[95 Year Old Prostitute Delivers 10th Child...]
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Ian John Locke IV
Yeah so did you hear about the non-existent 95 year old prostitute who gave birth to her non-existent 10th child?
Yeah so clearly that was a joke....
\\Awkward lulz//
WALL OF TEXT ALERT
[What I really wanted to talk about]
Anyway I wanted to bring something to the attention of the American people as this has deeply disturbed me.
[Hypothesis]
Donovanator is a true right-wing neo-conservative wack job.
[Evidence]
On the eUS forums yesterday, Donovanator posted a topic calling for separatism and partisanship within our great nation's Congress. For those of you who have not seen this, I encourage you to visit the topic (as it is a short one) here.
For those of you too lazy to actually go and read this thread, let me highlight a few quotes:
[Quotes]
Donovanator
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We have gained a good part of congressional seats. We have actually taken these seats from the USWP. This is fine example of how America is getting tired of these liberals. I want to set up a right-winged movement to shift the views of the American people from the Liberal side and shift it in on to our side.
I want to make sure that ALL Conservatives in Congress do not cooperate with the PANEC plan and vote against the high taxes.......make sure that we explain how this is a bad impact on the economy and make sure that we back it up with truth not theories. We need to talk to the other right-sided congress members and explain how high-taxes, entitlement spending (such as "MOW") will not help the state of the economy and make our armies better....
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I also want to set up a CVP Media attack week.......basically we let our top 7 newspaper writers write about anything CVP supportive, and anti -Liberal (plz offer to do so.) I am also up to suggestions to help ourselves speak up because basically it seems that we are too quite and are a silent majority.
We need to spark a conservative movement. We need to tell these liberals that they don't control congress anymore (they had 10% approval rating and they think that they know what's best for America) and that we want things done the RIGHT(sided) way. MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OTHER PARTY's Congressman to get on our side.
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GoBucks
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Well my reasoning why high taxes don't hurt is quite simple and it relates to the in game mechanics. Think I work 30 days in a row in real life ooh employee of the month!!! My picture on the wall. I work 30 days in a row in the game I get 5 gold, hell ya! Thats roughly 300 dollars which is a little more than the average monthly salary of a month at $9.01 times 30. And this relates to taxes how you ask? Well that average person is taxed about $54.30 in a month when they work ever day and they get nearly 552% of that back at the end of the month for working every day. Or in other terms the 20% tax is practically only 10% for the average worker who works every day.
Right there is a big difference in taxation between RL and ER, in RL any income that I earn is taxed at the income tax rate however in ER for the worker only wages are taxed not all sources of income. This simple difference allows the average man to earn back 552% of what he/she pays in taxes simply by being active in the game.
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mindflay
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well well. Now Im arrogant. And I take it that Im not to smart either, thank you for clearing that up for me.
"Guys ... it's not cool to come onto CVP turf and piss on their carpet. Sure everyone does it to us" Thank you scrab. Im by the way not one that comes into your turf and pisses on your carpet.
Panther you are probably one of the most disrespectful little jack offs Ive ever had the pleasure to meet. I get a lot of this bullshit about read what was said and beleive me i do. Your just the little punk ass that beleives that you know it all already and you try to defend that by telling me and others as if we where all just a bunch of dumb asses that we should read it again. I can read it a 100 times and it still says the same shit.
Perhaps you people should begin to pratice what you are preaching, this is a game and this is my charactor. Nothing personal, just a persona. So get that through your little head and stop with all the bullshit. I dont jump into your area and spot off crap about how you are wrong because i beleive that you can think what ever the hell you want to think and i can disagree with it.
Now you can go ahead and act up once again.
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[Conclusions]
Most of you are thinking... well if all that is true who do we believe?
I'll tell you, go research PANEC and the different committees who worked on this COMPROMISE and look at their research and conclusions. There's too much there to explain in this article, which has already become a wall of text. (PANEC, for those of you who DON'T already know stands for : Publius Ananias NoneSuch Economic Compromise... Publius (Libs), Ananias (USWP), NoneSuch (UIP)... 2 conservatives and 1 liberal... sounds super liberal right there)
As you can see Donovanator arguing, he is saying that all we "liberals" want to do with PANEC is use the money raised with the taxes to go to war with the world... if anyone takes this seriously, I defy you to talk to any "liberal" and see exactly what they think.
Meals on Wheels
Am I the only person who has heard of this program started by Uncle Sam, President of the United States?
Well I would hope not...
This program needs money, where anyone expects the US government to get that money, besides from taxes, baffles me.
I would say that if we were to have operated on the taxes we had before, we would probably be bankrupting our nation with this program. With higher taxes we will be helping our young and struggling new citizens with the cost of food.
Conservative Principles?
That's all they are using to argue this separatist movement in Congress. PRINCIPLES!
Sure they can say I don't argue with any principles, but they're wrong. I have said from the start that any plan that will benefit our country and has concrete proof behind it, I will support with great emphasis.
PANEC has a wide range of NUMERICAL and MATHEMATICAL evidence backing it. On real life principles, I would normally decry these taxes, but let's look at where we are.... WE ARE IN A... (wait for it).... GAME!!!!
How many people is this really hurting? And who really? The people who get paid lots of money in their jobs like, oh I don't know, Donovanator!
If you make 2 USD, you're losing .40 USD per day. If you're making 20 USD a day, you'll be losing 4 USD a day. Can you see why Donovanator is railing against this? (Beware that I don't know his actual salary.)
[But why would I write this article?]
No I am not attacking the conservatives.
I actually have compassion for their ignorance (take note of what compassion means: suffering with).
Simply, I am disappointed
I was a part of the independent congressional committee that put together a list of 51 candidates that we believed would be best for Congress. I don't remember who Dononvanator ran against or why they ended up endorsing him or her, but I remember fighting for Dononvanator's endorsement and feeling upset when I didn't secure it for him.
There is a false sense that Congress is disconnected from the American people. I do not see any merit in this, but with someone as seemingly intelligent and "in touch" I thought he would be a perfect candidate for congress.
Clearly I was wrong. This is my main reason for writing this article. I am writing this to apologize for backing the wrong candidate.
Comments
Nicely said!
.40 cents decides whether or not you can afford Q1 or Q2 food. It's 40 cents that you could use to send a gift to your partner. Donovanator could use that extra $4 to pay his employees an addition .40 per day(if he has 10 ppl) Now the employees have an .80 cent raise and it only goes up as you gain more experience. With that extra .80 new citizens don't need MoW. Now I'm not defending everything Donovanator said but don't dismiss him too much
I understand Muljo Gobet
I wish I could have a co-author to add such points as that, but I'm too volatile a writer to deal with anyone else whilst I write 😉
lol I feel ya
END PARTISANSHIP!
"PANEC has a wide range of NUMERICAL and MATHEMATICAL evidence backing it. On real life principles, I would normally decry these taxes, but let's look at where we are.... WE ARE IN A... (wait for it).... GAME!!!!"
Then why are you making a big deal out of this? I can speak my opinion in a game -can't I?
"how many people is this really hurting? And who really? The people who get paid lots of money in their jobs like, oh I don't know, Donovanator!"
Really hurting? Well as Mujo said I could use that money for more than just myself such as employing people or giving them a raise,but instead that money is going toward the U.S. congress.......so instead of employing people-who is this really hurting? I wouldn't say that your plan is helping Ian.
Didn't say you couldn't speak your mind. I'm just showing how your partisanship is hurting America.
This is going to US congress? Really? Cause we all get paid right?
In case you didn't notice, there are jobs and people taking those jobs. It's not like it has been in the past where we've had a shortage of 0-0.99 jobs and we've had to provide EXTRA for the new players.
Now, to compensate for this tax plan, we're helping those who can either not afford food, or who can not manage their finances.
Either way, since you believe in increasing the flow of money to the American markets, you should not care whether or not you are going to make money off of anything, you should naturally give your employees raises.
You states clearly last night that money should not be constantly taken off the market or out of circulation, but really, we're not taking all that money out of circulation. We're spending it on food. It's going back into the markets.
You of all people should recognize that.
And if my plan isn't helping, and your partisanship isn't helping, how about a new compromise. Instead of just blocking PANEC, how about congress comes together and makes this a bit more manageable?
I would assume you're against that as you didn't even try for that route.
"You states clearly last night that money should not be constantly taken off the market or out of circulation, but really, we're not taking all that money out of circulation. We're spending it on food. It's going back into the markets."
1) You are taking it out of everyone's hands and only it only goes to a few people.
2) We really only need this program because taxes have gotten higher.
3) It is just not that effected because I haven't seen any active skill 0 die from starvation to being with.
"This is going to US congress? Really? Cause we all get paid right?"
*sighs* Geezus. What I mean by this is that congress gets to choose were this money goes...........why do i need to explain?
"In case you didn't notice, there are jobs and people taking those jobs. It's not like it has been in the past where we've had a shortage of 0-0.99 jobs and we've had to provide EXTRA for the new players."
Yeah i have noticed, yet i still say that the increased amount taken from people's wallets ,thus they aren't able to save money to buy bigger things as fast as they could and that cause some industries to slow down or even cause some companies to shut down and if you haven't noticed- our GDP has HALVED since the taxes were doubled.
Love the title. 😃
This is like a boxing match. Ian lands what looks like a knockout punch, but Donovator blocks with #1 [ taking it out of people's hands.. ] I wonder how Ian will respond.
What do I get out of this?
I don't care if you're liberal, conservative, love the taxes, hate the taxes, USWP, CVP or anything else. If you're calling on the eUS to be more partisan then you're not trying to do what's best for America. If the CVP follows Donovanator's advice then they won't have to worry about being in the majority next month.
That's a nice thing to say. Obviously, our parties differ. Partisanship. We disagree, we want what we think is best. We disagree with your ideas. Partisanship.
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Alphamegas'3....
How will anything get done if the congress cannot agree on anything? If the parties become staunch leftists or staunch right-wingers how will anything get done.
For one thing, Indonesia and Romania war almost constantly, especially Indonesia. That's one thing that I've heard constantly decried from the conservative movement. They claim it costs too much. Then when we war they want more money for the treasury.
Another point, I don't know concretely, but I am pretty sure that the Romanian and Indonesian governments kind of "wing it" when considering the economy.
Our studies have proven this with the purest science of all, mathematics, to be the best solution to all of your complains.
And you are using partisanship in the wrong context. I have no problem with principles. That's not an issue. Splitting congress into an immobile body is what bothers me. That's real partisanship.
Maybe I need to clarify myself..this is the reason why i posted that post in the forums
Every time I say something in congress or where ever and I say that I want 10% but I will be fine with anything that is lower than 20%, and then someone in congress tries to say that no one agrees with me and that my party is too silent to do anything, so I tried to rally them and then people got upset with how I am trying to split congress....this is simply not true.
I just want for congress members to split up in what they believe in and find a middle ground with the other sides principals.
I am tired for just a majority that is a little bit bigger than the other one to start making decisions for the whole without making a compromise.
I am glad you pointed that out and that is what I have been trying to imply.
I don't believe in a divided congress i just believe in a bi-partisan congress that find middle grounds.- you got it?
I do believe we are on the same page just arguing with each other on something that i do believe we could do something better with that time.
I really just want a little bit more of those congressman who really are just bystanders to say something-it doesn't have to be long just an agreement or disagreement.
What I wrote in the Conservative forums was a plan that was suppose to help Conservative congress get closer to their allies, and know who their enemies are and then bargain to find a middle ground- I don't want congress NOT to anything at all just something, and unfortunately it turned to something that said that i was anti-American and anti-cooperation.
Do i need to write a counter article?
yes lol
In RL, the U.S. government was established in a manner to make it difficult to get things passed. Look at the current real life situation. One party has complete power, no "bickering" and all we get is more spending and higher taxation. So immobilizing congress to prevent an increase in taxes and forcing Congress to run on that issue is not a bad thing, especially in elife where votes are every month.
As for Romania and Indonesia warring constantly (I watched Indonesia do a battle today, through France) how do they fund it with 1% income tax? I have been told they rarely fund the wars. That link I gave in last comment takes you to the conversation I had with a person familiar.
I have said before, before you established tax rates, you must establish spending priorities. Many people who voted yes on PANEC was because they believed they had to to fund spending. Yet PANEC never really discussed spending, it was all about funding current spending.
Indonesia has 1% income tax, and there GDP is almost twice as large as ours on a per capita basis, and yet "war almost constantly, especially Indonesia". So all I know is this. If they are "winging it" it works better than our "purest science of all", and it looks very much like RL conservative right wing wacko principles.
So I strongly support Donovanator's goal, because I have yet to have a decent explanation why Indonesia's success cannot be repeated here, nor why it shouldn't be.
By the way, you misunderstand his goals. His goal is not to divide Congress...his goal to organize so that next elections, he will have a united Congress that wants to reform the gov so we have low spending, low taxes, and plenty of wars, just like Romania and Indonesia. I will love to watch you argue against that goal.
O all of you Shut up. The right thing to do for america is.
Number 1-End all wars with innocent countries
Number 2- Stop the rubbing in of party victories
Number 3- Stop the assumation that Americans are tired of liberals.
Number 4- United we stand not Divided we fail
Last but not least- Start working instead of argueing
To Ian's comment-
"I didn't get my first house until V1, assuming that's what you are speaking of. If you were a true "conservative" you would believe in free market capitalism meaning that if a company goes under, then it is the company's own fault. I for one do not think that these owners should lose their business because of these taxes, but if they were intelligent players, they would be able to adapt to the taxes.",
To tax companies into oblivion as a government official and then place the blame on them as not being intelligent or capitalistic enough to survive is simply asinine.
That is akin to taking a child out on a lake, throwing it in, and if it doesn't survive and learn to swim then saying it wasn't "strong enough". To partisanship I would remind you of the words of the greatest conservative America has ever known, George Washington:
"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty."
So to both of you I offer a suggestion: use your parties to BE elected and once you are, do the will of the people THAT elected you.
I lol'd at Donovanator ranting about his own intelligence and misspelling every other word practically.
Bad spelling and grammar is the internet equivalent of body odor.
Nobody can think of a nice way to tell you that in spite of the point you are trying to make, you smell like ass.