Regions of eRepublik - Is this fair? [FIN/ENG]
Melmis
Finnish version. Scroll down for English.
Tämänkertaisen artikkelin aiheena ovat tavallisuudesta poiketen eMaailman alueet. Pahoittelen suhteellisen pitkää taukoa tämän ja viimeisimmän artikkelini välillä. Tämän listan keräämiseen kului vähän enemmän aikaa kuin alunperin kuvittelin ja kirjotitamisen intokin loppui välillä.
Keräsin eRepublikin wikistä tiedot eMaailman alueista ja niiden alkuperäisistä omistajamaista. Tämän jälkeen hain Wikipediasta kaikkien eRepublikin maiden oikeat pinta-alat. Yritin myös etsiä IRL alueiden määrät, mutta siinä olisi ollut yksinkertaisesti aivan liikaa työtä varsinkin kun asiat eivät aina ole niin yksinkertaisia.
Lopulta pitkän työrupeaman jälkeen sain valmiiksi seuraavanlaisen listan:
Jaoiteltu eRepublikin alueiden mukaan
Klikkaa suuremmaksi.
Jaoiteltu Pinta-ala / alueiden määrän mukaan
Klikkaa suuremmaksi.
Lista on senverran pitkä, että sinne on saattanut livahtaa virhe jos toinenkin. eRepublikin wikikään ei kaikilta sivuilta ollut aivan ajantasainen, joten sekin tuotti hieman ongelmia. Jos virheitä löytyy pyrin korjaamaan ne välittömästi. Älkää siis suuttuko
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Yhteenveto lukujen pohjalta
eRepubkikissa on yhteensä 554 aluetta, ja keskimäärin niitä on 8.27 yhtä maata kohden. Kuten jo aikaisemmin taisin mainita (Tai sitten en maininnut), jaoin jokaisen maan pinta-alan pelinsisäisten alueiden määrällä. Periaatteessahan tämä luku on alueiden keskimääräinen pinta-ala, joten pystyn vertailemaan näiden lukujen suuruuksia maiden välillä.
Tässä minun laskujeni mukaan kärkipäät.
Liian vähän alueita lukujen pohjalta TOP 10
Mutta koska meidän ei tarvitse elää pelkästään lukujen pohjalta, niin esimerkiksi Kiinan voi hyvin mielin tiputtaa tuolta listalta. Kiinallahan on jo 29 alkuperäisaluetta ja se on aivan tarpeeksi.
Liikaa alueita lukujen pohjalta TOP 10
Kuvaa katsottava alhaalta ylöspäin.
En kuitenkaan lähtisi näiltä mailta vähentämään alueita, sillä niillä on niitä jo valmiiksi vähän. Yhden alueen maat kun eivät pysty oikein käyttämään minkäänlaista strategiaa. Tosin Kroatialta tai Slovenialta voisi ehkä yhdistää aluen tai kaksi. Ennemmin kuitenkin tulisi lisätä alueita vaikka Venäjälle, Brasilialle tai Australialle. (Jos halutaan käyttää näitä lukuja.)
Mikään ei ole koskaan reilua kaikkien kannalta
Vaikka näitä lukuja miten pyörittelisi ovat ne aina epäreiluja jotain maata kohtaan. Lähtisinkin ennemmin tasoittamaan alkuperäislaueiden määrrää samansuuruiseksi kaikilla mailla.
Esimerkkinä USA.
Vaikka se sijoittuu laskelmissani vain vähän keskimääräistä suuremmaksi (tarvitsisis lisää alueita?!) lähtisin ottamaan siltä alueita pois. 51 aluetta kun on niin epäreilua muiden maiden kannalta. Esimerkiksi Venäjä on mielestäni melkohyvin jaettu noin suureksi maaksi. Toki alueita voisi olla Venäjän itäosissakin enemmän, mutta on tuo nykyinen jako paljon reilumpi muita maita kohtaan, jos verrataan minkälainen sen pitäisi olla jos se kopioitaisiin suoraan oikeasta elämästä niinkuin USA:n alueet ovat suuriltaosin kopioitu.
Venäjän kartta, 83 aluetta.
Lisää päätelmiä
Kun tarkkailin molempia lukuja, pelinsisäisten alueiden määrää ja pinta-alaa, päädyin seuraavanlaiseen päätelmään:
Kipeimmin lisä-alueita tarvitsisivat
1. Paraguay
2. Pakistan
3. Brasilia
4. Argentiina
Lisäksi hetken pohdittuani päähäni pilkahti idea, jonka mukaan pitäisi asettaa joku maksimi aluemäärä. Esimerkiksi 15 (tai joku muu luku lähellä sitä), jota enemmän ei millään maalla saisi olla alkuperäisiä alueita mistään pinta-aloista tai muista luvuista riippumatta. Tämä olisi reilua pienempiä maita kohtaan. Minimimäärää ei olisi yhtä helppo asettaa, sillä esimerkiksi Singaporea on hankala jakaa enää pienemmiksi alueiksi
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Toivon todella että pidit tästä artikkelista, sillä sen kirjoittamiseen tarvittavien tietojen etsimiseen meni paljon kauemmin kun alunperin luulin. (EDIT: Tajusin juuri ettei minulla olekkaan enää aikaa kirjoittaa, joten tämä oli viimeinen artikkeli ennen tuota taukoa.) Kirjoitan vielä yhden sota-analyysin ennen kun pidän pienen tauon (taas
😁. Olen poissa noin viikon ja suurimpana osana ajasta minulle ei tule olemaan pääsyä internetiin. Tuon tauon jälkeen tulee melko pian toinen samanlainen tauko, mutta sen jälkeen voin taas kirjoittaa aivan normaalisti.
Melmis
MelmiSanomien päätoimittaja / Editor of Melmisanomat
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This article doesn't talk about any wars. This it written about regions of eWorld. Sorry about the long gab between this and my latest article. Finding all the data needed to write this article took so much longer than I expected, and sometimes I just didin't feel like writing.
I collected information about eWorlds regions and their original owned from eRepublik wiki.
After that I searched IRL areas (km²) for every single country in eRepublik from Wikipedia. I also tried to find number of IRL regios to every country, but that would have been just far too much work, because things aren't always simple.
After a lot of searching, I was able to make this list:
Arranger by number of original regions.
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Arranger by area / original regions.
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This list is so long, that there might be some mistakes. Erepublik wiki wasn't up to date on every country page, so I might have made some errors. If any mistake is found, I'll fix it as soon as possible. So don't be mad at me
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Summary by numbers
There are 554 regions in eRepublik. Avarage ammount of regions per country is 8.27. As I might have mentioned before (Or not), I devided countries IRL area (km²) by ammount of eRepubliks original regions regions. This number is avarage area of one region. With these numbers I was able to compare countries.
Highlights of my calculations.
Not enough regions TOP 10
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Fourtunately we don't have to live by numbers, so we can remove China from this list because they already have 29 original regions, wich is far enough.
Too many regions TOP 10
Image must be watched upside down. You know what I mean. Click for larger image.
I wouldn't start remowing regions from these countries, because they already have so few. And countries can't use much strategy, if they only have one region. Well maybe Croatia and Slovenia could lose region or two. I would rather add some regions to Russia, Brazil or Australia. (If we follow the numbers.)
Everything can't be fair for everyone
You can look at these numbers and add or remove regions if you like, but it will always be unfair to someone. So I came up with an idea to make ammount of regions more even for all countries.
Lets take USA as an example.
Even if it is just slightly over avarage by my calculations (It would need more regions ?!), I would delete some regions from them. 51 regions just isn't fair for other countries.
Russia is by my thinking good example how to divide large country to regions and still make it fair for other countries. Yes, there could be few regions in eastern parts of Russia too, but current situation is much better than if Russia would be divided like thay are in real life, like USA has been divided.
Map of Russia, 83 regions.
More conclusions
When I was looking at both, in game region numbers and area (km²), I came to this conclusion
These should be the first ones if more regions are adde
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1. Paraguay
2. Pakistan
3. Brazil
4. Argentina
After a moment of thinking an idea came into my head. What if we would put max original region number for all countries? Lets say 15 (or any number near it). If we just wouldn't care about any of these numbers. This would be fair for smaller countries. Minium number of regions would be much harder to implement. Because for an example Singapore is hard to divide into more regions that one
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I really hope that you enjoyed reading this article, because it too so much longer to find all the details than I expected. (EDIT I just realized that I won't have time to write right now, so this will be the last article before that short break.) I will write one warfare analysis article before I keep short break (again
😁. I'll be away for about one week, and most of the time I won't propably have access to internet. After that break there will be similar break quite soon, but after that I can write again normaly.
Melmis
MelmiSanomien päätoimittaja / Editor of Melmisanomat
Comments
Voted!
Nice article! Very good job, my friend!
The admins aren't very fair to the different countries : (
You were fast! : D
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no, isn't fair
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Vote and sub great artikel!
Just fantastic work. VOTE
What happened to Uruguay? you got that number completely wrong.
Currently Uruguay has only 1 region and it is 176,215 km2 IRL - so average 176,215 km2 per region....
Wow! Great article! V+S. You'll be going places, I'm sure.
-iasov
Where is Bulgaria in tables? No vote,no sub!
Also UK has more than 4 regions - it consists of four countries united under one crown but with many more subregions.
Overall very interesting article though and definately worth looking at.
What should be mentioned though is that many regoins is not necesarily a good thing. If the population isn't there it's just making it harder to fight PTO's (like in Denmark - 5 regions 50 total active players. Hard to prevent people from getting into congress and taking over) On the other hand a country like Russia should defaintely have more regions, being the largest country on the planet.
No country should have more than 40 native regions though as that artificially inflates congress by one more seat per region, resulting in more gold paid out etc.
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing small countries having only 2-3 regions and the largest have perhaps 20 at highest. Would also make the battles for each region more intense I think.
Commenting again to say I'm all for a reduction in eUS regions. Congressional elections become quite a hassle when we're winning. (Of course, right now, that wouldn't be such a problem. Hahaha.)
Where did Bulgary disappear?! I am 100% sure that I added them there! Sorry fixing this proplem atm. And fixing Uruguay too. As I said, it's long list : )
Great work 🙂
Bulgaria is there! Check Number 40 from Arranger by area / original regions and 42 from Arranger by number of original regions.
You were trying to fool me
P.S. Those images are made from 2 pictures so click bottom of the image.
Thank you, voted!
nice article 🙂
+v+s
All problems (found so far : D ) are fixed now.
That first sheet said we only have 50 irl regions. We have more than that irl. We have 50 states and commonwealths, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and several other territories.
Thos IRL regions aren't accurate. They vere too complicated in some countries that I didin't finish them. (Regions, municipality, province etc.) I just didin't delete them before taking those pictures.
On the whole very good; but smaller countries will be more under PTO threat imo. Just my hunch based on seeing how things function over the past 2 years.
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Nalle karkit ei menny tasan.
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Winnie Candies are not distributed evenly
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Where is Turkish version?
nice article, unfortunately admin won't do anything about it
To be honest, the number of regions should not be measured in the size of a country. It's more about the density of its inhabitants. I'm from the Netherlands, which has about 16 million inhabitants. If you compare that to, say, Spain (which has about 50 million, I believe), our citizens are much more tightly packed. This is why I think it can be fair for Russia to have huge regions, while something like the Netherlands have very tiny ones. I'm not saying the number of regions each country currently has originally is fair, but the square kilometres per region isn't a good measurement to go by.
Ofcourse going by real life inhabitants isn't really representative for eRepublik, because it's simply played more in some countries compared to others, but if they would take into account the number of people playing from that country, I think it might get a little be too hard to really expand outside your original borders.
In some cases, like in eUSA and eAustralia, the regions assigned are based on real life borders of states within those countries in real life, and it would be slightly weird to split them up, especially when it's not really necessary.
I do agree there are some countries that have a weird amount of regions. For instance, I don't understand why a state as small as Montenegro has 3 regions in-game.
Ja nyt Melmis sitten tosiaan lomille. Sinustahan saa kohta olla oikeasti huolissaan. Työnarkomaani! 😉
Pirun hienoa työtä.
great article, although i do like the natural advantage of having 50 regions i have to agree it really isnt fair to the other nations.
nice article, add 5 more regions to Macedonia.
vote and sub!
Singapore has too much regions.
Great job, melmis o7
Sullon liikaa vapaa-aikaa... eli jatka samaa rataa, beibe.
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