[MoD] New Orders/Info sheet & Guidelines Consultation
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Hi all,
First things first as Hollenboer has pointed out on the feed there is a free ‘Children’s Day’ pack available today in the Gold Store… I would say Happy Children’s day to any children reading this but children aren’t allowed to play eRep - it’s in the Terms of Service. Nevertheless I am sure Plato knows what he is doing!
This weekend we will see Turkey move from the North West of England to the West Midlands; following that Japan will move into the North West of England. Be mindful that Turkey needs to win its attack on WM and Japan will need to win its attack on NWoE.
On to business - some chunkier updates from the MoD today to see you into the weekend (Whimsy is still available if that's more your thing).
Please share any thoughts regarding any of the below in the comments and a big thanks goes to those who have shared their views so far.
New Orders Sheet
How you check orders and interact with the MoD is changing!
The MoD Info sheet will no longer be the landing page for MoD resources. This will be archived information, and will be updated less frequently as we sheet to the new eDefence sheet.
You can view the eDefence Sheet here, or at https://tinyurl.com/eDefence
This will be kept up to date as orders update, and contains just the key information you need to make deployment decisions. It has some quick links and the currents points table for overhitting reports.
Thanks to everyone who has offered feedback on the new sheet this week. We will include it in shouts and messages and by all means bookmark the links to refer to when deploying.
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Battle Guidelines Consultation (etiquette and points process)
Over the past weeks we have been running a consultation on what our battle guidelines should be. Thanks to everyone who has shared their views in comments, PM’s and in wider discussions on the topic. As a reminder the set of rules finalised by the previous administration can be found here. These contain provisions which allow MPP/TW allies to hit from T0 (minute 0 of a battle) and 3rd party fighters to hit from T30. They require players to do 20k in Air and 125k in Ground to ‘claim’ a medal.
Key Themes
Key themes from the views shared are:
T- should be updated so that MPP and TW partners are asked to wait before hitting on the UK side of a battle.
3rd Party fighters should not be given a greenlight to hit in UK battles until the end of empty rounds.
Guidelines are too meta and people should be able to log in, do their kills, and log out without it being treated like a problem.
The D4 damage levels are too high, potentially unnecessary and disadvantage groups of players.
The damage levels in Air have not been commented on so we take them to be acceptable.
As you can see there is a wide range of views, some of which do not complement one another. Trying to reconcile guidelines with these themes will always be a challenge but by constant review and dialogue I am confident we can get there.
Recommendations
The Government has made some recommendations and invites everyone to share final thoughts before they are enacted. These recommendations are to make the guidelines more practical and to bring the points processes up to date. They seek to incorporate the feedback from the public, streamline the guidelines, and encourage overhitters to follow guidelines rather than pushing them into ignoring them.
The guidelines currently apply to the UK side of TW’s, and that will remain the same.
Guidelines
Medals on the UK side shall be for:
- UK players only between 0-20 mins (T0).
- UK and Partner (TW/MPP) after the twentieth minute (T20).
- The prerequisite damage for eUK Air fighters to claim a medal (20k) will remain the same.
- Because the T- rules manage the expectations of non-UK fighters and there are relatively few reports of overhitting between eUK citizens in Division 4 (2 Div 4 points were allocated in all of May); there will be no prerequisite damage for claiming a D4 medal. eUK Fighters are asked to respect one another's runs. That being said, to prevent people parking minimal damage and generating reports, overhitting will not result in points if the ‘starting’ damage was less than 50 million.
- eUK Fighters native to Divisions 1-3 shall have right of way in those Divisions.
This will take us from 20+ rules to 5.
Points Process
The MoD will review and verify reports. Where clear overhitting can be identified in the available contextual data a ‘point’ will be allocated. The eDefence sheet will show the current distribution of points so people can see if points have been allocated and to whom.
There are two changes to the Points process the Government will make after time for feedback:
We recommend the number of points needed to become ineligible for rewards rises from 2 to 3. This is in order to:
- Ensure repeat offenders are still ineligible.
- Whilst also keeping people engaged with the guidelines after their first infraction, so they have a reason to stop (using the carrot AND the stick).
This also allows for a small benefit of the doubt to those who simply play a different way to others.
Additionally we recommend points expire after 20 days instead of 60 days.
This is because:
- There is no incentive to engage with the guidelines if players have to wait 60 days to become eligible for rewards after overhitting. It only encourages more overhitting.
- Nevertheless those not engaging with the guidelines at all will still accrue points at a rate that will keep them ineligible.
Next steps
After final feedback the eUK Government will publish the guidelines in full so fighters and the MoFA can discuss any issues arising from the new T- guidelines.
Additionally to encourage thorough use of the overhitting reporting tool, it will be included in MoHA communications campaigns which will also clearly communicate the new guidelines.
Lastly, toward the end of next month we will review the aggregated data on overhitting reports to evaluate whether our approach is working. This should be done regularly. The data collected to understand reporting over time has been historically sketchy. As such the reporting form now asks a couple more questions meaning in a few weeks we should have a more meaningful data set to interrogate overhitting with.
So all that being said - please share any thoughts.
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Epics Survey
A big thanks goes to everyone who has filled in the survey on Epic timings so far.
The results currently look like this :
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We will keep the survey open for another couple of days. The form does not record any of your personal details, just your username and preferences.
As you may expect after work and either side of dinner time is currently proving a popular Epic Window. We intend to use this to inform when we arrange epics with, but you can appreciate it takes two to tango so there will always be an element of meeting our Epic partners halfway.
Nevertheless - fill it in, the more info we have the better!
On the topic of Epics, our thanks go to those who contributed pre-Epic damage to Tuesday’s Epic, which was very well attended.
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Thanks!
Thanks for reading,
Mr Woldy
&
Darkmantle
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Comments
o7
I miss recommendations for 3rd party fighters in your battle guidelines. 🙂
you're 1st party now ;P More than happy to incorporate further thoughts on 3rd party fighters though o7
I know 😌
Wasn't talking about me though.
"there will be no prerequisite damage for claiming a D4 medal"
You have to be joking. In the past when 80m was the requirement there were cases where players in D4 would do just over 80m in multiple battles simultaneously which made finding a eUK battle to fight in and abide by the guideline.
Answer this simple question: If there is no prerequisite damage for D4 what is stop a single player doing paltry amounts of damage in multiple battles effectively making life difficult for all other D4 players
In the last sentence 50 million are mentioned. Not sure, if this is enough as I've only started myself.
What you describe is actually an issue with having any guidelines and not an issue with having a low/no damage threshold. Any guideline here makes a battle first come, first serve. If you apply a damage threshold it becomes first come first serve only for those who can actually reach that level of damage. That does not create a level playing field in D4. Neither is it particularly fair to demand a group of players dump loads of damage in empty rounds to meet a made up threshold.
The question really is whether therefore guidelines can actually function at all in div 4 or whether we should remove guidelines to make it competitive. That will be something the evaluation of the overhitting data can help answer. Albeit there is a small mitigation as LIS has described in as far as people who do scattergun damage won't be able to report people if they're overhit. if it is evident that someone is abusing that then we will take action. Common sense always has a hand to play.
It seems arbitrary and a bit of a fools errand rules that define and demand people do the decent thing to create room in D4 battles, because that will not make anyone happy. We should just be able to expect people not to mess about, corps d'esprit and all that.
And to really emphasise here, in regards to everything that is the Gov's responsibility we absolutely do not sit on our hands if something looks amiss or if some initiative is being abused. Hard lessons have been learnt about why we shouldn't. Anything that comes through via reports that would suggest someone is causing trouble will be dealt with, if it helps we can take it as read that rule 1 is 'don't be a dick!'
o7
if you cant do 80mill in D4 you should not have leveled up so fast, D4 is for big hitters, stick to a divion you can do the dmg in.. what you thje rank + str for thje next div then move up, just my oppinion
D4 is also where the best missions rewards are too!
level 200 - Free Train Forever!
level 300 - +400 Energy Center (permanent)
level 400 - +600 Energy Center (permanent)
It's unfortunate that players reach D4 at level 70 whilst the good stuff that has a permanent positive effect only starts at level 200.
Your so out of touch with this game its embarrassing
Please enlighten me
This was aimed at Frag. As you get to level 70 pretty easy. Then we had a government article saying to level up quicker that was so dumb. But yeah alot of T4 are lower strength there is an ever expanding gap between lower str D4 and higher D4. Due to people buying packs and stuff.
But lower D4 will keep growing due to more people slowly coming up the levels. Punishing players because they have played the game and didnt spend money will slowly strangle the life out of the player base in an already slowly dying game. If i was the developers i would make a D5 but that wont happen.
so witch part of what i said is embarrassing?
"if you cant do 80mill in D4 you should not have leveled up so fast" like people have a choice.
Technically we're all the children of someone!
God?
I was thinking more along simplistic lines and would say we're our parents' children regardless of age!
That's not as profound tho