An Anti-Imperialist League?
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If anyone else thinks joining the Eden alliance is a bad idea, or has any thoughts at all on the topic, please post or PM.
If there's enough support for such an Anti-Imperialist Org., I'll start it. I don't have a statement of principles, yet. (Nor any clear idea what to do with it, except perhaps to offer support to candidates of any party who will sign on to the group's message. But the basic, short and one-sided notion is: what the hell is the eUS doing fighting on so many fronts? Have we done enough to build up the homeland in the interregnum between the Liberation and the start of foreign adventurism? Who left the cake out in the rain?
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Well bro, I gotta say that EDEN has bailed out both Canada and the USA more times than I can count. There are regions in Asia which are currently occupied by our enemies. Those enemies really ought to be relieved of their occupacatorial mandate (hehehe I made up a word there).
And I, for one, and am to see this happen.
Nub.
We are fighting imperialism. We are fighting the ones who take AND HOLD regions against their original owners' will. Who do you think are the ones that are fighting tooth and nail to keep us out of Asia? It's surely not the Japanese... not to this degree.
Sorry this world only moves one battle at a time. We already joined the anti-imperialist league. What you want is the pacifists league, that is four doors down on your right.
how many times did eUS leave EDEN without help...
There's nothing wrong with imperialism
You may or may not follow Ire or eIre but anti-imperialism is (one of) our guiding principle(s). I can see nothing but support on this side of the atlantic for such an Org/BLOC.
Especially since Saoirse is rising as a party and touts having a strong and well funded military amongst other things and helping block imperialism around the globe.
Should look into the party, they have a video and everything.
"We Are The Good Guys"
And that's when I stopped paying attention.
System, obviously I'm not a pacifist. (And thank you for posting your opinion.) I simply have begun to doubt the efficacy of continous and far-flung fighting by the eUS. I have problems with our domestic policy to be sure. But my worry is that, what with all the hooting for blood and revenge, we're going down a path that will cause us to lose our basic principle: We Are The Good Guys. We Don't Invade Other Countries for Fun.
Anyone desirous of continuous war can go play World of Warcraft: It's 2 doors down on the left.
Hari, you almost made it to end of that paragraph! Proud of you, General.
We aren't invading for the lulz. We're trying to get to Asia to assist China (who has requested our aide in doing so) get its regions back from Indonesia, Iran and Hungary. This is not to gain territory or for lulz or anything of that sort. This is to aide an ally.
"We Don't Invade Other Countries for Fun."
This is a game, it's supposed to be fun, and invading countries is fun. Furthermore, it's no secret that the economies in this game are supported by continuous warfare. You may want to find another game if you don't like it.
And posting RL pictures of the effects of war is not going to help your case. Raising and lowering a wall made up of 0's and 1's does not equate to the RL tragedy that is war. It was played out long ago and that crap is getting old.
Half of Asia is under occupation of diferent nations. Mainly PEACE nations. The theather there is just starting. Its hardly an imperialism. If however happens the same what PEACE did...holding of freed regions. Then we can talk about Imperialism.
Japan gave teritory for assault on USA to begin. So did MEXICO and UK,...its equally fair they get trashed for it a bit.
Why don't you attack Spain if you are anti-imperialist? Or your imperialism is acceptable?
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Here's the deal-io:
This isn't about Japan.
Hungary and Iran are holding 2 Chinese high iron regions.
We're trying to move in and remove them.
We have to step through Japan to get there.
No high iron would leave Hungary high and dry, and make Iran even more useless.
This eliminates a big threat in Eastern Europe and Asia in one fell swoop.
Zabalint
Obvious Ad-hominem attack.
First, if given a lot of imperial nations, I would rather our countries dismantle those who are a threat to us first and those who are not second.
Next, I'm sure that we are negotiating with eSpain but you don't attack allies; it will have to be enough that we did not support it.
I have to agree with system0101 on this one.
Relax dude. We are fighting imperialism. We're trying to stop PHOENIX's imperialism. Also, you need to realize that this is just a game. Enjoy it for what it is. If you're not gonna strap up and help us liberate Asia, then be quiet and move out of the way. PHOENIX must fall.
>I have to agree with system0101 on this one.x2
You are a sunshine patriot, indeed. Unsubbed.
I particularly enjoy how the RL arguments for immoral wars carry seamlessly into eRep. This has so many more dimensions than being a simple war game.
Who REALLY believes that we are strong-arming our way through Japan (which has refused to help PEACE dominate China) in order to help China?
I guarantee you we will try to hold on to regions there. Wait and see.
And Jiosen: If its "just a game", why should he be quiet? What noble purpose is he obstructing? You can't have it both ways...
Unsubbed. Obviously you have no understanding of game mechanics or eGeopolitics. Put your head in the sand, dude. You don't care what is going on in eChina. That's oppression.
Unsubbed, unfriended. You should learn the history of what we've been through in the eUSA before writing tripe like this.
Parker blah-blah: First of all, tripe is delicious when you cook it just right. Second, I think it's cute that you have no idea how much I've spent and how hard I've fought for this country. Take care.
See the first two installments of my newspaper.
Sorry, that was my org account. See the first two installments of MY newspaper.
NO
your history and patriotism-- fine, whatever.. I totally disagree with your opinion in today's article. you're flat out wrong.
here's what the true patriots are enjoying today:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/before-the-smoke-had-cleared-at-kyushu-1077206/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/befo[..]/1/20
Army: oh, come on. I'm wrong that we lost? (Through no fault of the average soldier.) I'm wrong to consider another foreign policy? I was rightly criticized for posting depressing photos of soldiers. I accept that, and won't do it again. But that piece you link to is just doofy. If it was a level 12 posting that, fine. But, it's not. And that's scary.
@Parker: Seriously, unfriended? I can understand unsubbing if you don't like his paper, but unfriending?
Look, I don't agree with jfbranson either, but everyone should look at his argument because he brings up some valid points. Furthermore, I do agree with him that tripe can be downright tasty. The point I'm making is this: It's a game, so don't get bent out of shape over it.
i didnt agree with joining eden and spoke up, but after we joined i got behind it. because we can debate until the decision is made and then come together. my opinion is that imperilism is taking territory and holding it to loot the resources, so that would make anti imperilism the freeing of oppressed regions.
I reject the neutrality claim of the japs. They let peace into the eUS which in turn allowed hungary into china. We are trying to undo that damage. The equitable and fair thing to prove they were not playing favorites, would have been to retreat the battle at the beginning. Instead they fought us, and didn't fight peace. They might say they were threatened by peace and they had to do it. By that logic, they rewarded bad behavior and punished good behavior(us negioated for 3 months). So on two separate occasions, they helped peace/phoenix continue to oppress China/India.
So war is good, imperilism is bad, and the US hasnt imperilised Japan even if we had won. we would have been imperilist if we had kept it for profit. When we take and keep eUK, it will not be imperilism either, because that would be punishment for their many, many transgressions.
I think your views are wrong, but also think you can discuss them. I didn't have a problem with people not fighting and sitting this one out. Where I draw the line is moving to Japan to fight against eUS, as advocated by the socialist freedom party, how was the sushi zanmor?
dude, fail.
jfb, if you really did know anything about what you are talking about, then you would realize that the eUS is not imperalizing Japan and thusly, this entire article is mute
Dr. Tango: Indeed we didn't 'imperialize" Japan. As hard as I and most other loyal e-Americans fought, the whole "Imperialism" thing didn't work out. But thanks for reminding us. 🙂