[Congress] Blacklisting Feynmann over accepted CS request
UNL Congress
Greetings, citizens of Netherlands,
a new debate has been started at the request of Congress members Dirk.Benedict and Feynmann. The details of the proposal are posted below directly from Congress message.
Results:
Yes:7
No:13
Neutral:6
The proposal has been rejected.
Janty F and Shawtyl0w
CoC Team
Comments
Another 1 from the Bitch and Whine party *shrugs*
They are right for at least starting a procedure as law dictates. Congress can still decide whether or not they agree it deserved a blacklisting with a 2/3 majority.
Feynmann acted in his own belief as Congressman yes, not entirely following the rules, knowing that a blacklist vote would be started. But he followed the suggestions by the Government regarding this pressing emergency application, so the only issue here to me seems procedural (just like the blacklist vote is an automatic blacklist vote, on which Congress can decide whether it deserved blacklisting (I do not) - the arbitrary 3 months is, however, a disregard for law as well, for example).
I’d rather rejoice in the fact such a worthy player is now part of the eNetherlands, thanks to the open environment we offer to our allies in need - just as we’re doing to e.g. Portuguese
2-3 maanden is redelijk standaard voor immigratie overtredingen.
No worries, Odan. Fey won't cause more trouble and won't do any more maanden 🙂
First order of business before I consider my vote:
- Would he be accepted via normal procedure?
If answered by yes I will vote no as Feynmann knows damn well how it works and apparently firmly believes he acted in the best interest of eNL.
I do realise it's a bit of a double standard though. Following our laws blindly however as some value over common sense is not my style so I prefer common sense...
Hij had of gewoon de 24 uur moeten wachten, of naar de (vice) president moeten stappen en vragen of hun eventueel een noodprocedure wilden starten.
willens en wetens de wet overtreden is gewoon verkeerd.
I'm sorry he just wanted to help me. I didn't knew I have to wait so long. I would never apply if I knew , because I sooner or later would find other countries to hep me. Please don't attack him, because of me. :/
Thx for proving the blindly following laws issue...
Asking the (vice)president would have been wise indeed. Oh wait that's something he actually did but was not answered within a few minutes, so blame the CP for not being on 24/7 🙂.
So it's rather simple: if my first question as to if 1UP would have been accepted (something no-one doubts) Feynmann gets a warning he's been a bit of a naughty boy and will be told not to act swiftly in the best interest of eNL any-more if he fears the mad odan's...
nou ja de vp is zo goed als ontzichtbaar (maar dat is het probleem van de regering), en het is niet alsof een half uurtje wachten op de president zo erg was geweest
dan was het imho nog geen noodprocedure waard maar was het in ieder geval geen blacklist voorstel tegen feynmann geweest.
weten wat de wet zegt en hem toch overtreden hoort geen simpel foei te zijn.
I'm really sorry for this misunderstanding. I didn't knew I had to wait whole day for the citizenship. Because of the wars I couldn't work in my companies and I had to leave at the moment and after asking for citizenship and thought I won't have another choice with 1% tax in example the bad luck was I got 2 offers right after I applied and couldn't change the application. I'm trying to get better place, but for now at least my energy is not wasted, because I was full this is a huge help for me!
I would leave right now if you tell me. I'm sorry I wouldn't apply if I knew it won't be immediately accepted I wouldn't apply. Please don't hate my friend for his good heart! I'm not a bad guy too! 🙂
Again I'm really sorry I forced you to get up on work at this beautiful Saturday evening! Wish you all the best! 🙂
There is no need for you to feel sorry. Thing is we have a few politicians that aren't capable of using common sense. Only strict rules. That's not something we can blame others for.
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No worries, mate, all the best people are threatened like this. 😉 Feynmann's tough; he can take it, I'm sure.
and welcome!
At least Feynmann has the balls to admit and explain what he did and why? I think bitch & whine members could follow his example!
So few destroying a nice and fine country, maybe it is time to move on?
I would advise you to lower your work tax. That's how you could have a chance to get more traveling farmers like me. That 1% difference is so huge that we would prefer other choices. 2% is just greedy and the choice for you is not 1% or 2%, but 1% and 0%. As may be the person who is the most affected farmer in the world with this MAD taxation which is definitely not 2%, but most of the year 90-100%+ of the production that change of the admins made the game a slavery game which isn't suppose to be at a day where we have science to fight with tanks, airplane and even 110M atom bombs 😃
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/quick-work-tax-announcement-2698917/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/work-tax-around-the-world-2689804/1/20
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/on-4-work-tax-in-4-seconds-2689510/1/20
It's like I hear myself from the distant future, where I have 1200 more levels or so 😉 .
On a serious note though - we have lowered our WT by half in a span of one year. And at the moment, we simply cannot afford the last cut, as our tax income is below the threshold I deem as necessary to allow tax reduction without need to cut back on our programs. All in all, we try to invest the tax money we get back into our active citizens, so collecting taxes might not be bad, if you stay in NL for longer period of time 😉 .
https://prnt.sc/prkkxw
hahhah 😃 Good job my friend! 🙂 Keep doing the good work here! 🙂
omg omg omg I love tables like this!
Given the fact the person in question no longer has Dutch CS, I see this debate as a pointless one, as no harm was visibly done by acceptance of the CS (unlike the clearly visible harm caused by this debate).
All I wanted was to star working immediately on the lower tax cost. I'm very thankful I had the opportunity to get even the chance to work here with you lovely people on 2%, but other Latvian friend offered me fast citizenship with 1% and I took it. That's an example - I wouldn't change if it was 1% here and with my bunch of companies you would get a lot profit. I hope someday will be back when I need and hope I would get a wild card for getting the citizenship faster, because if I need it it's because I can't work and this is absolutely killing me! 😃 Wish you have a nice weekend to all of you.
You should know I'm celebrating the 27th April in the Netherlands embassy here in Sofia, Bulgaria last 3 years! 😃
No harm no faul.
This mess and the others before it, actually I would like to see I&W controlling the country and managing the fine programs in here.
I bet TW😒 would stop, immigration would stop (some would leave for sure). Any type of resource deals would stop and most likely the country would be invaded by the lack of diplomatic skills inside I&W party.
Dont think there would be much of any type of programs to the citizens, because of interest from the members to do anything useful for their country. Instead it is the "hated" foreigners by I&W who are contributing a lot for eNL.
zonder I&W was eNL al een aantal jaren geleden dood geweest. waarschijnlijk nog slechter af als een zuid afrika er nu bijvoorbeeld voorstaat.
hkökjöluiy gdikaigdu paäaösiu bvuv nxknapc äalsmnavxia.
Pessoalmente não sei se concordo com um ou com outro. Como não percebo nada do que estão para a falar nessas línguas estranhas vou mas é ficar quieto e não vou meter mais lenha na fogueira.
Er mogen in eNL 2 talen gebruikt worden Fmcv. Engels en Nederlands.
I have no problem with that but going to google translate every time you speak it's annoying. I respect what you are trying to do (keeping the NL values) but by outcasting every people that wants to contribute to a better eNL you are just being douchy
Jakież to typowe dla tego Pana zachowanie 🙂
Whahahahahahahaha
Wow, most stupid comment ever odan.
荷蘭沒有官方語言
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It is the correct action to bring the matter to vote. Enforcement of the law should be applied uniformly and in good faith so that's what we're doing here.
Feynmann knew the rules and the potential consequence.
He attempted to follow procedure and sought advice from government members.
And he violated the rules anyway.
I believe he acted in good faith and not out of malice.
I vote No.
Feynmann broke the law and did so knowingly. In this case however the law did not serve eNL as a country. Maybe the law should be changed and the minimum 24h rule should only apply to dubious cases. Because in this case Feynmann broke the law but the law is flawed I vote neutral. The law should serve eNL not hold eNL back the same goes for congressmen. I do however want to state that this should definitely not become a standard.
There already is an option for the (v)cp to make an emergency case, removing the 24 hour minimum is just asking for rushed applications that can endanger the country.
Feynmann knew this but still broke the law, he should have waited for them to make a decision not break the law that is put in place to try and keep our country safe.
Exempting him from punishment is just giving all the wrong signals for future applications.