Presidential debate on dying babies - CDV/Fragreg offer to the table (UPDATE)
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by Carr De Vaux
(Update) In response to the angry, yeah, angry is a correct word, outburst from my fellow comrades from FUP, and for the viewing pleasure of all those who were not in the channel, here is the FULL UNABRIDGED irc log of which we debated about initially dying babies...before my dear 'friend' vikta decided to divert to the noveras-ww88 debate. I don't see how i have misquoted anyone. i was debating with nevven - so, his comments carried more weight.
FULL UNABRIDGED IRC LOG OF THE DEBATE
As for gen-tiger, i won't hide it. This IS a campaign article where i outlined my stand more clearly to tackle the dying babies issue. What do you expect? Pretend it to be an impartial 3rd party? Pretend that for unity, i don't want win? I do agree nevven have a point about the multi - i agreed during the debate, and i quoted him on that too. I did not try to be negative, but merely putting forth the positive side of my arguments.
As for Vikta - mate, i don't know what got into you for that 'rage' or 'outburst'. I did not misquote you or put it out of context. I don't deserved to be attacked personally nor insulted in the way you did. I put my ideas on how to make this eCountry more fun to everyone - i spend hours thinking,typing and doing my research on it - and this is the sort of attitude/BS i have to deal with? Honestly. Screw it. I shall not dignify your profanity with more rebuttals. You can eat cake.
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It is unfortunate that no one in the media reported a brief presidential candidates debate between myself, nevven, vikta and gen-tiger in the irc room yesterday. The topic we discussed/debated about what's about 'dying babies'. If you are a frequent reader of this newspaper, you would know that newbies, education and citizen retention have always been a strong passion of mine. Let's recap a little:
►4 days ago - the mystery of missing babies
►16 days ago - A question to the Social Minister with regards to newbies wellness
►23 days ago - Different e-characters for eMalaysians
►26 days ago - Gifting / Anti-wasteland private charity programme for newbies proposal
►2 months ago (first published 5-6 months ago) - Newbie guide 101 for level 5 and beyond updated!
Many others in months before that as well, including the award-winning (literally, thanks FUP!) CDV's Social/Education programme for eMalaysia (then called FRoSEA). Undoubtly, I can bring fresh ideas on the table. Yes, thus far, the implemention of the Education programme is still in its stillborn infancy. More work needed to be done towards completing more of this sort of useful guides/education modules. towards this, i am enlisting within my CP team a dedicated Education Minister (finally!).
Back to the debate yesterday, despite my attempts to explain my vision of an improved Social and Education ministry as well as how as govt/nation we can induce more activity/fun for citizen retention - the replies i got from nevven,Vikta and gen-tiger were:
DirtyVikta: imo there is nothing we can do about dying babies.
@nevvven: Many multis who are abandoned
@nevvven: but do you bring anything new to the tale? (table)
[img]http://daretodream.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c007f53ef0120a647aaf3970c-800wi[/img]
well, our babies are dying. the game as it is can be boring and there are only so much one group of people can do. My simple plan - the thrust of my presidency is hopefully to increase activity/fun in eMalaysia in such, babies who come along (from babyboom or not) will be retained. During the debate, i sort of outlined what my ideas are - but they are pending on the different people i am trying to recruit to the cause. The thrust of it is... eMalaysia gotta be FUN!!
how can we go about doing that? well, in addition to the excellent work done by the Social office currently (which I will attempt to improve), the idea is to set up infrastructure and guidances on what a newbie can do in eWorld.
The tentative plan is to increase activity via FOUR areas:
► 1. MILITARY
► 2. GOVERNMENT
► 3. PARTY POLITICS
► 4. MEDIA/eDBP/School of Journalism
► 5. BUSINESS and COOPERATIVES
As we are still developing these plans with people who are keen to work with me to make life in eMalaysia better (and more fun), i cannot elaborate too much at this stage. I will attempt to give one example.
Military
My plan is to continue the good effort of the present government, under the leadership of eXom7, pantherthug, liquid oxygen, natamhanjing and fragreg, to streamline our military and structure them into manageable smaller platoons/squadrons. The key difference though, is to utilise these supposedly functional structure of military, to generate activity internally within the military and as a nation.
Check out the Tuah Squadron, a brainchild of natamhanjing and me, during a random irc chat. the objective is to empower squadron leaders to setup in-game org as a mode of communication, as well as a hub of activity. Commands can be send out through org (making life much easier) and distribution of weapons can be handled through the same channel. In terms of increasing activity, squadrons are encouraged to use their own avatars and inter-platoon competitions will be organised to increase activity. For example: which platoon can have 5 members posting in a specific article/forum post...or something like that. These will be government or privately funded. Real military missions might be encouraged. For example, Tuah Squadron attempted to distribute order/weapons and tracked damage of its members during the Estonia defence and the South-Africa defence. Squads or newbies with highest damage for example, can be rewarded/honoured. My government, through military leaders' recommendation will institute an honour system, where medals /titles will be awarded for excellent performances/services.
With cooperation with the military training corp - graduates from the training squadron will be assigned to existing squad leaders. ANother feature i am thinking about is the compulsory drafting of newbies. i.e. under the leadership of pantherthug, we can train 2-3 co-trainers, in which ALL newbies beyond level 5 will be PMed and assigned to a platoon. this might involve some work, and i need the military support on such ideas. The concept behind this is to have very active platoon leaders to keep his/her members active/connected/involved through PMs and so forth.
Too ambitious? Maybe. Possible - only with your support and help! DPP, FUP, AC, PR ..and everyone!x Support me, vote for me!
2nd issue (briefly) that nevven brought up was the placement of Q5 Hospital in Sarawak, and he noted that "we need a vote on that in congress asap". It's true, we have not voted on it..but the discussion were started not long after the Indo peace deal with spykerman, nicholas2000, fragreg all making very good points/reasoning for and against. nevven might not notice - that 4 days ago, I have put the vote proposal up in the Congress main hall. So, congressmen - please do your duties and vote on the proposal to place a Q5 hospital in Sarawak.
Hail eMalaysia!
Vote for CDV for Presidency.
ps: If you are DPP, a quick hint for you. My first avatar is Emmanuel Chriqui.
At your service, (sedia berkhidmat)
Carr de Vaux
5th term DPP Congressman for Peninsular Malaysia
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FULL UNABRIDGED IRC LOG OF THE DEBATE
As for gen-tiger, i won't hide it. This IS a campaign article where i outlined my stand more clearly to tackle the dying babies issue. What do you expect? Pretend it to be an impartial 3rd party? Pretend that for unity, i don't want win? I do agree nevven have a point about the multi - i agreed during the debate, and i quoted him on that too. I did not try to be negative, but merely putting forth the positive side of my arguments.
As for Vikta - mate, i don't know what got into you for that 'rage' or 'outburst'. I did not misquote you or put it out of context. I don't deserved to be attacked personally nor insulted in the way you did. I put my ideas on how to make this eCountry more fun to everyone - i spend hours thinking,typing and doing my research on it - and this is the sort of attitude/BS i have to deal with? Honestly. Screw it. I shall not dignify your profanity with more rebuttals. You can eat cake.
=========================
It is unfortunate that no one in the media reported a brief presidential candidates debate between myself, nevven, vikta and gen-tiger in the irc room yesterday. The topic we discussed/debated about what's about 'dying babies'. If you are a frequent reader of this newspaper, you would know that newbies, education and citizen retention have always been a strong passion of mine. Let's recap a little:
►4 days ago - the mystery of missing babies
►16 days ago - A question to the Social Minister with regards to newbies wellness
►23 days ago - Different e-characters for eMalaysians
►26 days ago - Gifting / Anti-wasteland private charity programme for newbies proposal
►2 months ago (first published 5-6 months ago) - Newbie guide 101 for level 5 and beyond updated!
Many others in months before that as well, including the award-winning (literally, thanks FUP!) CDV's Social/Education programme for eMalaysia (then called FRoSEA). Undoubtly, I can bring fresh ideas on the table. Yes, thus far, the implemention of the Education programme is still in its stillborn infancy. More work needed to be done towards completing more of this sort of useful guides/education modules. towards this, i am enlisting within my CP team a dedicated Education Minister (finally!).
Back to the debate yesterday, despite my attempts to explain my vision of an improved Social and Education ministry as well as how as govt/nation we can induce more activity/fun for citizen retention - the replies i got from nevven,Vikta and gen-tiger were:
DirtyVikta: imo there is nothing we can do about dying babies.
@nevvven: Many multis who are abandoned
@nevvven: but do you bring anything new to the tale? (table)
[img]http://daretodream.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c007f53ef0120a647aaf3970c-800wi[/img]
well, our babies are dying. the game as it is can be boring and there are only so much one group of people can do. My simple plan - the thrust of my presidency is hopefully to increase activity/fun in eMalaysia in such, babies who come along (from babyboom or not) will be retained. During the debate, i sort of outlined what my ideas are - but they are pending on the different people i am trying to recruit to the cause. The thrust of it is... eMalaysia gotta be FUN!!
how can we go about doing that? well, in addition to the excellent work done by the Social office currently (which I will attempt to improve), the idea is to set up infrastructure and guidances on what a newbie can do in eWorld.
The tentative plan is to increase activity via FOUR areas:
► 1. MILITARY
► 2. GOVERNMENT
► 3. PARTY POLITICS
► 4. MEDIA/eDBP/School of Journalism
► 5. BUSINESS and COOPERATIVES
As we are still developing these plans with people who are keen to work with me to make life in eMalaysia better (and more fun), i cannot elaborate too much at this stage. I will attempt to give one example.
Military
My plan is to continue the good effort of the present government, under the leadership of eXom7, pantherthug, liquid oxygen, natamhanjing and fragreg, to streamline our military and structure them into manageable smaller platoons/squadrons. The key difference though, is to utilise these supposedly functional structure of military, to generate activity internally within the military and as a nation.
Check out the Tuah Squadron, a brainchild of natamhanjing and me, during a random irc chat. the objective is to empower squadron leaders to setup in-game org as a mode of communication, as well as a hub of activity. Commands can be send out through org (making life much easier) and distribution of weapons can be handled through the same channel. In terms of increasing activity, squadrons are encouraged to use their own avatars and inter-platoon competitions will be organised to increase activity. For example: which platoon can have 5 members posting in a specific article/forum post...or something like that. These will be government or privately funded. Real military missions might be encouraged. For example, Tuah Squadron attempted to distribute order/weapons and tracked damage of its members during the Estonia defence and the South-Africa defence. Squads or newbies with highest damage for example, can be rewarded/honoured. My government, through military leaders' recommendation will institute an honour system, where medals /titles will be awarded for excellent performances/services.
With cooperation with the military training corp - graduates from the training squadron will be assigned to existing squad leaders. ANother feature i am thinking about is the compulsory drafting of newbies. i.e. under the leadership of pantherthug, we can train 2-3 co-trainers, in which ALL newbies beyond level 5 will be PMed and assigned to a platoon. this might involve some work, and i need the military support on such ideas. The concept behind this is to have very active platoon leaders to keep his/her members active/connected/involved through PMs and so forth.
Too ambitious? Maybe. Possible - only with your support and help! DPP, FUP, AC, PR ..and everyone!x Support me, vote for me!
2nd issue (briefly) that nevven brought up was the placement of Q5 Hospital in Sarawak, and he noted that "we need a vote on that in congress asap". It's true, we have not voted on it..but the discussion were started not long after the Indo peace deal with spykerman, nicholas2000, fragreg all making very good points/reasoning for and against. nevven might not notice - that 4 days ago, I have put the vote proposal up in the Congress main hall. So, congressmen - please do your duties and vote on the proposal to place a Q5 hospital in Sarawak.
Hail eMalaysia!
Vote for CDV for Presidency.
ps: If you are DPP, a quick hint for you. My first avatar is Emmanuel Chriqui.
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This is absolutely disgusting. A new low even from you.
You quoted, out of context, one line out of my entire argument that probably spanned the entire page. You didn't even respond to that line when we were speaking, I bet your greedy eyes lit up when you found the chance to make a one-liner that you can use to further your political aims, am I right?
The fact is there are some newbies that absolutely cannot be saved, the ones that do not reconfirm their emails, the ones that do not even log in for the first time. But instead, you decided that, why not used it to gain some much needed political mileage?
DISGUSTING! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. I guess this is what Malaysia will get if this underhanded, Machiavellian, dishonest, and dishonorable, poor excuse of a politician is electe😛 nauseating partisan politics that will spew out of every orifice of his administration.
I sit here asking myself, how can a person with such impossibly low standards of morality and national unity be endorsed by the second largest political party in eMalaysia? Has the DPP sunk to such repulsive and sickening levels? I guess I should have never expected anything more.
To me, you, and this article is sickeningly repugnant! Shame on you, CDV! Shame!!!
Vikta
Well it would be easier for people to see who is right if someone can present the whole chat log 😁
we should try to put a new hospital at Sarawak..
it's really important to newbie's there..
i have mention this things a few months ago but there were only few suggestion(vote) on it..
About military issue,that a good idea to encourage newbie's to fight more and more in war so that they can grow faster and help eMalaysia to defend itself. (by giving them a gift as a reward).
But,i hope that this debate will not effect this country.
How we want to have peace if we argue with each other?
CDV has announced that he want to established new mixture government if he win the PP election.
But,if this thing keep going,i assure you that his objective will never happen..
vote..
Vikta, cool it. Whatever you find offensive is no excuse for the language you are using.
giving up so soon Mr. CDV?
this is a little bit contrary to your shout 🙁
Talking about me???hahahahah
VIKTA! CONTAIN YOURSELF!
I will not stand for these insults flung against Carr.
"10.1 Citizens that are managers or creators of organizations may also face penalties for the breach of the previous rules. "
Posting through an organization will not save you. I am disappointed in you, Vikta.
nicholas2000: I was posting from my OR because I don't login to my citizen account in libraries. I will not sit by allowing someone to spread malicious and dishonest lies about me.
I will not sit by while you insult Carr.
"😉ISGUSTING! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. I guess this is what Malaysia will get if this underhanded, Machiavellian, dishonest, and dishonorable, poor excuse of a politician is electe😛 nauseating partisan politics that will spew out of every orifice of his administration. "
"Has the DPP sunk to such repulsive and sickening levels? I guess I should have never expected anything more. "
I will also not stand for such insults towards my party, which are baseless.
@CDV: "As for gen-tiger, i won't hide it. This IS a campaign article where i outlined my stand more clearly to tackle the dying babies issue. What do you expect? Pretend it to be an impartial 3rd party? Pretend that for unity, i don't want win? I do agree nevven have a point about the multi - i agreed during the debate, and i quoted him on that too. I did not try to be negative, but merely putting forth the positive side of my arguments."
Yup, but if u have put up all these in place before we have start making noise it would be good. But sorry by select the exception of it have display your character of using other people to achieve your goals. If you have such confident with your program that will win the trust of the citizen, why you will need to do that? Do it fair and square is more then enough for you. Isn't that is the CDV's style?
Please Vikta, with all the crap being spouted in the top 5 articles about nevven and FUP being great and awesome. You have no room to insult Carr like that, whether he pulled something out of context or not.
This election was supposed to be clean, but certain members(not from only one party) have forced it to become dirtier. I'm glad this only lasts about 3 days, there's no telling what might come up if it lasted longer.
Politics... Lucky there is only 2 elections in a month that concern the whole country.
Yes this is really disgusting. I read the chat log. The question of "dying babies" aka "why cant we rise our active population" is the most important question in eMalaysian political life. Its can not be shrug away with saying "here are too many multies". Its not to be suffered to turn this debate into presentation of personal wounds. Shame on you who participated in this debate!
Im sure that who are working on baby booms or in mentor system are working hard. But here are no achievments. So we must rethink our routins, we must try new ideas, methodes in this part of the game. This is about our belowed eMalaysias future. Please keep your heads cool!
😁shbalage- you think the article was bout anyone personal??? no. I was using the debate to explain my platform for retaining the babies... but at last. no one see them. everyone sees what they wanna see
good luck 😁
make more babies, we got unlimited juice.. ehem