK and Elianna, we shouldnt let RL problems into the game (even if our opponents do), and FK is an eIsraeli patriot.

Eliana stop telling me to chill and saying im getting too much into because im not. I wrote this article because I was upset with Franz Trying to Appease to the turks this is a IN GAME ISSUE. I put as a side note I was also displeased with his depiction of the RL ISSUE with the flotilla.

Clearly none of you have seen or care what Turkey has been writing about us they are fuled with Anti Semitism and Anti Israeli attitudes and theirs no changing that. Thats why they started this war and theirs no denying real life makes a big difference in erepublik.

I have a right to my opinion on mine is that I am angry that Franz Blamed this on the eIsraeli Government and commended turkey for their actions.

Im all For Respect but it could of been done in another way.

And you guys are missing the point Im not mad about him trying to separate RL from Erep that wasnt even the focus of his article Im pissed off about his attitude about thanking turkey for invading us and blaming it on the eIsraeli government.

Stop mixing up the issue

It's obvious you've misunderstood his article Gavin. He commended eTurkey for the delay of the attack, which as he saw it, should help fight the tide of RL emotions from flooding the game completely (sadly it seems he was wrong). And yeah, sure, he was blunt about our rejection of peace.

Beyond that, obviously, his "respect" is given in the name of sportsmanship. It's a good thing. He's actually trying to stem bitter sentiments between our two eNations (heaven forbid).

His comment on the eTurkish FM's article was warranted as well. A compliment for resolving to leave RL out of eRepublic (whether or not it is being carried through).

ALL of what Franz has said was in the name of keeping things fairly civil here in eRep. I can't see why that pisses you off.

I wouldnt of cared so much if it was just some schmo but its our ex president and he had many other options in which to address the situation then one article titled "Respect to Turkey" If anything he brought RL into erep by making a status condemning israels raid on the flotilla.

Like you said none of it did anything we still see waves of antisemetic comments and the attack is clearly related to rl who cares if they waited a day or two that doesnt mean we thank them for it. Why say its our fault the Israel for rejecting their threats an ultimatums. I dont even remember him tkaing part in the discussions on the forums so he should say anything. It was voted and we voted it down unless he now hates democracy too.

Is it so much to ask our ex president be a little stronger towards turkey a nation whos main goal has seem to destroy us.

I have every right to be upset over his article. Im mad over his remarks both RL and in erep.

I spoke to Franz on IRC we had a long debate about this ask anyone who was their I hold no grudge against him and I respect him and his work for Israel.

So it's true... he really said that.
Franz, there's no good way to deal with terrorism. We did the right thing to defend ourselves- would you prefer it if dozens of terrorists would arrive to Gaza, for god knows in what ways they planned to harm us? I don't know what you hoped to achieve, but speaking bad of the IDF will not help Israel, that's for sure. Furthermore, you're harming the name of (good) people that risk their lives just to make sure we will keep ours, and for that, I won't stay silent.
If you truly think there was a better way to do it- stay silent, what's done is done, and the intention was initially good. If people outside of Israel will see we're saying such things, they may think we support/justify our terrorist enemies. Now THAT is a harm to Israel's reputation.
I don't f***ing care about this stupid virtual Israel (done lame at that too I'd say)- I care for real Israel.

I completely agree with Gavin. And I think SayeretMatkal explained it perfectly.
This is absurd. It's like he's trying to side with the stronger side by using the IDF's name as a stepping stone. By all means, this is treason.

Thanks Elianna 🙂

I completely agree with Gavin. And I think SayeretMatkal explained it perfectly.

when you support a teror supporting organization or country in RL because of selfish need then you hurt RL Israel and put it's citizens in danger. SHAME on people who ignore facts and side choose a stand only because it's "cool" and everybody else do it

I LOVE ISRAEL!

I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THIS "FRANZ KAFKA" .
GO WRITE SOME BOOKS KAFKA.

Disappointment

ביחד נשרוד לחוד ניפול וזה הכל.