Nationalism
Ice Killa
Long time ago there didn't exist a distinction between nations, there didn't even exist a distinction between people, they were all equal tending to survive. The shere definition of nationalism came into being in the modern times - with that I mean the amount of hate, cultural traditions and waging wars just due to being part of something. I hope that can somewhat explain why I hate being part of something, being part of something automatically means you have to pick a side for which you will fight for, and that's exactly why we all are unwise in this very given circumstance. Nationalism, correct me if I'm wrong, never brought anything good, it's just a human excuse for getting rid of others with pretending that they aren't as worthy as you or even worse, their stupidity prevails over the wisdom that few possess. It is more or less true that's how nations extinct, their wise individuals flee to other lands or are forgotten in home lands. Anyhow, they know that nationalism never brought anything good, it never gave humanity a good cause to fight for something, it was simply an excuse that the capitalists used to their benefits. The time when money came into contact with the idea of supremacy over a nation, that's the time when nationalism became strong as ever, the time when idea of fools became popular.
And that's why it comes to my attention, the idea is closely related to eRepublik. Some of us were stupid enough to invite other people to this game while promising them a chance to fight against their neighbors - who they dislike in real life. And in that case, we weren't trying to fix the thing that I personally despise, that is nationalism, we made it worse. You had people who were brainwashed with hate to fight against others for no clear reason. When you understand the name of your nation is simply a word given by others and is not relevant, then you understand the whole point - how pointless the idea that is quite popular these days is.
I personally am not trying to change your thoughts regarding this matter, and I'm not even targeting for that in the first place. My mission, goal is to show you the amount of stupidity you must have to believe in this crap called nationalism. The definition of it is somewhat like this, you are in belief how great your country is, there exist no other things except how glorious your nation is. You hate neighbors for their actions they have done hundreds of years ago and you believe they should pay for what they did. Now, please, listen to me, if you believe the media and the people who tell you how distrustful people bordering you are, then you surely lack your own opinion about it. I know it takes some time to become aware of it, if not, just read some theories about how nationalism came into effect. For example, Serbians are praising their loss in the battle of Kosovo - they don't have anything else, but as they say, the fought valiantly. You can probably see the irony here. Nationalism blinds and poisons your thoughts, makes you do things which a normal person wouldn't and you are more or less becoming part of an organization who doesn't even care for you. To them, to the organizations that are presumably nationalistic, you are just a tool for them.
In eRepublik, nationalism is booming as never before. people with radical ideas can get their voice heard and the consequences may be dire and unprecedented to some degree. You have to be aware, by exposing real life issues in this game you are doing just what the creators of this game want you to do and that's what drives this game on. Mutual hate - the main thing that forms modern nationalism - and you start to worry what tomorrow might bring. With your nationalistic ideas you are hating an imaginary nation created only in our minds, borders that in reality do not exist, thoughts which could be spent better, that's all there is. And we still hate, to what end, to what end, my dear readers? I suppose stupidity is just a part of us, we must experience it some time to become wiser.
To sum it up. Nations as well as borders are more or less needless barriers. We shouldn't distinct by cultures or languages since we are all the same. But that still doesn't prevent us from hating each other for pretty much a land which is considered as part of your nation in our wild imagination. We ourselves have no benefits by controlling that land, corporations do and once you understand the big players are behind nationalism, well then, you will understand how fooled you were.
Best regards,
Ice Killa aka Howly
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Erepublik Incorporated, making money off nationalism since 2007
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what a pile of crap this article is, calling other people you don't agree with, as stupid
No, you are not right on many many points that I don't want to elaborate because I don't have the time.
But, you sai😛 "I hate being part of something, being part of something automatically means you have to pick a side". Plain dumb statement on many levels, only pus*ies always want to stay neutral on anything (no offense intended)
You think that nation is an illusion and corporations are behind it? Well you are wrong, people are different, and nations exist. The blood in a nation is different from another, that means that the genes are different, and that means that the actions are somewhat different on a general scale.
Just to refresh your history memory, once there were pheudals, who controlled a portion of land. They were the equivalent of today's corporations. Some were big as a city, some of the pheudals had land almost as much as some countries now do. And then, once upon a time, every nation (in its own time) realized that they don't want to be controlled by them and wanted a country based on their blood so they can run it as they like, that they can decide who will their leaders be and prosper as a nation as much as they could.
Corporations are as a result of capitalism, and not pheudalism.
"nationalism never brought anything good, it never gave humanity a good cause to fight for something". Oh it did, nationalism in the XVIII gave people a pretty darn good reason to fight for - freedom.
"We shouldn't distinct by cultures or languages since we are all the same". No we are not the same, we are homo sapiens, but definitely we are not the same, and you don't need to be a genious to recognize this and realize it. Most of the differences are quite visible.
" Nations as well as borders are more or less needless barriers" You are talking about globalization, a World without borders. Do a research what are the consiquences to globalization at this scale.
There are a looot of other points I can mention . . .
>>Well you are wrong, people are different, and nations exist. The blood in a nation is different from another, that means that the genes are different, and that means that the actions are somewhat different on a general scale.
There is actually far more genetic variation -within- a culture, than between different cultures. The differences you see between cultures are not genetically caused, but simply different norms that have been accepted over time within that culture (which of course change over time).
Nationalism glues a country together and ensures its freedoms. These supra national Trotskyites would have all governed by an unelected beaucratic elite... oooh the EU.
Never read such a load of crap... So you want a New World Order right ? Well relax it's where the IMF and the technocrats under the influence of religious (guess which one...) and financial lobbies are leading us to right now.
As for me, I am not a "World citizen", nor a European citizen as some would like it to be. Over my dead body !!
I am French and I'll always be just that. Nothing else.
Fuck the NWO, Vive la France et Vive la République !
Ahh, the descendant of cardinal
Richellieu and such.
Frankly, i'd be ashamed of being a
citizen of a country that still
performs subterranian nuclear
tests in Tahiti and such. No
offense but Robespierre wasn't
exactly a saint and not many
others for that matter.
Well, this game is based on nationalism. Every one of us wants to change the history, to become the part of history. Nationalism was good in old times, at revolutions. And about the NWO, what our French friend speaks about... Look around and you will find the usual symbols. One what catches your eye: EREPUBLIK / The New World, and a pic of sun.
Speaking of metaphors now? The game will improve when their servers die.
Nice article 🙂
Serbians For example ha ha
why not Croatian for example?
Prejudice Against Serbs I'm sick of it
Serbs again??? Nationalism is loving your country and putting it above the rest, patriotism is just Loving your country so the kosovo example is false since Serbs just want their country better for serbs to live in not harming any independent state.
i just lost all my respect for you
am i weird because i playing this game for fun? : O
nacionalizem je produkt 19. stoletja in to mas res, da se je pojavil sele predkratkim, sam faliu si pa z definicijo cist... ti govoris o sovinizmu, to vse, kar si nastevu, so elementi sovinizma... si pa cepec, da mislis, da je blo folku dalec nazaj vseen za vse: ce bi tako bilo, bi dons ne bi bilo drzav oz. narodov ampak bi blo kr nekej... je pa res, da nam dons, po evropi, vsiljujejo multikulturnost, kot neko idejo, da kri in kultura in vsi indikatorji, ki pasejo zraven, niso pomembni... SEVEDA SO in ce ne bi bili, se do danes narodi ne bi ohranili... v zgodovini so preziveli so mocnejsi(tisti, ki so se borili z orozji in tisti, ki so se borili s pametjo)... dons mas pa sprance(si se sam ke uvrstil), ki mislijo, da je vseen kdo si in kaj si in tako pickasto misljenje ne pelje nikamor! vse so nam vsilili preko medijev in politike(cudno, da ze 200+ let nazaj niso ze tako delal, a ne?) - mas dobre clanke in vse, sam tale je pa v pizdi, ker nimas POJMA o cem pises, pika konc. se par citatov, ki bi ti znal bit vsec 🙂
"All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach."
"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."
"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."
"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."
in se bi lahko nasteval 😛
... pa to, da smo vsi isti... JA VALDA?!?! 😃 primerjej finca pa angleza, norvezana pa albanca, kitajca in crnca, spanca in mongolca, masaja in japonca, belca in mehicana, rusa in zida, ukrajinca in egipcana... prosm te no 🙂
eno je ljubezen do necesa, drugo pa je sovrastvo do necesa in ti to dvoje menjas, ker ne razmislas al kaj jst vem...
Erepublik Incorporated, making money off nationalism since 2007
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Nacionalizam - to je sve što radiš za svoju zemlju da bi joj pomogao na bilo koji način. Osim ako si Srbin; onda se to zove šovinizam.
Druga stvar, zanimljivo je da o nacionalizmu tupi baš Slovenac ... Vrlo zanimljivo. Pošto ste, iz mog ličnog iskustva, nakon Makedonaca najviše nacionalno zaslepljeni upravo vi.
Doduše, neki narodi imaju istoriju i događaje i ljude na koje mogu da budu ponosni i da se ugledaju i na kojima mogu da baziraju osećanje nacionalne pripadnosti ... drugi svoju nacionalnost grade na mržnji i predrasudama i omalovažavanju svih koji žive na Fužinama 😉 Ili čuvanju nečijih konja ... Mislim da smo se razumeli.
Na kraju se naravno postavlja pitanje, ko je tu zapravo nacionalno zaslepljen i ograničen, mi koji se ponosimo "porazom", koji vi koji se celu svoju istoriju ionako samo sklanjate pred svima nikako ne možete da razumete ili vi, kojima samo treba da kažeš da si s juga pa da odma' okrenu glavu od tebe i gledaju te kao da si šugav.
In ne, nisem hotel vsega tega pisati v slovenščini zato ker me itak boste vsi razumeli.
L fu#$in' P from me.
Interesting, but wrong point of view.
Very nice article
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@Vulentije: hmm, pravs celo zgodovino? ... potem poznaz oz. ves, kaj se je v karantaniji dogajalo? res, da smo bli slovenci pod cesarsko oblastjo, vendar smo si sami izbirali svoje, slovenske, vladarje... ljudje so trikrat zapovrstjo obranili poskus vsilitve tujega vodje in si vedno izbrali slovenskega oz. takrat karantanskega kneza... to je samo eno od mnogih takih in podobnih dejanj... res pa je, da nas je pokopala ta pan-slavisticna/jugoslovanska miselnost o bratstvu in edinstvu, katera nas vkljucuje med balkance, kar pa nismo... veliko knjig pise o slovencih in o tem, kako smo razlicni od balkancev in ce bi kdo vsaj kaksno tako knjigo prebrou in bi se mal ozavescou o tem, bi bilo veliko manj takih cepcev, ki mislijo, da smo nekaksni "bratje" z juznimi slovani
Heh, ponosen na PORAZ na KOSOVEM POLJU...
Na poraz ne more noben resen človek resno bit ponosen.
Priznajmo si, VSI, da smo v določeni meri vsi po malem nacionalisti. Srbi imate svoje grobove na Kosovu za sveto Srbsko zemljo, Hrvatom je Sveta Gera sveta, Slovenci pa se razjezimo ob misli na goljufijo z južno mejo in izgubo Knežjega kamna, kraja ustoličevanja naših prvih vladarjev Karantanije.
Nihče ni popoln, vsi imamo svoje okostnjake v omarah in največkrat se naši prepiri vrtijo po melodijah njihovih piščalih
(kost, kamor v burleski najraje brcajo)
Plyxi, mogoče imam narobe, kar tudi priznam, ampak zame je ljubezen do nečesa in sovraštvo do nečesa skoraj podobno kot nacionalizem, mogoče malce v milejši obliki. Na koncu vse izvira iz ene in iste besede. Sicer pa da nismo vsi enaki, seveda smo, vsi smo pripadniki iste človeške vrste, torej homo sapiens, na nas pa je, da se odločimo. kaj bomo postali.
Za moje pojme je tvoj prikaz kot nekakšno poveličevanje, zakaj je nacionalizem dober. V resnici pa je ravno zaradi tega sranja in poleg vere umrlo na milijone ljudi brez potrebe. Še dandanes se ljudje sovražijo zaradi dogodkov, ki so se pripetili pred ogromno časa. Težko rečem, če je to neumnost ali zgolj nezavedanje, kako nesmiselno je sovraštvo do drugih.
Na koncu je sicer vseeno, najboljši primer so Američani, ki originalno sploh niso narod, ampak se te dni praktično vsi smatrajo za pripadnike ZDA. Pa najsibodi to Germani, ki so imigrirali tja ali pa kdo drug. Težko me boš prepričal, da je nacionalizem dober. Glede komentarjev pred tem sem pa sledečega mnenja, ljudje se niso upirali zaradi nacionalizma, ampak zaradi želje po boljšem življenju in to je precejšnja razlika.
>banovani Day 1,563, 03:19
>Interesting, but wrong point of view.
how can a point of view be wrong? it can only be different
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IQ smrznutog oslica -.-
my friend. bad article.
before writting try to read more.
do you know what Chauvinism is?
There are/were evolutionary reasons for nationalism, much the same as racism.
Ok, nationalism is not to be filled with hate to fight against anybody, only some people use nationalism for different pursuits just like they do for any and all ideology. One more thing, Turks were slicing and dicing enemies on the battlefield in 14th century since they were battle hardened by the crusades and the armies were ethnic Turks only. That means you could say Serbs tactically managed to stop an unstoppable force of the time in battle of kosovo. Not so stupid to praise this kind of defeat, if you ask me.
Some peopole lack reading and teaching about Cultural Anthropology.
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Also history.
Assyrians made a lot conribution in the past to relocate nations and to colonize conquered territories.
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As long there are different cultures, there is nationalism. Even a subculture may someday be a new culture or nation.
contribution - sorry my keyboard is stuck*
@howly: potem si pa ti resno preber pojem sovinizma, ker si v ogromni zmoti... ljubezen do svojega != sovraztvo do tujega in javno izkazovanje le tega; vsega pac ne ves in ne pisat bedarij, ki si jih prebral na wikipediji... raj preber kaksne zgodovinske knjige in iz teh knjig osnovi svoje ideje o takih zadevah... grem stavt, da ti se kr mislis, da smo juzni slovani, ker si tako v soli slisu...
Kdo je sploh omenjal Južne Slovane, Wikipedijo itd.?
Bravo!
I am putting a sum of article as part of my description.
whit other words "stole" it hehe 😉
jst, ker blodis in blebetas kot, da ves, kaj je nacionalizem in da je to napacna stvar... prvo kot prvo, ne poznas svoje lastne zgodovine in potem se spravs govort o nacionalizmu? ce nisi ti ponosn na svojo zemljo, narod, kri, kulturo... potem se ne pomen, da lahko o tem govoris, kot nek expert, kaj prinese in kaj ne... to, o cemer ti govoris, je sovinizem in velikokrat, ce ne skor vedno, se rasizem in patriotizem in domoljubje in vse, kar je povezano z ljubeznijo do svojega, zamenja za ta sovinizem... da ti bo jasno: ti nakladas dejstva sovinizma, podtikas jih pa nacionalizmu... capiché?
IQ smrznutog oslica -.-
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Ustavite Zemljo, rad bi izstopil 😛