The real SEES - a must read!
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by SamGibz
This article is to expose what SEES really is. I approached my short investigation with an open mind. I hoped that it really was trying to do the right thing, the wrong way. If its heart was in the right place, I am willing to work with it. I have not had any bad feelings towards any of these people, nor do I now as what you are about to see does not concern me directly. I just observed through a window so to speak, and took a peek to what was going on inside. It does make interesting reading. I have taken out some of the boring bits, Bob joined #SEES-Vuvuzela etc... They are in two parts as I missed events in the middle as I had dinner and then had to do some ironing. Unfortunatly I am unable to past it here so please read https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1VIw-tqAbxBX0V5JOPhBOwbU6lEOp257H2izKP2QsAto&authkey=CJjqoIAM#">here. ENJOY!
So there we have it. They admit to wanting to PTO. We know their targets. We know what Judean Princess thinks of Stagnation. It is up to you to make up your own minds about who these people really are.
If you want the full conversation PM and I will send you a copy.
SamGibz
President of eSouth Africa
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Nice to mix politics and foreign affairs. I can't access that document you linked.
Wow. You want to influence our elections with that? It is garbage. As a president you should not be injecting that drama into our elections. So, SEES socilizes with 2 douchebags? That is not new.
I am not influencing any election, I am just trying to show your government who they deal with.
SEES saves elives.
Michael, please do not look at it that way. We are not trying to influence your elections, we just want the relations between our two countries to remain. When one of the Polish CPs had the national goals to conquer eUSA's key regions, you guys got worried too and started writing articles wondering what the heck was going on. You didnt want a group of allies attack you and we dont want an ally PTOing us. That is why we are doing this, to preserve our country and remain friends.
Although, from the looks of it, Krems may have just been lead on by Amun and JP from the start. If thats the case, then this whole situation would have been one big misunderstanding. We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
This guy is eSA's president? No wonder you're PTO'd 😑
SEES at home, SEES in the world
@seisan I'm saying what you guys are going through is beyond the pale. I'm saying SEES has some bad friends. I'm saying Gagah/Emerick and Krems are not spotless politically. I'm saying your internal problems are caustic and ridiculous which you may or may not be be part of. I'm saying using this on the eve of our presidential elections is petty and unhealthy. Krems according to those logs seems to be friends with idiots but not trying to PTO your nation.
@Jeep. He became our Pres. after RonelI impeached the last one as part of the PTO.
Yes, I have come to the same realization Michael. From what Krems said, he did not know Amun and JP had been causing trouble in eSA so he didn't see anything wrong with sending SEES members to eSA when Amun requested it. If this is true then that means Amun and JP have just been using SEES and this whole thing is one big misunderstanding. I truly do hope this is the case and we can just put this whole thing behind us once its sorted out.
@Jeep, you have a problem with me? How would I be the cause of the PTO? Explain yourself... Also, I was brought in AFTER the impeachment of Stryke Blayde, our former CP.
Come one Sam, lets not try to make the situation worse. We're here to ensure eUSA and eSA remain allies, not bicker with them. :/
I SEES TO.
you forgot the P :/
>so he didn't see anything wrong with sending SEES members to eSA when Amun requested it.
We have never said we would send SEES memebers to eSA. Ever. This article is redicules fear mongering. I understand you're upset someone used our name in an article, but we have never done anything like what you are accusing us of. It was Never my intention to send people to eSA to influence elections. If you can provide proof that it was, or that I have done this in the past please do so. If not kindly stop brining up sensationalist attack articles against me on the eve of my election.
Yeah if any country on eRepublik deserved to be PTO'd its South Africa, again... You seriously all come off as whiny 11 year old girls, good luck getting over yourselves.
I agree with Kremsa. This is redicules fear mongering :as😛
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