on the Oranje Naussau medals given by Auggustus
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by Daniel Parker
The CP in my view took a way too liberal interpretation of the medal requirements. I really wish all the guys who were awarded great medals for all they did for our country, but the requirements are there for a reason. To make it absolutely clear for why this medal was deserved, and not to shed any doubt whatshowever on the honour such a medal brings. So hereby my plead to the CP to revert or alter where possible the last round of Oranje Nassau medals.
Oranje Nassau, Grand-Knight
medal requirement:
Outlandish grande performance whose actions helped result into a babyboom, or any other similar essential and unique contribution which secured the longevity of the country for the future. (needs a public Presidential/Prime-Ministerial statement)
Auggy wrote:
Kixtart – Contributions for maintaining the forums and continued service as a community elder
the description clearly says babyboom or similar unique contribution, continued service is an honorable thing, but it certainly is not unique in the sense to be one thing. Also it's way too vague. Revert back to Silver please
Auggy wrote:
Heikanu - Contributions for maintaining the forums and continued service as a community elder
see how unique that was? 2 people do a unique same thing? not that unique apparently. revert back to silver please
Auggy wrote:
Artemivanov – Continued service to the community and many terms of continued and dedicated service
Don't give out medals with such a vague description! there are clear examples in de requirement! please revert to what he had (bronze?) or come up with something clearer for silver
Auggy wrote:
Garmr – Continued dedication and service in the community
again, too vague! please revert to bronze or come up with something clear for silver
Oranje Nassau, Commandeur
medal requirement:
Extraordinary contribution to the community of the Netherlands (e.g. half year being an forum-admin, programming API´s or another significant contribution that intensified the countries community) (needs a public Presidential/Prime-Ministerial statement)
Auggy wrote:
Elgorro – Contributions in the media, politics as well as dedicated service
media? that's bronze! politics? this is a civilian medal! politics don't count here! we have a whole set of medals for that called the Orde van de Nederlandse Leeuw! Give him bronze for civil media contributions!
And again why such a vague description? the requirements clearly shows examples!
Oranje Nassau, Knight
medal requirement:
Outstanding contribution to the media-landscape* or community of the Netherlands (*congress, government and political party and such media contributions are excluded for this medal) (needs a public Presidential/Prime-Ministerial statement)
Auggy wrote:
Van Spijck – Contributions to the community and his dedicated service throughout the community
Sure this one seems deserved, but it's still an utterly vague description! Be more specific. Why was he given this medal? For his civil contributions? name those then!
Before any starts moaning about my own Oranje Nassau silver medal:
Yes! I know my own commandeur description is utterly vague too (thank AI for that [not]), still I clearly requested it for setting up the whole the medals program.
So Mr. President, please give this a second thought, and reevaluate the medals you have just given out. We all appreciate what Heikanu, Garmr, Artem, kix, van spijck and elgorro has done for our country, but they should get the right medals for that. You still have tomorrow to change this. If you don't this will stay an everlasting debate for sure, and it will definitely bring down the acceptance (and honour) these medals brought, and it might split our community long-lastingly.
Daniel Parker
-the guy who made the medals and defined their requirements
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"Daniel Parker -the guy who made the medals and defined their requirements " ... and the guy who holds their feet to fire. Go Daniel, Go!
I agree that these medals are given away too easily.
Can't be that hard to change a image and the description of it. However it's also a bit unfair that some other of us received those medals in the same way...
It's a tough subject, these given medals. I agree with djirtsdew: these medals were given away too easily. All people listed above deserve a medal, but the distribution of them sure was a bit 'vague'.
voted!
Ach dan kan ik ook weer opnieuw gaan bitchen over 2 anderen die paar maanden terug medals hebben gekregen. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-groeten-uit-renesse-1883776/1/20
@ epix je hebt gelijk, dat zijn civiele medailes, dus die kunnen niet vanwege politieke contributies gegeven worden...
Dank je Daniel, nu kunnen we er samen over bitchen 🙂
I strongly agree with this. I was shocked to see the medals handed out so easily tbh. I spent 2 months publishing articles every week and managed to get the Bronze medal, i was so happy.
Garmr gets GOLD because he is a forum moderator? oh right..
PLEASE FOLLOW MEDAL REQUIREMENTS!!!
IMPEACH!!
Hi,
Regards the guy who implemented the medal mod ;- )
@missingno It is issued to garmr because of services and contacts he has made for the entire wellbeing for the community too many to reference here. All recipients recieved the medals as a result of going beyond the call of duty and ensuring for community stability and growth.
yes, that is all very nice Auggy, and we do love them for that. But that is simply not what it says on the medal requirements.
Thanks for this article, DP! On the medals issued to me and broersje: if revoking our medals is necessary to be able to revoke the others, then please do. I am highly unwilling to become the center of a dispute over something like a medal. However, ElGorro's article stated that they were issued because of (re)writing the Lawbook, from a civil committee. If that task is considered political now, I fear anything done for the community is political. Where do we draw the line? That's something we should decide on first.
how civil was that committee is the question then? was it made up from multiple parties and with people not already all the time in congress (which is the political institute for making laws)? it could nullify it's 'politicalness', but then the medals should've been distributed evenly, I don't know if that's the case.
Yes everything can be argued to have political sides, myself I would not have given these medals if it wasn't clearly enough a civilian task, which I do doubt about in the case of the CRAP committee.
What does ElGorro himself think? I honestly can't have an opinion on the matter of a medal issued to my own person. All I can say is that I considered it an a-political job.
Some facts: CRAP was officially constituted of broersje, Garmr, Mr. Sphere and myself (with a CLN member being asked to join, but not responding), in other words, from all major parties. Almost all work, with the exception of the invaluable advise and feedback from Garmr, was done by broersje and me.
''unique contribution which secured the longevity of the country for the future''
Well, you maybe should have made this a bit more clear in your description. In essence most things are a unique contribution, so anyone that contributes to our country not being wiped off the map would suffice to qualify for this medal.