[NL] A belgian's say on a recent matter
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NOTE: the Following message was send to me by DemetriusA. He wrote this article and deserves all credit for it. I was in no way involved in the writing process (tho I do agree strongly with this article)
A belgian's say on a recent matter
Recent talks have appeared regarding the matter if we should reunite. Of course, many times in the past we have told you that there is no desire to do so. Unfortunately, you seem to be in a state of denial by simply claiming that we "should speak for ourselves" and that there are those that do want to reunite. So I would like to analyze the way democracy works, at least in eBelgium:
As you might know, we in eBelgium have a congress formed up by congressmen. Congressmen are elected by the population. Obviously, the congressmen who will be picked and voted will be those that share the population's ideals. Therefore you could say that our government reflects the ideals, opinions and goals of the entire country.
And since none in our government supports the idea of uniting with Netherlands, it is safe to say that our entire country doesn't want to do so. I suggest you stop uselessly spending time and effort on the idea of opening diplomatic relationships with us based on the premise that we'll accept since we won't.
That's not mentioning the fact that the idea of United Netherlands fails as a whole. I mean where exactly is the "Belgium" in "United Netherlands"?
Since you won't achieve anything through a diplomatic path, it is plain obvious that you shall attempt to take us over through a military campaign and since the majority of your population seems to support that idea, I believe it makes it a very viable option. Unfortunately you'll only manage to bury yourself in more trouble since if you do so, the spanish and the polish will not allow it. Of course being the cowards you are, you plan on attacking us after the spanish-polish threat is over. Well I am here to tell you that even then, there will be countries ready to jump to our help. But it's not over yet, leaving the fact that you'll be utterly defeated aside, you'll also loose your reputation. I mean what kind of image are you giving yourselves by attacking a neutral country which has never shown any sign of aggressiveness towards you?
Let it be clear! Belgium is a proud, independent and free country! And shall remain so for many years to come. So just stop deceiving yourselves into thinking that we want to unite!
Signed
DemetriusA
A belgian's say on a recent matter
Recent talks have appeared regarding the matter if we should reunite. Of course, many times in the past we have told you that there is no desire to do so. Unfortunately, you seem to be in a state of denial by simply claiming that we "should speak for ourselves" and that there are those that do want to reunite. So I would like to analyze the way democracy works, at least in eBelgium:
As you might know, we in eBelgium have a congress formed up by congressmen. Congressmen are elected by the population. Obviously, the congressmen who will be picked and voted will be those that share the population's ideals. Therefore you could say that our government reflects the ideals, opinions and goals of the entire country.
And since none in our government supports the idea of uniting with Netherlands, it is safe to say that our entire country doesn't want to do so. I suggest you stop uselessly spending time and effort on the idea of opening diplomatic relationships with us based on the premise that we'll accept since we won't.
That's not mentioning the fact that the idea of United Netherlands fails as a whole. I mean where exactly is the "Belgium" in "United Netherlands"?
Since you won't achieve anything through a diplomatic path, it is plain obvious that you shall attempt to take us over through a military campaign and since the majority of your population seems to support that idea, I believe it makes it a very viable option. Unfortunately you'll only manage to bury yourself in more trouble since if you do so, the spanish and the polish will not allow it. Of course being the cowards you are, you plan on attacking us after the spanish-polish threat is over. Well I am here to tell you that even then, there will be countries ready to jump to our help. But it's not over yet, leaving the fact that you'll be utterly defeated aside, you'll also loose your reputation. I mean what kind of image are you giving yourselves by attacking a neutral country which has never shown any sign of aggressiveness towards you?
Let it be clear! Belgium is a proud, independent and free country! And shall remain so for many years to come. So just stop deceiving yourselves into thinking that we want to unite!
Signed
DemetriusA
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Demetrimaxxxxx
Since you won't achieve anything through a diplomatic path, it is plain obvious that you shall attempt to take us over through a military campaign and since the majority of your population seems to support that idea, I believe it makes it a very viable option.
HAHAHAHA
some people still think we want to invade belgium. Don't know what is going is there. But no way we will invade you. Our focus should be on the eNetherlands, not on belgium.
Your beloved Demetrius is obviously delusional. Or maybe he's just too friggin' lazy to spend more than 2 minutes on reading what kind of debate is actually going on on our side on this matter.
Don't flatter yourself, there will be no war over Belgium, nor will there be any need for your buddies to help you out with anything. We have other things to focus on actually.
@demetrius/shadowUKCs - Why dont you worry about what youre doing, and let us worry about what were doing, rather than poking in with your half-cocked opinions every five minutes. I pity the activity of the press in Belgium, that you must always be publishing in the UNL!
@Deviltje - "Our focus should be on the eNetherlands, not on belgium"
I am glad I am not the only one supporting this viewpoint!
O yeah, and please someone send some gold to Demetrius to open up a newspaper :'-)
Pander Sols: How pathetic! Since you can't use the "it's only your opinion" anymore, you know turn to calling me delusional. Fact is, the majority of you dutch supported a merge, may it be through diplomatic means, and if those would have failed, through a military campaign. "Weirdly" enough I can't read that topic on your forum anymore so I unfortunately can't give you the exact quote.
And trust me, I would have had a newspaper a long time ago. But unlike others, I invest my gold into profitable shares :'-)
@DemetruisA, get your facts straight first before making articles. No dutchmen want's to invade Belgium. First you have no raws, second you can't get along with us, third it will only cost gold.
A friendly merger is only possible if both sides agree, which is an utopia at the moment.
I am calling you delusional, because IF you'd followed the recent discussion, you would've known that there is absolutely no intention, nor the support to start anything military. Nevertheless, here you are, releasing an article filled with tough remarks and threats. I had expected more from a MoD, but hey, it's all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Too bad you can't provide me with the quote, but it doesn't matter anyway: there will be no merge. Perhaps some people over here started getting that a bit later than you guys over there, but hey, better late than never right?
It's a good thing you know about investing though. Perhaps you should try the post of MoF in a next government then 😛
'I mean where exactly is the "Belgium" in "United Netherlands"?'
Belgium was atleast half of the congress and government in the times we were merged, I don't know where you've been in that time, but you obviously didn't pay attention.
'Since you won't achieve anything through a diplomatic path, it is plain obvious that you shall attempt to take us over through a military campaign and since the majority of your population seems to support that idea, I believe it makes it a very viable option. Unfortunately you'll only manage to bury yourself in more trouble since if you do so, the spanish and the polish will not allow it. Of course being the cowards you are, you plan on attacking us after the spanish-polish threat is over.'
Where has the friendly mind gone since our two countries were separated? I don't rember Belgians or Dutch making such insults like cowards....
(btw, we are not affraid of spanish or polish, we attacked them head on, once, and lost in the last few mins!)
After I read this article I have no intensions at all, anymore, to merge with belgium. Seems like a lot of people insulting each other all the time.
"As you might know, we in eBelgium have a congress formed up by congressmen. Congressmen are elected by the population. Obviously, the congressmen who will be picked and voted will be those that share the population's ideals. Therefore you could say that our government reflects the ideals, opinions and goals of the entire country"
This implies a basic understanding of democracy. Between this, and acknowledging the legitimacy of a vote in the United Netherlands, open to citizens of the United Netherlands, where does your understanding of democracy fail?
What right do citizens of Belgium or any other state have, to dictate the UNL what we can and cant have votes about? That is my problem with this whole debacle.
Question: Why do you eNetherlands citizens keep calling your country UNL?
You're just the eNetherlands now.
And thus the Flame War began.
Great job, guys...
We thought, from the moment we were parted by spain and poland, we would unite once again, after the EDEN forces had been defeated. We could not act because spain and poland would immidiatly take it back. But still we believed in a United Netherlands, because loads of Belgians still live here.
Also, (I'm not completely sure about this one) officially we're still the United Netherlands, no official document had separated that union.
.. LOL
@Collin Roche - Why do you call yourself Belgium? We would rather you called yourselves "the breakaway republic of Flanders and Wallonia". You do what you want, and we will do what we want.
@Collin: Must be delusional...
België is en blijft een apenland, zowel in eRep als daarbuiten...
"As you might know, we in eBelgium have a congress formed up by congressmen. Congressmen are elected by the population."
I really loled at this one..
Congressmen are elected by foreign (or better American) population you mean 😉
And eUNL will never attack Belgium.. everybody knows this but the propaganda is running anyway.. I find that rather pathetic..
Almost just as pathetic that half of congress is American in Belgium..
To me it is obvious that (since this article speaks for the whole population of belgium) every Belgium thinks we want to invade Belgium......... NOT!!!
And that after a long period of eUNL, belgium presidents in eNL, diplomatic and ecenomic wellfare. I feel your pain real Belgium inhabents....
Apperantly the Beliums( read their puppetmasters) also have back-up from alot of countries.....
To me it is clear they are not nutral AT ALL. indoctrinated and brainwashed and only having a masker on there true faces.
I hope all Belgiums see this maskerade on time.
Have no fear for Holland my Belgium friend. Invasion from our side will not happen.