[UK - CP] Statement on Northern Ireland
10 Downing Street
Statement on Northern Ireland
There have been two articles recently posted which make mention of the UK's postion in regards to Northern Ireland and our training wars.
[CP] War Update by Irish Country President Warbhoy
Official statement regarding Warbhoy's false claims by President of eMacedonia goLdeNNN II
From a UK's perspective
Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania have been wonderful training war partners, perfectly respectful of the UK's wishes. It is my intention for the UK to long continue these training wars as in an eWorld full of training wars and where holding training wars the dominant strategy, the UK is in a great situation with training wars.
I'd also like to take this moment to thank the various officials from Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania I've dealt with over the months and the fighters of these nations for being great training war partners.
The tricky bit, Northern Ireland
In an ideal world, this region alongside our production regions of Scotland, North East of England and Yorkshire & Humberside makes up our quartet of "Congressional regions" (minimal 4 regions to have a full Congress). This has been our agreed position for months.
However, Ireland has built their country in the words of Warbhoy on "republicanism and it kept many players motivated to fight and have something to log in for. United Ireland was, is and will always stay our main goal."
As a result, the UK often faces a Natural Enemy Law Proposal from Ireland. I must admit I grow tired on constantly involving allies into battles for Northern Ireland. As I want to get the UK involved in matters beyond the British Isles via supporting our allies in their battles.
However, despite the troubles over Northern Ireland, I remain keen to have a cordial and friendly relationship with Ireland as one of our closest neighbours. So constant warring over Northern Ireland does not appeal.
The options
Continue to improve UK/Irish relationship to a point where Ireland stop setting the United Kingdom as a Natural Enemy, this has been attempted a few times however to no great success. In all honesty, as well, UK / Irish relations are pretty good. Our officials have always got time to listen and discuss matters with each other in a friendly manner despite being on "opposite sides". As discussed above it's just all about Northern Ireland for them.
Secure our border in Northern Ireland with a TW preferably Lithuania or Iran. This will offer added protection to the UK from Ireland in the terms of Northern Ireland especially in agreement with our exsisting training war partners. We could build into our training war agreement with any Northern Ireland training war partner that Northern Ireland cannot be used to attack Ireland.
I've been asked about training wars by allies in the UK often and because of our perfect training war situation in England, I've often had to turn down anymore training wars however Northern Ireland could give us an additional option. The UK can just about make do without Northern Ireland, it does mainly offer a safety net for having a complete Congressional representation as rotational TWs elsewhere almost always mean there 2 or 3 UK regions not occupied.
Or the UK agrees to a training war with Ireland which cedes Northern Ireland, this will settle our border and improve UK / Ireland relationships thus allowing us all to focus on our training wars in England and other matters without speaking about Northern Ireland every couple of weeks. The UK can just about make do without Northern Ireland, it does mainly offer a safety net for having a complete Congressional representation as rotational TWs elsewhere almost always mean there 2 or 3 UK regions not occupied.
UK's wishes
I'd say from speaking with those in the UK, the majority wanted Northern Ireland to remain free and part of the UK. So this would be our chosen position.
However, if this cannot be the case for various reasons where others feel the need to get involved
I'd prefer to see the UK begin a ping-pong training war with Lithuania holding Northern Ireland and the UK region Scotland. As discussed above, this would be for the protection of the UK and with agreement from our exsisting training war partners. I'd also like to get Irish blessing for this arrangement if possible as it would put another country on thier border.
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Finally, if it's agreeable with our allies and the UK's Congress a TW with Ireland holding Northern Ireland is an option I would consider however would prefer a ping pong training war between our natural border as they determination doesn't come into play.
Close
Over the past few weeks, numerous allies have been ready to support the UK in battles with Ireland for Northern Ireland and at times when we have battled Ireland for Northern Ireland, we've received some great support, so I thank all fighters and officials who've been involved.
I take this as a strong indication, there are many in the world are with the UK in us having our region in our control and the final say on how we use Northern Ireland.
This has now escalated with Macedonia's more direct involvement (although I appreciate the situation is more complex, the UK being just a small part of a bigger disagreement between Macedonia and Ireland). I would like thank Macedonia for their involvement as it's brought worldwide attention. The UK will support Macedonia in upcoming battles.
There has been a lot spoken about smaller communities having a say so I'd like to ask the international community to let the UK decide Northern Ireland's fate as it is our region. In addition to who we hold training wars within all our regions.
I've outlined the options open to the UK and I think at this moment a good main goal would be a settle the British Isles with Irish and British regions free or occupied as the original owners would like for training war purposes. For absolute clarity I would not like to see Macedonia "removed from the UK", the UK wants them here.
I am happy to discuss the option above with anyone or hear alternative solutions. I have consulted with some allies and the UK's Congress already for guidance and to gather opinions. I certainly remain open to discussing all options with both Macedonia and Ireland.
Thanks for reading
Huey George
Country President of the United Kingdom
Comments
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Northern Ireland is an eUK region which eIreland has ALWAYS wanted, and attempted to take at any opportunity. Unless the two countries are allied then you can assume they will attack whenever they can.
Now that eUK is utterly helpless on its own, you have to rely on allies to deter them. At the moment the eIrish are making a lot of noise because they haven’t been humbled for a long time. Not so long ago eUK had allies who would have stepped in without hesitation and invaded Ireland to help, what has changed?
In fact in real battles both UK and Ireland are helpless, the difference is that our allies were here for us, this is the reason why Ireland wasn't "humbled" unlike UK.
Ireland > UK at the moment, that’s a difference UK has to acknowledge, no idea why you’d try to disagree.
That's true, all I say is taking into account who occupied them in the last two years I don't think Ireland is UK's biggest problem in general.
Colombia - UK removed Colombia on its own. Serbia instead of helping swithced MPP from UK to Colombia for the time of the occupation, Romania even fought for Colombia.
USA - removed by Croatia (!) after a year.
Croatia, Greece, Chile - removed by Romania but I am not sure if they cared about UK or only about the TW regions.
In contrast Irelan😛
Peru - removed by Croatia after half year (in weeks after the government requested help)
USA - removed by Croatia in weeks.
Bulgaria - removed by Turkey in weeks.
This can play a part in why Ireland > UK now.
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I don't want to play the small country card, what we did to UK was agression but it's a fact both countries are exposed to the game of the big countries, and the UK was let in miserable situation for a very long time. So allies suddenly show up to save UK from Ireland (presumably because of personal problems with Warbhoy and/or Slua) is ridiculous. This conflict is obviously more likely to be solved through negotiations than previous ones when the occupiers didn't even had to answer to UK.
Which brings us right back again to my original question: "what has changed?".
Probably nothing. The UK can ask smaller things from its TW partners, and if they ask Lithuania or Iran to come of course noone will refuse a TW opportunity. This doesn't mean they would help if UK was occupied by difficult countries. Macedonia's issue with Ireland is more about personal conflicts than about UK.
I disagree with most of what you just said.
I can be wrong of course, but as I see the big countries want only TWs, everything else is just trash talk and hypocrisy. I have seen a lot of threats recently, Bulgaria will delete and embargo Hungary to revenge Finland (why they let Finland to be deleted in the first place?), Serbia will delete Hungary, Bulgaria will delete Ireland. Nothing came true because noone wants to fight exhausting wars instead of TWs. I don't see why Macedonia's threats would be any different.
Thanks for explaining who the real bully and aggressor is.
Also you can mention the part where they are threatening with Croatia attacking and clearing everyone in UK
Finally, if it's agreeable with our allies and the UK's Congress a TW with Ireland holding Northern Ireland is an option I would consider however would prefer a ping pong training war between our natural border as they determination doesn't come into play.
The eUK should'nt give up Northern Ireland ever it is ours.
Northern Ireland is British soil.
We won't surrender to the Paddy's terrorists threats.
"There has been a lot spoken about smaller communities having a say so I'd like to ask the international community to let the UK decide Northern Ireland's fate as it is our region."
this, right here says it all.
I'm on the verge of writing my own article on the situation, because I can't stand stuff like these, and this was strong enough to capture my attention from my peaceful 2-clicking mode.
All in all, I currently see eIreland as a spoiled brat that wants stuff they can't (underlined) have. "United Ireland" is a very nationalistic move from them, and it would be a great military and political defeat if UK agrees to surrender (underlined) their region like that. I, like many others, will give my utmost support for preserving eUK's integrity over their regions.
Otherwise, it would be the same as if Macedonia wanted "United Macedonia", so we should attack Greece in order to win that region, drag our allies into war, and then cry about it, because we want "United Macedonia".
Its absurd.
United Kingdom was for month or even years under USA, Colombian, whatever occupation and nobody showed up to help them. I personally don't share Irish nationalism and when I was CP the NE proposals between UK and Ireland were as annoying for me as for Huey George.
But why call a country spoiled brat just because it wants to play the game by its original meaning? And why show up to help UK suddenly after years at this very moment?
If you wanted United Macedonia and such things I wouldn't say any bad word.
Lithuania as an additional TW partner would be ok, but I wouldn't recommend Iran as it is an important economic centre for a number of eUK citizens.
With regard to the Northern Ireland issue - apart from the region helping our Congressional numbers (as Huey has stated) it has very little importance to the eUK. It has few active citizens and no bonuses. For me Ireland's attempts should be focused on whether they are helping their allies? If they want to go to war to help their cause then that's fine.
As a real life Irishman and the one who has proposed an NE 5 times on the UK the past 2 months, my claim is greater than the whole "republicanism" issue.
I'm all for growing communities and having a better gaming experience. Look at the UK two months ago before I started banging on your door and look at you now. Your country is in a much better position and all over what? Us being able to bang on our chests over one region - just one, we've always stated we don't want to cross the water.
The UK was a farming ground and was viewed as nothing more than that by the big three who are there now. Your real allies have shown themselves (Ukraine, Spain and Indonesia) in our wars. Your military is becoming organised and in addition to that there are more UK fighters on the battlefield than ever before.
If you don't see the absolute benefits Ireland has brought to your country, you are blind. And yes, we've brought that as aggressors to you 🙂
All the best anyway with whatever you choose, war and fun between our countries will remain plausible as long as we are on opposite sides.
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Lel, all I did read was Stockholm Syndrome description hahahahah
As an Irish person your comment is a load of wank if I'm honest. Believe your shitty delusion mate cause I certainly don't.
Free Northern Ireland!
No hand over of a British region to a country with no right to it other than one bound up with petulance and RL politics.
Kosovo is Ireland!
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I for one support re-unification https://youtu.be/UY9P0QSxlnI?t=633
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The raw fact is Ireland > UK and there's not much the UK can do to change that situation apart from accepting BP's new direction in matters.
The introduction of the new TW rules and the adoption of the four cores only worked under close alignment with the Irish on matters of TW's. Subsequent executives following my 'term' as leader or the UK chose to drop that close alignment in favour of a more traditional strategy (in addition to losing all our concession deals!).
As you can't go back to that then you are left with 2 options.
1. Close the border via TW agreement with a third nation which would involve losing Scotland.
2. Accept that Ireland will always lulz across the border and at worse you'll lose the voice of 10 congress members (not a great loss considering tradition).