To our french friends, from Italy.
Rhevard
As you've probably seen or heard, Italy, today, didn't fight in Aquitaine.
We fought before the daychange there, and at the end we were the 4° attackers, but none from Italian Army was in Aquitaine on day 940.
It's strange, I know, because yesterday it was an important day in eRepublik.
France decided to move on and try to liberate last two regions lost in winter. Two very important regions, with high wood resources.
As you probably know, Hungary swapped with Austria and Swizerland to border with Rhone Alps and strike it with all Phoenix.
It was a good plan, well coordinated, at least on the Phoenix part, but what about The Entente? Did French remember to get coordinate with its allies?
It seems to be so. Nobody in Entente HQ (except french) know anything about this action. Where is french president? Why doesn't he tell us about it?
We thougth, nevermind, they said they have know about all of this just few minutes before the attack, let's help our allie like we did everytimes they need it, then we equipped our troops and striked this morning.
But we can't understand why Phoenix decided to help France, with expensive swaps and attack and why didn't they tell us anything.
This morning we finally knew that Rhone Alps, if it will be liberate, will remain on Hungary hand for few month, as a payment.
It is not acceptable for us.
Last month we were ready to sped thousand of gold to liberate Rhone Alps, we proposed to french government to keep RA for two month, to make some gold from this rich region to pay battle cost, we could make a loan.
Frech heads told us that it isn't possible, it isn't a good request by an allie, vice president was angry to hear this kind of propose. It would be a little sacrifice to help an allie that could make many gold from this agreement.
But, however, we accepted France's decision, we thought that we could liberate Rhone Alps in another way.
If french government didn't want to share the region for two months, we couldn't say anything against this: we are allies, we'll act as allies.
It wasn't a payment or stuffs like this, it was just a way for Italy to get some golds back after have spent thousands of them to free RA.
But, at the end, there it happens what seems to be impossible: France makes a loan with Hungary and together they decide to give RA to Hungary for 3 months.
We knew about it from some PHX's HQ members, not from France.
We had to ask french government if it was true that they had made this agreement or not.
And when we asked why? all they could tell us is that power damages makes the difference in this kind of loan.
We were ready to spend thousands of gold, to take our responsabilities to free RA.
You could say "yes" without any problems, cause even in case of loss, you wouldn't lost anything.
But, one month ago you said no to your "bros", and now you can make a deal with Hungary without any problems.
Our conclusion is that actual French government don't take its allies in consideration.
Why should we keep on calling ourselfs "bros"?
Italy and France are allied since beta, when we conquered Switzerland, then in V1 you disappeared from the map because of the "French Toast", and we helped you to get back into the map.
And then, during the last six months we have been fighting for you every time you needed it.
Italy is a divided country, we have many crysis in our history, but even when our Army was near to a totally ruin, we were there next to you.
This is it.
At the moment I'm not part of the Government, I'm talking as a common citizen.
But I think that a lot of italians have my same ideas.
Tomorrow, maybe, we'll have a meeting with french government, and maybe we will clarify the situation, maybe we won't.
We'll see in the next months what will happen.
Rhevard,
one of italian citizens who have been fighting for you since December 2008.
P.S. Hungary has done its own interests, that's normal.
I can't blame them for anything.. in case it wasn't already clear.
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sounds like eden propaganda. seriously.
Voted.
Voted, and i agree with all the article!
why don't u stop with that shi...entente
Where is french president? x2
Entente is on the verge of the abyss, hope that France-Italy brotherhood remains ;_;
Signed
Voted!I went French Toast 2.0!
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Read at the end.
Voted, I'm really happy for the liberation of the France regions occupied by Spain, but I have to agree with Rhevard 🙂
Dear Italian friends, I am part of the French army and I appreciate your disarray. I do not understand why you have not been warned of the attack. But governments succeed each other, and do not look alike in their ways of working. I hope that our Government Will Have a justified response!
unfortunatly not preki, these facts are real.
duly voted.
"Concerning Italy
Our government is concerned about the crisis that roam the Franco-Italian relations. However, like any couple, there are occasional seizures. The key is to overcome
and make it even stronger relationship. We want to keep intact the brotherhood
Franco-Italian. Italy has always been our best ally, and it will continue."
I think that eFrench people doesn't know all about this really ... sorry then... but i'll be there for you, like i did everytime i could since the beta too.. but sure in béta you were our big brother <33 and i still see you like that
... Just sad of all i read in your press, all comment :/
WE MUSTN'T FAIL AS THE BEST FRENDSHIP EVER KNOWN in this game, since the first day.....
Rhev too much drama about this but as valky said there needs to be an official appology of the french goverment and lets not all shake Entente 😁
I spend all the day on the HQ of The Entente .... and all i can say is that Italian attitude was awful, full of misplaced pride and greediness.
Yes lack of communication was an error, and you should have complain for that, even public.
But Don't send your army was one of the more stupid move i'd ever seen.
But well, now at least, we know that Italian don't fight for their friends. they fight for money.
It is sad to see such good friends fighting 🙁
I really hope you can fix things 🙂
Well, if we had asked payments everytime we fought for other countries now Italy would be the richest country in the world.
We didn't ask money today.
We didn't make a mistake.
We wanted to show you that we're not like puppets that everytime you need them come and fight for you.
Or, at least, we have always done this because we have always had great relationships, but this time our soldiers too wouldn't like to come and fight for you.
They probably wouldn't.
Then feel free to think what your prefer.
We have never asked you simple money in exchange of damages, and don't talk with me about RA because I've already explained in entente.hq and in this article that RA wasn't a payment, in our proposal, but a kind of refund.
That's just because we can't waste 3-4k of golds without problems for our economy in our situation.
I spend all the day on the HQ of The Entente .... and all i can say is that Italian attitude was awful, full of misplaced pride and greediness.
Yes lack of communication was an error, and you should have complain for that, even public.
But Don't send your army was one of the more stupid move i'd ever seen.
But well, now at least, we know that Italian don't fight for their friends. they fight for money.
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Yes, we fight for money. So, when you'll pay us for fighting next to you during this six months? And, btw, did Huns fight for free today?
Delexo (ex?)SG of Entente, and eItalian CoA
what were we supposed to do, help another time an ally that only asks for help but doesn't support you?
Help an ally that acts as we proposed to keep the region forever and then accepts a even harder proposal (2 months vs 3 months)?
Help an ally that doesn't respect you?
Help an ally that calls you "bro" when they are in need but doesn't think you are important enough to know what they're doing?
Or hel an ally that prefers to give the region to friends instead that loan it to "bros"?
You betrayed us. You may have closed our alliance. It's your fault, not ours.
Ok Rhevard, we talked about that all the afternoon..
It's just a lack of communication. i agree with you. But we must not break our relationship just 4 that :/
Yeah Rhevard, I understand you take that like a betrayal.
I'm congress member and I can swear that the Congress learned that Aquitaine and RA were planed to be attacked like 35 or 40 minutes before the 1st attack. It also was a piece of news for us.
But I guess the government was aware of that some hours before. I can't tell.
But please take into account that Mai government was different from the actual one. And if the previous government didn't accept your offer, you can't blame the actual government for accepting the Hungarian offer.
One thing has to be remembered and preserved beyond governmental quarrels: our friendship. And I hope it'll never be marred.
PS: Darkthur is a jerk.
@ my fellow e-italians: calm down everyone, I don't see why everyone seems to be going crazy around here 🙂
@ our best friends (eFrenchies): I truly hope our friendship will last forever even though I'm looking forward to reading the official statement (of the eFrench Government) of what has happened ; anyways congratz 😁
Yep, calm down, cause I'm already tired for the entente hq's speechs and I can't keep on flaming all the day :3
Jebbidle, I hope our governments will talk asap, I've also been in your congress' chan this afternoon..
I spend all the day on the HQ of The Entente .... and all i can say is that Italian attitude was awful, full of misplaced pride and greediness.
Yes lack of communication was an error, and you should have complain for that, even public.
But Don't send your army was one of the more stupid move i'd ever seen.
But well, now at least, we know that Italian don't fight for their friends. they fight for money.
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Yeah, we help you for like 2 years even when we were under attack, but this doesn't count right?
Valky our official newspaper just say that we want our relationship continue; we will talk about this problem in another article.
Dont listen Darkthur, phoenix propaganda *_*
Things changes... 🙂 I hope eItaly will, a day, find his place. And eFrance too. In fact, they quite have the same problems. 🙂
Have fun guys and girls. Kisses.
<3
@ Rhevar😛 I was on the chan, I saw you and LordCi. I hope a discussion will be planed too but our president is a man of few words...
Nyoss, you were on entente.hq chan ? no ... so plz don't talk without knowing, ask to anyone from french gov.
even Moua mim or OnlyP didn't understand Italian attitude.
But well don't care, Italy still my friend, and i will always fight with and for them. but I'm very dissapointed today.
I understand you take that like a betrayal too.
eFrance and eITaly sounds like brotherhood in my head.
Government : it's one month
Our friendship is eternal
Hail Italy ! 🙂
🙂
I still love Delexo ( just a bad son 😃 ). But Delexo and Entente should have publish an official statement to protest against French attitude ( not saying anything and all ) i would even have support that. But refuse to send army to the final fight for our liberation, it's just ugly. Hopefully we won.
Lyne 😘
If Italy attack Rhone-Alps you'll have to face against Spain and 9 MPP (Italy attack Balearic Island : ended on 27 April 2010, 14:2😎
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An offensive launched by Italy was impossible.
But I understand your position.
French people love eItaly because you're our best friends since the beginning 😉
And this problem comes from our government, because I didn't know this problem, like a lot of french citizens.
So, I think that you should speak with our government about this problem instead of thinking that we don't like you, simply because it's totally wrong.
Hail eItaly !
And thanks for your great help in Aquitaine 😉
Dear Italians friends, I'm a french soldier, and I want say to you thanks. Thanks for your support during this year in this war. You are our best allies, I was here to defend Sardinia against eSpain a long time ago, we fought together against evil forces, and it has no price.
So yes, you didn't fought today, and after ? We won, so there is no trouble. Communication was not really good, for everybody, all was quickly decided and soldiers like me were very surprised.
I hope our old friendship will be healed, for me you will be our bros forever !
Voltigore, those mpps weren't already activated, and, to tell the truth, we had mpps against spain activated.. we're not crazy.
But that's another story..
'I hope our old friendship will be healed, for me you will be our bros forever ! 'x2
"So yes, you didn't fought today, and after ? "
+ 1
agree , it's your choice and i totaly respect it !
thks for everything you ever did dear allies.
french congress wasn't aware of the incoming attack earlier that 30 mins before it was launched? wow, cool... i knew it 30 hours earlier and i'm not part of any army nor government. you have serious problems guys. not to mention the part where you accused italian government to fight for france just to have a "personal" gain by taking ra for a couple of moths, but later agreed to give it to hungary for a longer period.
do you really think you had a fair attitude? because almost every word i hear from french people sounds like bulls**t. your only chance is that really the 99% of you dind't know anything about that. but this would make you all people talking about something you don't know, and i'm not sure this is a good excuse.
the only good thing france can do now is to tell italy something like "sorry, we made a big mistake. is there something we can do to fix the situation?".
@Rhevard
"Voltigore, those mpps weren't already activated, and, to tell the truth, we had mpps against spain activated.. we're not crazy.
But that's another story.. "
So it wasn't last month but even before ? That's kind of important for us because it tell us which government took the decision.
Voted
It's seems the Entente is going worse and worse. First the block of the representative of the Ukrainian Congress in the HQ, now this incident with the Italians... 🙁
Uf, comunication ... too many things stink today and yesterday, but that is not reason for stupid fights. Both (us?) make mistakes, so noones are the Holy Saint of Knife ( =3 ).
----> Make love, not war.
ookyrrei: ENTENTE is awesome, it's a good alliance, sorry for your access, but it have a reason.
Cheers.
santi. PY CP.
santirub Those reasons were false!
Now you killing the Entente 🙁
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Italy had 9mmp activate against spain... lol
As a French guy, I completely understand your point of vue. I've always thought that The Entente is important and should even grow including more small and medium countries.
I really do not understand how the French Government could forget our friends and allies. But, you should that our new president is pro Phoenix!!! While all the country told him, during a "referendum", that we wanted to stay in the Entente first!
So, I am angry as you and I hope things will change.
I'm a part of French Army, I don't know what's happened, but we're sorry.
Hail eItaly \o/
@grizly: "you have serious problems guys. not to mention the part where you accused italian government to fight for france just to have a "personal" gain"
I told earlier Darkthur was a jerk, so don't even read his critics. He obviously doesn't talk in the name of France, but only for his d**khead.
As for the congress, I'd like to say we were preparing something for 2 days but it suddenly failed. So we all thought the attacks were postponed. But it didn't happen. And our President disn't tell us anything.
99% is not far from reality. The entire Army didn't know. The Congress didin't know. French citizens didn't know. Who knew? At least the head of the government I hope...
The lack of communication is obvious this month and the Congress already had a fight with the President about that issue. We all hope he'll understand and talk now.
tnx, finalvince and 1ECMANU9, for ur support!
FURIOUS FRENCH FROGGIES
regards from eItaly 😁
@Jebbidle: '99% is not far from reality. The entire Army didn't know. The Congress didin't know. French citizens didn't know. Who knew? At least the head of the government I hope...
The lack of communication is obvious this month and the Congress already had a fight with the President about that issue. We all hope he'll understand and talk now.'
I totally agree