[SWP] Response to IF Letter
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I felt there are some unfair accusations being levelled at the SWP, mainly from the articles from Scrachit and Brood, which are likely to reach the top 5 because of the large amount of IF members. This is just in response, there is no mud slinging at IF, and I may remind you that actually, all the stuff is aimed at me. I might be the unofficial leader, but I hold no real position of authority within the party. Please read this, which is an official response.
I think you'll find that most new citizens join the biggest party simply because it's the biggest. I've never said anything about the IF not having a good president. If you can produce a good candidate then fine, we will back you. I remember that we backed you in the last elections. And oh yeah, you only got in congress because of the bug. Why did none of your party, bar a few, produce manifestos? And just because we are at war, a war that doesn't seem to be happening right this minute, doesn't mean that we should agree on every little thing. And I'm not saying you purposely took it upon yourselves to turn us into a one party country, but if you look, every time someone else has an idea it gets shouted down. If Indo attack, then the ordinary citizens will want to fight. How can they fight, is they have no wellness?
And then, Brood posts and article complaining about how we are behaving. I never said anything about our president not being a good president, I hadn't really noticed his absence to be honest. However, I feel that if he can't dedicate the time required, then he should resign. Also in response to your comment about not suggesting ideas to the Indian Wellness Plan, then actually have posted on the Indian wellness plan thread, and I have spoken by PM to the MoIA. How is that not actually getting involved and trying to help run it? And what I meant by a one state party, when I was talking about how India was controlled politically by IF, was not that it was a dictatorship, but that there was no real opposition, everyone was joining India First and agreeing with what was said, no one was saying, hang on, it could be done better like this, or this and everyone was going along with it.
We are offering a change, to all those who wish to have their voices heard. The workers, the ordinary people, the ones that make us great, not just our leaders. And I agree that we should unite behind to stop the Indonesian takeover, but I don't think a coalition can really be formed by parties with opposing views.
Thank you for reading,
IndieKid, VP of the Social Worker's Party
Comments
Why are both sides doing this.
Shut up.
You all (IF and SWP) are making a big deal about trivial matters.
If you have problems with ideas, state them, but do not attack political parties or we will end up with a failed political system. (That goes for everyone).
I should also note that while I am part of the IF, that's only because I have no idea what any other parties stand for and you have all EPIC FAILED at saying "IF Stands for yadda yadda yadda" "SWP stands for yadda yadda yadda" and "DL stands for yadda yadda yadda".
PS. CHENOVSKY and AJAY JERIC need votes!
I was just responding. It isn't exactly like I was flaming. I was just responding, because they were portraying the SWP in a bad way that wasn't fair.
agreed with flem. this is petty we have to many problems with other country s to be fighting about these things in our own ranks
Just noticed one thing you call yourself the Vice PP of the SWP that is just your say though as no-one technically elected you?
Do you want to hold a vote? 😃 I'm sure someone said I could be it...
Indie our articles were clearly written against the whole of SWP and not only you (ok some guys like blazed can be left out) and hoth of your members blamed our President who has done a lot for our country.
Oh and I think you missed the point of my article. I clearly stated that the article was aimed at telling SWP to stop fighting against other Indian parties and to fight the common enemy. Also it could be that our party is growing because when a new person joins our members our the first to get in touch with them and tell them the basic things they need to know and so on. Check our new party members and you will find only IF members in their friends list as we get in touch with them first and encourage them to keep playing and we teach them the basic stuff they need to do.
Right ok. It id easy to understand how you manage to do that, with quite a lot of members. I never blamed the President, I think that was Hoth. And it doesn't look like the Indo's are exactly our biggest threat now does it?
"It id easy to understand how you manage to do that, with quite a lot of members."
Oh come one Indie! You can't blame us for being the biggest party! We try to be active for the community of India and if you guys don't get very much new members that's not our fault.
And also, with my article I'm not, I repeat I am not! Blaming anyone in specific or any party. I'm blaming everyone who was #1 Talking shit about Dionysus and #2 Started to blame IF for things we didn't do. See, you can't do everything, things take time and as we are still building up our country a lot of things still need to be done. Yes we can come up with 20 plans, but we can't work them out all at once.
The first bit wasn't a jibe, I didn't mean it like that, just an observation sorry. and you weren't aiming it at us?
'What I understand from everything I read, is the fact that SWP members (the active people, which we can consider the leaders of the party) blame IF and Dionysus for things going on right now.'
Sorry? And I never said anything about the president, not once. And show me where I have blamed IF for something, thank you. I don't want to start an argument, just pointing out facts.
"but if you look, every time someone else has an idea it gets shouted down."
Source: Srachit article.
Well this seems like blaming IF if you ask me. And to make my opinion about this, I've told both IF and SWP members my opinion about their plan and on both sides I have seen plans which I dissagreed with and let that know.
Next to that, I'm asking you if you can read Indie, here's what I'm saying: "And also, with my article I'm not, I repeat I am not! Blaming anyone in specific or any party."
Got this from my last post here.
So can we please just stop this!
any party? you said that SWP members were blaming people!
Yes, I said they were blaming people, that's true. But I don't say I only blame SWP..
I know, it's just in your above post, you said you weren't blaming anyone
Well said Indie and you are right, SWP cannot form a coalition with IF because unfortunately IF struggle to understand how anyone can have a different view to theirs!
This should really stop. But it seems like this great nation will be consumed by another threat.
Party bickering..
Don't you guys see that IF tries to make the best out of India and all the crap you come up WILL NOT HELP INDIA.
Ffs..
Oh and Hoth, you guys don't want India First to become a 'one party country'. Well with saying that you guys can't form a coalition with us your pretty much leading us that way. We want to work together but if you don't want to we can't help that.
That is hoth's personal opinion, and mine. WE will be discussing it on our forums