[UK] Nothern Ireland, Who deserves it?
Day 830, 08:04
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*note: all trolling and “shadow is a butt” WILL be reported. I am writing this article to open a debate regarding the Northern-Ireland situation. I know some of you immature kids don’t understand the word “debate” so I ask those ppl to plz refer from posting in the comments of this article. Please, let's deal with this as full grown adults
Dear readers,
Through my time as president in eUK, minister in eUK and later very often as mi6-director in eUK, I have dealt with a countless number of cases and people who wanted independence for certain regions in eUK (be it NI or Scotland) and every time I laughed with those ppl. I lauged because they didn’t understood the game mechanics and because they where plain retards. I was one of those ppl, who, like many citizens in eUK at this moment, believe that original regions should be kept and that NI belonged rightfully to eUK. NI was appointed by the admins as a region of eUK and should therefore keep being part of eUK. Period. No room for discussion.
To a certain extend I still believe that.
I have however changed slightly in opinion in the last weeks.
I’ve been hanging around on the eIrish forums lately (a very friendly and mature community, It’s certainly worth visiting their forum) and things on that forum and on their IRC have made me change my mind about my initial thoughts of keeping original regions to their respective original countries.
Back in eUK, NI was “just a region” like any other. They had their little fortress region in there (which is now wiped out and moved to London), but that was about all the region ever meant to eUK. It never was of any importance and eUK never really cared one rats ass for the region other than to have it. Like a kid having a toy it doesn’t like, but keeping it so that others wouldn’t get it.
Then a few weeks ago Norway swapped the region with Ireland and what I saw then is what made me change my mind. The Irish really cared for this region like no other country I’ve seen before.
Everyone one the Irish IRC and forums started a little party in the honor of the region coming back to them. They immediately started opening several discussion for placing a hospital there, started topics for a name chance of Ireland to “United Irish Republic”, they started contacting the citizens of NI and wanted to open a referendum for those citizens, they wanted to see how they could improve the economy of the region,…. And so on. It was actually (without sounding gay) kinda cute to see all this effort and joy being put in this new region.
I was surprised to see all this activity coming from a small, sleepy, community like e-Ireland. This activity also manifested in their defence in keeping the regions. They mass mobilized the country to move to NI, company owners upped their wages so that foreign fighters could get a better wage when they came to Ireland to help out, they send “thank you” notes to tons of soldiers from all over eWorld who came to their help,…
Never before have I seen a small country put so much effort in a worthless region and it was a nice thing to see.
I am still torn between my old principles that eUK should be given the region back because it’s their right and because they are entitled to it, or that eIreland should keep it because they actually care for it.
Who is entitled to Northern Ireland? It’s a tricky question and I honestly can’t give a clear answer to it. Both deserve it imo, eUK because of game mechanics, eIreland for the care they put in it. My opinion? At this moment, eIreland deserves it more. Maybe later it should be given back to eUK, but at this point, the Irish really deserve it.
Discuss
Greetz
shadow
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Dear readers,
Through my time as president in eUK, minister in eUK and later very often as mi6-director in eUK, I have dealt with a countless number of cases and people who wanted independence for certain regions in eUK (be it NI or Scotland) and every time I laughed with those ppl. I lauged because they didn’t understood the game mechanics and because they where plain retards. I was one of those ppl, who, like many citizens in eUK at this moment, believe that original regions should be kept and that NI belonged rightfully to eUK. NI was appointed by the admins as a region of eUK and should therefore keep being part of eUK. Period. No room for discussion.
To a certain extend I still believe that.
I have however changed slightly in opinion in the last weeks.
I’ve been hanging around on the eIrish forums lately (a very friendly and mature community, It’s certainly worth visiting their forum) and things on that forum and on their IRC have made me change my mind about my initial thoughts of keeping original regions to their respective original countries.
Back in eUK, NI was “just a region” like any other. They had their little fortress region in there (which is now wiped out and moved to London), but that was about all the region ever meant to eUK. It never was of any importance and eUK never really cared one rats ass for the region other than to have it. Like a kid having a toy it doesn’t like, but keeping it so that others wouldn’t get it.
Then a few weeks ago Norway swapped the region with Ireland and what I saw then is what made me change my mind. The Irish really cared for this region like no other country I’ve seen before.
Everyone one the Irish IRC and forums started a little party in the honor of the region coming back to them. They immediately started opening several discussion for placing a hospital there, started topics for a name chance of Ireland to “United Irish Republic”, they started contacting the citizens of NI and wanted to open a referendum for those citizens, they wanted to see how they could improve the economy of the region,…. And so on. It was actually (without sounding gay) kinda cute to see all this effort and joy being put in this new region.
I was surprised to see all this activity coming from a small, sleepy, community like e-Ireland. This activity also manifested in their defence in keeping the regions. They mass mobilized the country to move to NI, company owners upped their wages so that foreign fighters could get a better wage when they came to Ireland to help out, they send “thank you” notes to tons of soldiers from all over eWorld who came to their help,…
Never before have I seen a small country put so much effort in a worthless region and it was a nice thing to see.
I am still torn between my old principles that eUK should be given the region back because it’s their right and because they are entitled to it, or that eIreland should keep it because they actually care for it.
Who is entitled to Northern Ireland? It’s a tricky question and I honestly can’t give a clear answer to it. Both deserve it imo, eUK because of game mechanics, eIreland for the care they put in it. My opinion? At this moment, eIreland deserves it more. Maybe later it should be given back to eUK, but at this point, the Irish really deserve it.
Discuss
Greetz
shadow
PS: don't forget to sub and vote
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In my humble opinion, Northern Ireland has Ireland on it.
Ireland
There is no "Northern Ireland situation". NI is a part of the eUK, and nobody is in the position of being able to take from them, or has any intention of attempting to do so. As such, no debate is needed.
It is an original eUK region. End of.
Real life issues don't even come into it because if they do, it belongs to the UK.
Northern Ireland WANTED to be APART of the UK
Case bloody settled.
In game terms, I don't see why it matters.
It's an original region of eUK
>Northern Ireland WANTED to be APART of the UK
I think you may have made a grevious spelling mistake...
This is the NEW WORLD. eNI has always been sovereign eUK territory, so it is part of eUK.
>I am still torn between my old principles that eUK should be given >the region back ... or that eIreland should keep it.
I think you'll find that the situation on the ground has moved on.
@ malta: I agree. But for eUK this is just another region. Nothing of interest and with no real purposes other then adding a extra line of regions to the society page.
For ireland this is a big thing. They actually appreciate this and put so much effort in this it's really touching.
CB Fry: I am well aware that eUK RW'd NI. This article is merely a reflection of myself and a opportunity to open a debate
Dear people of Britain,
Indeed to many eIrish NI means the world. The vast majority of us truly have no ill will toward you, and the minority that do probably only feel it due to this one region. Perhaps the majority of the small population eLiving in NI do wish to be part of the UK. But ofc the citizens born in eNI that wish to be Irish applied for citizenship down here. There are more of them than you might assume.
I tend to lean toward game mechanics myself like many of you. I cannot deny that NI is idd a region originally belonging to the UK in erep.
In the RL it is difficult for the Irish to think this way. Not so very long ago all of Ireland was a British territory. Turn the clock far enough back and none of Ireland was a British territory. It is true that a majority of Northerners feel that they are British. For those that do not, they feel 'colonized'. In this light you may see how this region is a sticky subject in RL.
But ofc this is not the real world.
If you are one of the many that follow game mechanics and so feel NI is the rightful property of the UK, I ask you to remember that the next time you order, or are ordered into, an offensive battle in erep. Because if you feel this original territory belongs to you, but are willing to take another's regions from them, then perhaps shadow is correct and you really are just hording unloved toys.
Ireland can fight us for it if they want it 😛
Belgium, who deserves it?
Not the US, via 'Free Belgium'
NI is sovereign territory of the eUK.
If the Irish are upset about us taking back one of our provinces then they shouldn't have taken it in the first place.
any Irish moaning is akin to a thief moaning about being arrested.
i think that it should be given to its original owner,Ireland.You have no profits from that region and not a special bond wih it.On the other hand for the Irish it is very important.
I agree with daniecox!
eNI is eUK. RL NI is UK. Citizens of eNI want to remain part of the eUK. RL citizens of NI want to remain part of the UK.
Debate unnecessary.
Ireland can take it if they want to dare and try
it's ours
/debate
What GLaDOS said.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/brothers-in-arms-220694/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/br[..]94/1
SUB, please! 🙂
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nice artical
but did you really exspect to change the minds of these brittish traitors?
they dont give a shit what ireland wants there to selfish to care about anyone but themselves i think they proved that when they betrayed phoenix
Northern Ireland was stolen by the UK. End of story.
Ireland can take it if they want to dare and try
it's ours....
Gla😛 The voice of Penix
Jeez, I fail to see issue here. I could give a great big argument as to why NI is both eUk's and UK's, but I'm just going to sum it up with this:
Nationalism bad
NI wants to stay UK
NI being British has 0 effect on anyone's life
Mostly just "Bllargh! Catholics!"/"Bllargh! Protestants!" nerdrage
According to Shadow logic, I would be so happy if I had all of eUSA's regions, so would you give them to us plx?
You are such a butt.
Also, You realise that Ireland is disgustingly nationalist both RL and in game?
You can;t take anything they say seriously when every other word is republic.
If the Irish really want it, they can come and get it. That's how this game works >.<