Resistance and War.
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by Epic Thoughts
There seems to be a great deal of misinformation floating among the people of eSouth Africa. There are many calls for violence, for war, for eSouth Africa to rise up and reclaim what rightfully belongs to us!
These calls, although they are motivated and well meaning, are ultimately a call for national suicide.
Let's take a simple look at the facts here; eSouth Africa has a population of 661 citizens. Brazil has over 5000, and Indonesia has over 10,000. Most of the cries for war say that we should RW, or Resistance War back all the Occupied Regions. The numbers should speak for themselves.
I will not condone slavery in the disguise of diplomacy. If any of you know me, if you've read my past articles or spoken to me at all, you'll know I'm not some PEACE boot lick. But, war, as it stands now, is not an option. War would only result in the same thing that happened last spring; the removal of eSA from the map. Two regions, with the hope of more in the future, is better than no regions at all. War would undo all the work we've accomplished and, as little as it may be, everything we've gained.
War is not an option, my friends. However, allow me to say in the same breath, that resistance most certainly is.
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Well spoken and so true my Friend.
Good points, ET. Even if eSA does happen to do well on the battlefield, PEACE can and will PTO eSA.
I'm no PEACE bootlicker either. I took eSA to war against them and have been fighting them every day since they took us out by PTO. It didn't even matter that we had 7 powerful allies on our side and that they never defeated us in battle. They'll use their numbers to overwhelm us one way or another.
The young ones dont know what happened in the 2nd eSA war let alone the 1st one. There is a time to fight and a time to sit back to watch and wait. This is a time to watch and wait.
I prefer to refrain from using such terms as 'young' or 'newer'. It only serves to widen a divide, a divide that already has too many champions that are eager to exploit it. Still, there can be no substitute for knowledge and understanding, not even zeal. I encourage everyone who was there to tell other people about the 1st and 2nd eSA wars. I encourage everyone who wasn't there to learn about them.
Oh....Sorry. How should I address them please? I thought that I was more than PC enough. I did not address them as knoobs or such. What would be a more plesant title for these younger eSA.
Where've you been ET? Missed your broody presence! 🙂
Correct.
Resistance is actually futile unless you've got some support to back it up. Good article otherwise.
Don't take it as a critism, Kiwi. Wasn't meant that way.
Ines, a pleasure to see you again. Had one hell of a summer. I'm glad to be back.
That's true, Dragon. Just be sure your support can and will show up to back you up. eSA had the support on two occasions and even that wasn't enough. Even MPPs with USA, Spain, UK, Canada, Croatia, Romania and Poland weren't enough to prevent a PTO. Sure we could stop them in battle and their first PTO attempt, but it wasn't enough to stop the second.
If eSA could get the unwavering support of at least 7 or 8 allies who are totally committed to its cause, I'd be all for another Liberation War. However, history and experience has shown that no country has the ability or will to win and maintain complete eSA liberation.
Glad your back in eSA Epic.
Well spoken! I never thought one could encapsulate the entire meaning and mentality of cowardice in such a condensed form! Superb, a grand artistic achievement!
On a more didactic note, all rational men who support war do so as a result of Indonesia and Brazil's recent defeats at the hands of EDEN/FORTIS. We support a war, yes, but only with the aid of the USA and Spain respectively, both of whom are far larger and more populated than our enemies nations combined. Christ, the USA alone is far larger than both of them! Please, defeatists, cowards, quislings, and pacifists (redundant, I already mentioned cowards) get your heads out of your a****, crawl out from under your desks, stop advocating for this abject expression of cowardice and prepare for the beginning of our glorious struggle.
That's the exact same argument we used before the last Liberation War, but we had more than just USA and Spain. Plus Indo was embroiled in a massive war against Romania and the USA was whole and had not been invaded. You clearly have no idea about what eSA has already done and you don't seem to pay attention to anyone who has already been there and tried what you propose.
No "rational men" support war at this time, only the ignorant do. Those of us who speak with reason, know eR, eSA and its history are ignored by these so-called "rational men" because the truth is not what you want to hear. I declared war on Indo and was the first to fight them, so I'm no coward when it comes to PEACE. Those of you who weren't there and who know nothing of the Indo Wars but still clamour for war are nothing but ignorant blowhards.
USA and Spain are a start, but history has shown us twice that eSA will need far more than that to win a Liberation War. Getting all that support is not impossible, but it is extremely expensive and even when you get it, there is no guarantee that your allies will always be able to help.
^what Cornelious Maximillian O'Brien said
(but less epic and more troll-like)
Not at all surprising.😁 The naiveté and disdain for reason is staggering.
And what do you know about it...or me? Since you clearly have no clue about eSA or myself, eSA was not PTO'd until 3 weeks after I left the presidency thanks to internal divisions in eSA, a simultaneous PTO attempt on Spain that drew off allied support, and because the eUSA was divided and could not unite behind their allies.
Your buddy Cornelius is advocating doing exactly what we did, although he is relying on fewer allies who are actually weaker than they were 6 months ago. Unless he can come up with a better plan, you are just asking for the total elimination of eSA. I can't tell if you guys are that stupid or if you have ulterior motives and are actually trying to have eSA destroyed.
Again, you prove your lack of knowledge and utter ignorance, but no one expects a trolling clown to have anything intelligent to say. Nice try, bro.
Edit: I didn't actually double post there - Exilious stated that I was the worst CP ever but was too much of a coward to leave it up and stand by that statement. He probably realized he was wrong, or more likely, he knows what kind of support I had as a politician in eSA and fears he will lose any support he has by talking crap about a well-liked former eSA president.
Uh..
Why must you people (Cornelious and Exilious) act in such a manner?
You're giving foreigners a bad name. The second-to-last thing we need is a xenophobic SA (the last being a warmongering SA) .
The fact that the US was just attacked play to our advantage, whereas before they were carrying out routine support of an enemy of an enemy. Their situation now is anything but 'routine' and as such they're likely to contribute much more than they previously did, thereby increasing our chances of success. I've read about all of the previous wars in fact I remember reading articles from a wild back but our situation now is enormously different the USA has 20,000 people, over 2 times that of Indonesia, Spain has 12,000 more than 2 times that of Brazil and maybe we could even convince those louts in SOL to aid us, we can win.
I revile that concluding comment, the one about our "ulterior motives" motives, you invective propagandist. As, if somehow anybody besides Indonesia and Brazil stand to gain from our demise. but do you know who has to gain from our occupation? Jizzie McGuire and all the other government lackeys, they benefit from the occupation and the "negotiation" process because they are able to use it as a political tool. They proclaim the success of their negotiations as a credential supplementing their claim at office and afterward they stress the need of the current diplomatic staff and leadership oversight.
Mr. Quisling please, just cease this defeatist propaganda and relish in our victory to be! All citizens should revel in this prospect, should revel in the recrudescence of the South African nation and the vindication of our august honor.
Cornelious; I admire your zeal. But being a firebrand is easy. I've nothing to add, except to invite you to further study the history of what has occurred, and how the game operates. I invite you to better yourself, because, you clearly need to. Once you understand those things, I'm sure you'll make a fine citizen.
So why aren't you in Brazil helping the Spanish overturn the Brazilian government? Oh wait, you're the guy that tells people what to do, not necessarily the one to actually do anything.
Silly me...
This is Siroe btw😃
...the Spanish are attempting to overthrow Brazil?
Epica Thoughts, you and I go at on almost every article jeez. 🙂
Sorry E.T should have been more specific. I was talking to Corn.
Your article I like🙂
And yeah, apparently the Spanish got ONE congressman in Brazil and are planning a slow but sure destabilization of their gov't and Mr. Cornelious is one of the people that keeps talking about how he plans on "sticking it to the man".
Oh right Cornholeious, we should follow you mate, right? Your a pure military leader in eR and have single handed gone and drummed up support of Spain and the USA.
Well in that case folks let drop everything and man the guns becuase Cornholeious will lead us to victory.
Got a better idea. Buss of mate, your a drop kick.
Siroe; That's incredible! Viva la Spain! This is exactly the sort of thing I meant when I voiced my opinion in regards to resistance. We should be supporting this sort of overture.
Cornelious; If you want a friendly rivalry, that's fine. But I don't advocate the way you responded in your first post. That was flagrantly full of disrespect. I see a lot of myself, and the way I thought, in you. With that said, I'm hoping we might move in a more positive direction. Good luck, good sir.
"Jizzie McGuire and all the other government lackeys"
Jizzie hasn't held a governmental position since his presidency, back in.. April?
Way to research your slander.
I'm sorry I hadn't intended to be so morose but the fact still remains, those who oppose war with our captors are cowards.
Corn: Maybe it's time for you to detail how you propose to have us beat Indonesia and Brazil and then get us to keep our reconquered regions? It's easy enough to accuse everyone advocating diplomacy of cowardice. What have you got for us?
I'll tell ya what hes got pretty words and thats about it. I'd like to know why this great leader of warriors is not on the USA on the front lines leading troops to battle against Russia and and the rest of PEACE to finish them off.
Could it be that he's a coward?
THE PEOPLE OF BRAZIL INFORMS:
No Spanish congressists were elected. Tyvm.
Not only have I not been in govt. since April, but I also wasn't part of the negotiation process - I actually opposed most of what was done and broke with the govt. So Corn clearly doesn't no anything about the past. How I am benefitting at all is beyond me since I don't live in eSA (although I am a citizen), have no connection to the govt. or any party, and don't plan on running for any office for at least several months.
I and many others who were actually there and fought 2 wars against PEACE (including the one over a year ago) speak from experience, not cowardice. We want revenge and to take our lands back more than any of the Kaiserlicks or ANA refugees from the eUS who are here to stir up trouble with PEACE, but we understand that it will take time and planning.
What is your plan, Corny? Sounds like it is you who is using this situation for political advantage as you talk big and act like a tough guy with your belligerent rhetoric and slander of longtime eSA citizens and patriots. If you had a good plan that had a chance at working, we'd be right behind you, but instead all you have is empty rhetoric and wild, unsubstantiated insults.