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Berengar, you havent obviously gotten the point.

I asked
1. What is the official position on the occupation of Canadian territories? Does your government admit that this is an imperialistic endeavor, or do you believe it to be defensive in some way. If it is the latter, please explain. Is it just for the "lulz"?

you responde😛
"1. Current eHungarian position on the aforementioned matter is: territories occupied in North America of course have strategic and economic importance. This importance naturally differs in these regions, thus some have defensive value. It's not typical for eHungarian strategy to hold regions 'just for the lulz'."

So obviously by your answer, it is for imperialistic purposes.

I aske😛

2. Does Hungary have a public list of countries that it intends to occupy in the future, or is this not available for public consumption?

You responde😛
"2. eHungary does not have such a list, nor did she ever intended to occupy countries totally. We would like to leave the opportunity for every RL nation to be able to hold original regions if that's possible strategically at the time being."

The key word here is "totally'. Sorry, but Canada is not Australia, we arent going to give away a region long term to secure another.. As other invaders have seen eventually we will take everything by force.

Dear friend at first when i read your post at the forums I thought you have gotten the point but it's obvious now we need some clarifications 🙂

first: i truely believe your comment belongs to the forums so we should have discussed it there. but as you copied it here:

1.Maybe I speak a different dialect you have problems to understand, but I believe my answer made obvious it is for STRATEGIC purposes. Which surely is quite obvious for everyone anyway.

2. You don't make any sense. However I hope you did read the article above, and did misunderstand it deliberately for some kind of shady propaganda reasons. If that's the case I appreciate your efforts but you still have a lot to learn.

It was an interesting comment anyway I really enjoyed it. So keep up the good work.

cheers

@ Berengar,

While I appreciate your personal professionalism, I cannot rationally assume that your government is now suddenly interested in anything but itself, contrary to its well established behavior. It would be presumptuous and dangerous on my part (to say the least) to assume the Government of Hungary had intentions that were anything but contrary to the welfare of the Citizens of Canada.

Actions speak louder than words, and the Government of Hungary's actions toward Canada has been a continuous attempt to attack our democracy via Political Take Overs whenever opportunity permitted. Furthermore, the utter disregard for our democracy, which perverted outcomes of our Congressional elections twice, was then followed up the collusion of the Government in Hungary in an imperialistic campaign against our sovereignty and freedom.

This is not your personal fault, but your government's. I understand you may be unaware about the long and repeated injustices committed by your Government against our people, and I hope you can muster the courage to vocally oppose the self-interested ambitions of your government.

To conclude,
Unfortunately your government's misguided policies, actions and choices of friends have depleted your Government's credibility. I hope, Berengar, that as a citizen you would cherish your country's good name and seek to fix the error at its route; that is, inside the policy making system of Government of eHungary. Once that is restored to a policy of justice instead of imperialism, and demonstrated by good acts towards your neighbors, then the day may come when our two nations can converse as upstanding members of the New World community.

Well, William, I guess the diplomacy department just got owned.

While I will offer a personal welcome to you, Berengar, I think our Prime Minister's words say all that need be said on the matter of Hungary's entreaties for a new spirit of relations with Canada. It will become clear if not already, that nothing short of the complete surrender of all occupied territories in Canada and the US by Hungary is even worth discussing.

Enjoy your stay in Canada...

Cheers,
AR1ARX

...and I will add to what AR1ARX has said by saying, at no cost to us. We are not paying for territory that is ours, that you apparently now say is a regrettable and unfortunate situation. If it is so unfortunate, get out, we certainly won't stop you.

Oh yes, you also have more of our territory than simply Saskachewan.

"3. We are also open to negotiations on the situation of the occupied regions. However mutual trust and respect of the negotiating partners is crucial for a satisfactory result.This road may be long and bumpy but we believe we could work together to create these foundations of cooperation. Of course to achieve it, a change in attitudes is necessary on both sides."

I laughed good when i read this, how can you possably expect us to trust and respect you after you have invaded our country and attempted PTO's.

"a satisfactory result" the only thing that will satisfy 99.999999999% of canadians is the return of ALL eCanada/eUSA regions for ZERO payment.

perhaps if you give all regions back for free we might be able to start building better relations, untill then **** off(i assume you know what i mean by ***😉

P.S. im am in no form of government im just a regular citizen of eCanada but i can say with confidence i am not alone when i say

return all regions of eCanada/eUSA for free no exception, then and only then is there a possability of better relations.

I believe William Duncan and others posting here have stated the sentiment of eCanadians.

+1 for Booleus and WD

My 2 cents... eHungary can kiss my e-ass.

GC is pure evil. Negotiations with pure evil can only result in more evil.

5. eCanada emphasized the territorial claims in the press, but no steps have been taken in the negotiations yet. Hungary has created the conditions for discussion, we are still waiting for eCanadian government to contact us officially.


So wait? My work so far is nothing? Darn oooh wait I am not an official.

Good sir, I am not like my fellow Canadian brothers and sisters in one aspect, not only is this regrettable situation your country’s fault, you also owe us a great deal of gold to pay for the damage to our infrastructure.

So if I may suggest return all of our territories, leave 3500 gold and then we can talk about how you can repay the rest of the world for destruction you have caused.

Until then there is no dialogue and no conditions have been met for any talks. Do not get too comfortable you will be leaving very sson.

''2. eHungary finds regrettable this unfortunate situation with eCanada, and since there was no ehistorical prelude to it, we hope that this situation is temporary.''

Haha, they find it regrettable, they must be dead-filled with regret with all the region they control all over the world!

Yeah and don't worry it is temporary, just like Romania, every single empire will fall in due time, it might not be today but eventually, we will take back our region!

"4. It is an open secret that eHungary is willing to discuss the position of Saskachewan region, and these negotiations may mark the future directions."

I expect you want us to pay for them just like Russia had to pay to get back her regions. NUTS.

Berengar, the only reason i commented on what is already in the public forums, is because between your comments and this article, you have made it clear, Hungary took those regions for strategic (imperialist) purposes, and wishes us to give them a few of them long term now... I'm not sure how anyone has to learn anything to make that very clear to anyone who read this article, or has any idea about the Hungarian side of negotiations to date.

BTW, france and iran tried to make similar demands, ask them how that went

Hungarian will fall! Mark my words

Sorry, but paying for our own territory is something Canada doesn't do. Taking what's our back through war is much funner for both sides, wouldn't you agree? After all, PEACE members, often from Hungary, like to claim that the war is purely for fun. Why would you want to end it 😉

~hyuu~

nuts

How about this for some negotiations...

FOOK OFF, eh?

Canada is not like Australia but Hungary *IS* like the Romanian Empire. Sad fact, Jack. You became your enemy. It isn't "regretable" that you hold Canadian regions, it is INEVITABLE after you region-swapped to get them, installed hospitals and DS and funded mass migration. Crocodile tears from a Hungarian, we all feel so sorry for your guilt. 😛

So... What would you like to negotiate in public?

Hungary is not getting permission to stay.
Hungary is not getting a contract.
Hungary wants to get paid?

I'll give you 13 CAD and a Candy bar in exchange for Manitoba. That's damn near the best offer you're going to get.

Occupying powers which increase citizen settlement by 1000%, deploy Q5 hospitals and Q5 DS' clearly have no intention of "giving back" occupied regions.

Don't try and sell us the hooker with the heart of gold.

hehe, wonder if he has gotten the point yet? We do not intend to let them keep our provinces.

NUTS! To you eHungary
We will take back what is ours.

Berengar,
I'll give you safe passage through the Arctic ice if you and the rest of your Huns agree to leave.

Mr Ambassador,
Most eCanadians feel that our best chance of complete national restoration is on the battlefield and not through a series of useless negotiations with your government.

As much ad I'd like to, I'm afraid I can not answer every frustrated comment like how you'll take back your territories. You will get them back eventually, that's no question.

However I appreciate every relevant comment. There were some ppl I highly respect, so I managed to talk these over with Booleus and William.
But also I feel I have to reply to nea milosu: I personally appreciated your work as the MoFA, but you must understand Hungarian representatives did find it confusing that during your discussion with Tomi_ur your country attacked Saskachewan..

You are still welcome to post any questions here or the Embassy
cheers

Berengar

@jimbo74:

I personally respect your feelings. So I mentioned William if I can not arrange a meeting between our MoFAs I'd appreciate an article responding to mine in the media as the official answer of your government.

B.

Negotiate with the barrel of my gun.

In the interests of official bilingualism: Nuts/Merde!

I honestly can't see eHungary getting anything more from us than the gold that it would take to launch 3 more attacks.

Get out of my couny imperialist.

If you know what I mean. 😉

Ok, internal politicking aside (which is about a helpful as a eHungarian in a eCanadian territory), and a disgrace aswell.

Sask was offered as soon as eHungary took it over, in what I presume was an attempt for eHungary to look less like the aggressors, just give it eCanada back, or if you want rid of it so much give it to the eUK and let us take it off them.

Simple solution, eHungary can get out with out having to lose any face.

It costs nothing to be polite and I would recommend that eCanada attend talks while preparing for war.

While I whole heartedly agree with the sentiments of all my fellow Canadians, I do appreciate that there is a civilized response from the Hungarian side. Thank you for that Berengar, though that is the only positive thing I have to say about this situation.

how about this for negotiations:

leave.

WE are not like Australia indeed.

There can be NO long term plans for Hungary's Canadian regions.

I am sorry, but we will get our regions back.

I'm not sorry at all Alaricus.

We'll negotiate once your asses are freezing in the Atlantic.

So much words to say so little...

I'de give eHungary a gift to get our territories back: a big freakin' wooden horse, if you open your gates, it's yours to keep.

And yes, it's made of CANADIAN lumber.

I know this is not very relevant but why is he in Switzerland?

"..."

There can only be one answer for that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej0r9B6sUQI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej0r9B6sU[..]6sUQI

nothing pulls this eNation together than guys like this -- Thanks eHungary!

Hungary would be well advised to exit Canada in exchange for peace. If we are forced to eject Hungarian occupation troops by force, the state of war will remain in effect, which could have consequences in the future.

Many Canadians feel that paying a dime to recapture territories only encourages unjustified aggression, which has negative results not only for Canada but for the entire free world. We feel our taxes and our government's strategic and diplomatic efforts are best spent fighting occupation than appeasing the occupiers.

Politeness can neither excuse nor hide evil. We will fight.

If you want to play Diplomacy,
Go back home, and we will see...
But for now, we have a taste
For prairie wheat, so will not waste
Too much more time before we take
Our province back, so we can bake
A loaf or two for hungry men...
And for dessert? Why Hungary then!

1. "Hi, we are sending an "ambassador" to "negotiate" the terroritories we have taken.

-> that is supposed to make this alright? Let me send a "friend" to take "protection money" from you, sounds good?

2. Absence of a precedent does not make something that is wrong, being anymore right. Maybe it does for stealing cars, but we are not talking about cars, are we?

3. What is there to negotiate? Conquering a region then asking for gold in exchange is called extortion. You can send this link to your ePresident : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion." target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion.

Better yet, just to make sure it is not a question of "dialect" and that you can understand it, I translated it for you : Zsarolás.

4. "willing to discuss". Let me just hold my laughter. Willing to discuss would've been a trade negotiation between both countries for resources. I may be naïve, but why does the presence of a hospital/def sys has anything to do with the rightful return of a sovereign nations land? It either IS or IS NOT your land.

5. Lastly but not least. You say that our MoFA has a lot to learn and yet you go and negotiate in a public forum?... Impressive

why does wiki have no extortion page?

Hey John I'll put down another 13 CAD down to help, don't tell them that at first though.


As long as eHungary holds eCanadian regions they are our enemy. The only negotiation can be your complete surrender because we've already shown the world we will get back what is ours. Beavers, Polar Bears, Hot Chicks on Cold Icebergs... You don't stand a chance.

@ Master36029 and the rest of eRep...

I boobed and there is a "period" at the end of the link

Extortion period does not exist. Just extortion, no period 🙂
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion

NO money for the enemy, WD
you better not screw this up

They can have our bullets instead

Canada, forever
Canada, FTW!

+1 "NUTS!"