The way forward... or does Indonesia know how to make friends?
Day 1,304, 04:35
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by Majester
The months have been interrupted briefly by a period of peace wherewe forged friendships with Chile and New Zealand in training wars and inconsequential back-stabs. Indonesia obviously felt left out and we're back into a cycle of abuse. I guess what we get for becoming complacent and assuming AngelDemon was gone forever.
The truth is, that Australia was just starting to recover and gain new citizens. Is the Indonesia aggression a deliberate attempt to genocide Australia or is it an accident of timing? I prefer to think its the latter since nobody wants to see eRepublik die. This forces and issue though: do we continue on the same path in the desperate hope that the cycle will stop repeating, or do we strive for a new sustainable direction?
Our choices are simple:
Indonesia does the unthinkable
a) Indonesia makes a gesture of good will to Australia in exchange for peace. They give us Maluku Islands in exchange for WA, SA, and Vic. This means a little pain to them to sooth a lot of our grief and righteous anger. It means we deal as potential partners instead of bitter rivals. It means Australia (and eRep) get the chance to grow instead of perpetuating our genocide and their loss of face internationally because they are too tied up in Australia to adequately support their allies. It means Indonesia defies blind nationalism is favour of taking a brave step towards a new world.
Indonesia negotiates in good faith
b) Indonesia returns SA, WA, and Vic and takes Pacifica and NT instead. Argentina does not need Pacifica for grain. Indonesia do. Indonesia and Argentina do still hold hands. We do not need NT for saltpeter, but we need WA for growth. Victoria's Aluminium is a loss to Indonesia, but such is the price of a guaranteed peace with a very belligerent neighbour and not being prepared to give up a home region but expecting it of us. This gives us room to grow with some small countries until we are ready to return to the world stage again. Our growth means eRepublik grows. Who knows, one day we could all be in the same alliance if both sides show they can behave. And what an alliance that could be if all the pacific unites under a red flag of honour and might.
Indonesia commits genocide
c) We keep bumping our heads and Australia dies. Every day we get wiped we lose more players. Every day we have fewer that 2/2 NRB we shrink as players bleed off. Australia is gasping. We have been since the 3 month PTO only to be kicked every time we stabilize. Pretty soon, there will be nobody left to to entertain Indonesia. Seems great now, until you remember that some of the most epic moments have between our nations. Indonesia can either appreciate our contribution, or spend the next few agonising months perpetually caught up in RW with us because, as they already know, Australia never backs down. Genocide is fun I hear - who care if it hurts the greater game or your reputation.
Indonesia, start learning to treat with us or be doomed to repeat the same boring cycle. You have options, none are unreasonable.
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great thoughts, mate.
I agree, we need to tactically build our country up and that means sucking in our pride and realising we cant have all of our country at the moment.
Some good suggestions and we need to realise that this war is destroying our player base and economy is up the shit because of the instability.
Majester saves! \o/
Great thoughts, mate. x2
i have to say great optimism but unfortunately that's all i believe it will be how long do you think Indo's will wait to try and wipe us again in a month's time when it's finished with everyone else if we keep this up we have a hope of the Indo's losing there powers because of the number attacking them.
This is just my opinion but i respect yours and i really hope this isn't just gonna be optimism for a month
well said Majester
let the healing start the indo aussy fighting has killed 2 many good people on both sides and its not doing either side any good to keep spending the money on RWs and then reconquering each other.
i have to say great optimism but unfortunately that's all i believe it will be how long do you think Indo's will wait to try and wipe us again in a month's time when it's finished with everyone else if we keep this up we have a hope of the Indo's losing there powers because of the number attacking them.
lol
every u backstab us u country always erase
learn from u history
carefuly with u strategic
this not movie
this game war never end
m4kus m4rk your country has stabbed us in the back as well as we have stabbed yours if your goverment is willing to forgive past aggressions we will forgive yours.
I forgive you..
Now time you to forgive me
You cant make agreements of any worth with thugs
Don't you realise that
Surely there is so many examples in history to show this
Just read the arrogant indo posts here to get an idea.
You are worried about losing new players
I am a new player & I am prepared to stick it out
what will drive me away is the gutlessness of our Govt
NOT eindo aggression
Demon War I forgive you.
Lousise great we need people willing to stick it out, but holding out and pissing on our neighbors that are more then happy to remove us from the map every week isnt productive and a waste of money and yes I understand they they have fucked us over more then once but so have our allied nations so why keep pissin on the people closes to us and start pissin on people on the other side of the world?
^ This to a point
M4rkus - were you actually around when some of this backstory went on? I joined in March 2009, which was after the initial perceived transgressions which led to eIndo supposedly "testing" the war module out on us.
But, when I joined the AIRRA was in full play. Whenever a RW was lost, eIndo would use the excuse that the government was supportive of the agreement, but there was a core group of eIndo fighters that disagreed and wanted to just keep kicking us down. So please don't talk to me about backstabbing. I was there at the time.
Eventually Aus got WA back - and as you may or may not know it was because of the actions of allies, albeit with the (secret) work of the CP at the time.
So, as stated here, both sides have done much to aggrieve the other. The question is whether we now move forward, or whether this current situation continues. Australia may be perceived as only being a prick in the eIndo heel. But, you can't deny it's an annoying one. Why not try to actually negotiate a worthwhile outcome for both sides this time?
Indonesia will and only take what she needs (the latest agreement)
d) Just like with eMalaysia, eSingapore, and ePhilippines, first eIndo will conquer all of ur regions (due to the NE mechanic) then will release all of the regions that she doesnt need thru RWs (NSW and QLD). In return, eIndo wont wipe ur country out of the map as long as there'll be no NE or RWs by ur countrymen. With peace treaty and MPP proposal from u, u will get NT and Tasman. hoping the alliance between the countries is sustainable, u might even get Victoria or a rent fee for Victoria.
let the unthinkable be left out, there wont be any region swap. be under no illusion. by urself, ure not as amusing nor entertaining as u think u are. u dont have the same bargaining position nor the good relation as eArgentina-eIndonesia. considering the gap in force of eAustralia-eIndonesia, the agreement was somewhat reasonable. that would be a great achievement of both Gov and ur MoFA (scottty).
if ure expecting an equal agreement between the countries, at least u should have the basics neede😛 make babybooms. for that, at the very least u will need a country that doesnt go on and off from the map for a certain period of time.
the problem is, it wont happen if ure still dwelling on the past.
Raepras - until your country is willing to give up one of it's on territories in the name of peace, you cannot be trusted.
What you are offering is a ransom note, NOT a deal for peace.
Good article Majester, I will raise one point that we did RW Victoria back before the outbreak of the last hostilities, I am assuming that was a breach of whatever treaty SC had made with them.
Indo are not fair dinkum.
@Mr Crumpets:
if ure not willing to try, then whatever the condition is u could never trust. it's not like ure trust-able in our eyes either. look what happened in the last agreement. but at least we're willing to try.
u might think it's not a deal of peace, but be realistic, u dont have the upper hand nor the equal stand for the agreement.
Try to erase eIndonesia, then you may ask for a deal.
This is a Indonesia Choose:
We Got WA,SA,& Vic And Let Other Regions back to u
and Promise to Indonesia dunno Back Stab, Clear~~
U Got Freedom, made Economical & Babyboom in U Country without Erased by Indonesia....
Just That We Need
More if we treaty Peace Or MPP with this Choose
Yap We Can Rebuild Aussy Soon 😁
(Remember Just Like eMalaysia 😁)
majester
you give three option:
1. indonesia do the unthinkable
2. good faith 3. genocide
i like your article but the ending sound bitter to me
"Indonesia, start learning to treat with us or be doomed to repeat the same boring cycle. You have options, none are unreasonable. "
we already want to do that, but you press the NE button?
so it is the australians who should learning to treat with us or be doomed. boring cycle? maybe yes, but is it painfull to us? no.
why fou you pick threating line-up to end your statements? suck up your pride and ask negotiation. and this time politely.
well well well, what a surprise...
Why would eIndonesia choose the first or the second option if eIndonesia can choose the third option?
simple,,
1. dont listen to any elder who said "eIndo do this in the past, eIndo do that.. bla bla bla "..
2. Put aside any idealism
3. Sat in comfee couch
4. Have coffee luwak and cigarette with you 😃
Then you can think clearly..
Try to erase eIndonesia, then you may ask for a deal. 2x
sory to say this,
but very easy to erase eAustralia
but we still think about ausralia community
that's why we offer some deal
so, the stronger get more, all of you must realize that 🙂
thanks
nice article
hey shut up INDO!! eAustralia will re FAIL!!
ugh... are you sure you want to attack us ?
ngpain di prcaya lgi
udh backstab brp x ni ozi
Al hikmah khairi rizal I hope you know that's part of our senate derping and opening Ne with indo right?
An agreement can only be happen if both side are equal
eIndonesia > eAustralia
eIndo is so kind, we offer a deal to eAustralia,
u should be grateful
you, people of eAustralia should learn from eMalaysia and eThailand.
well, it's your choice, eAustralian. be wiped or peace?
actually, i'm still believe you guys. so please pick peace and start a new relationship 😁
One reads these comments _ I think IRL the Nazis offered the UK somthing very similar a few decades ago.
geez what did the Britons say about Rome
"They create a desert & they call it peace"
Personally I would spit on the type of peace you are offering.
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