NWO & eCroatia: hostages of a hostile minority?
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Nalaja
A possible Central-European cooperation (NWO) assumes peace between eCroatia and eSerbia. A recent 'No' at the clear Natural Enemy voting in eCroatia, however, might jeopardize the whole process. It is done by the minority of the eCroatian congress.
Peace between eCroatia ('natural' ally of ePoland) and eSerbia ('natural' ally of eHungary) is a must for a new Central European cooperation, a dream of many players in ePoland and eHungary. Peace talks opened between the two countries. As eCroatia and eSerbia are not only at war but were forming a Natural Enemy (NE) pair, for peace proposal, the NE status have to be removed at both sides. These proposals were made simultaneously at the Congresses in Zagreb and Beograd. While the Serbian voting resulted YES, the Croatian congress refused to remove the NE status. Now eCroatia has 10% advantage in the conflict. To save the situation and the reputation of eCroatia, another proposal was made to set eMontenegro as NE instead of eSerbia, but two hours before its voting period, it seems to be failed (NE settings need 66% majority at votings). It seems that the community of eSerbian players are more settled with the possible peace with the Croats than vice versa.
These proposals had majority in the congress of eCroatia but not 66% majority. Can these 17 congressmen, angry with eSerbia, torpedoing the New World Order and keep eSerbia and eCroatia in a war, a more harder one than before?
While the minority of the eCroatian parliament holds the NWO process in hostage, its other players can act to solve the situation. Peace can be accepted only in the base of the original regions. In the Serbo-Croat war, all sides are supposed to lose offensive battles, if they are on the basis of the NWO. The possible allies have to act similarly, if they are on the basis of the NWO.
Now the minority of the Croatian parliament made a hostile decision that questioned the possibility of mutual confidence. If the other members of the possible NWO cooperation, especially from the present EDEN side, are still willing this new formation, it is time to start some heavy diplomatic action. NWO can be temporarily made without eCroatia (it cannot be a long-term solution!) but if the confidence in Beograd is finally eliminated, there is another year with the well-habitual frames. Is it worth?
MAGYARUL
Az új szövetség és Horvátország egy parlamenti kisebbség fogságában
A leendő közép-európai szövetség számára elengedhetetlen Szerbia és Horvátország között legalább a háború lezárása. A mostani "Nem" szavazat Horvátországban a Natural Enemy státus lezárására az egész folyamatot veszélyezteti. A dolog a horvát parlament kisebbségén múlik.
A béke Horvátország (a lengyelek "természetes" szövetségese) és Szerbia (a mi "természetes" szövetségesünk) között feltétlenül szükséges ahhoz az együttműködéshez, amelyről a lengyel és magyar játékosok többsége álmodik. A két ország közt meg is kezdődtek a béketárgyalások. Mivel azonban Szerbia és Horvátország nem egyszerűen háborúban áll, de egymást "természetes ellenségnek" (Natural Enemy; NE) is jelölték, a békéhez az NE-státus kölcsönös törlése az első kötelező lépés. A javaslatokat egyidőben Zágrábban és Belgrádban is beterjesztették. Míg azonban a szerb szavazás meggyőző többséggel sikerrel zárult, a horvát parlament elutasította a javaslatot. Ennek eredményeként most Horvátország 10% előnyhöz jutott a közvetlen csatákban. Hogy a helyzetet és Horvátország hírnevét mentsék, egy új javaslat Szerbia helyett Montenegrót nevezi meg természetes ellenségként, ami azonban szintén nem kapja meg a szükséges kétharmados többséget. Úgy tűnik, a szerb közösség inkább hajlana a megbékélésre, mint a horvátok.
A horvát szavazásokon megvolt ugyan a többség, de a kétharmad nem. Vajon meg tudja-e torpedózni 17 Szerbiára dühös horvát képviselő az új kooperációt? Kialakul-e egy, még az eddiginél is keményebb háború a két ország között?
Míg a horvát parlament kisebbsége túszul ejti az új szövetség kialakulási folyamatát, a polgárok tenni tudnak a szövetségért. A béke nyilván az eredeti régiók alapján képzelhető el. A szerb-horvát háborúban mindkét félnek a támadások elvesztésére és a saját területek megvédésére kell koncentrálnia a probléma gyors megoldásáig, már amennyiben támogatják az új szövetséget. A leendő többi szövetséges országnak is eszerint kellene ütnie.
A horvát parlament kisebbsége egy nyilvánvalóan ellenséges lépést tett, amely megkérdőjelezi az amúgy is gyenge lábakon álló kölcsönös bizalom csíráit. Amennyiben a leendő szövetség más államai, elsősorban Horvátország mostani szövetségesei továbbra is az együttműködés hívei, legfőbb ideje, hogy bevessék diplomáciájukat a helyzet megoldására. Az új szövetség átmenetileg Horvátország nélkül is megalakítható (hosszabb távon ez azért nem megoldás!), de ha Belgrád végképp elveszti a bizalmat a horvátok felé, akkor egy újabb évet tölthetünk a jól megszokott keretek között. Megéri?
(Honfitársaim, ha lehet, kerüljük a szájkaratét az árpádkockásokkal. Elvileg egy szövetségbe készülünk.)
Comments
1st!
vote!
Vote, nice article as usually!
Happy New Year eHungary!
P.S. This article is propaganda fail.
Hell yeah!
NWO in Progress! V+S
Atea are you one of the seventeen congressmen?
Kind of scr**ed off your plans ..yeah ?
sorry, but not supported
Phoenix +ePoland is called the New World Order ? Nice rebranding dudes :😃:
phoenix propaganda
Of course propaganda. In the eWorld the most of articles are propaganda. Your comment ("phoenix propaganda") is an propaganda too.😃
Poland should put presure on Croatia, and Croatian goverment should be consistent in there actions. They should publish articles where they explain what they have in mind with arguments.
Phoenix propaganda
Phoenix is dead
related, short comment
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ecroatia-xd1-1621486/1/20
Does someone think that Croatia and Serbia will be in PEACE(in every meaning)?
@slobodanmanak
poles to put pressure on us for what?
because we will not sign a short-term peacewith serbia.
which would let them to take the necessary regions and build economy to the max.after that attack us...short-term peaceis not an option...
i was be on your irc channels and i see that...
@Frutek666: Another proof that at least some of you can't think about future, only they're our enemies, they'll destroy us if we let them in peace for a while. Because of people like you, new world order won't happen...
minority? : )))
bunch of amateurs..
better die than be slave to Hungarians!
Very Good.
Voted.
Its very simple let Polish goverment presure Croatian goverment by not signing MPP with them,and very soon many Croats will start to think in the right way,this way Croat players know Poland along with Romania and EDEN will cover them so they act like a little child,its all about complex from RL,they cant get victory there,they cant get victory here so its frustrating to them...XD
As I said solution is very simple ePoland decline MPP with Croats for short time(until they come to their sence)and we(eSerbia,eHungary,ePoland)start making NWO,and very soon Croats will knock on door..
lol, its not minority, 70-80% of croatian is against it, visible from articles and from public referendum (your nick is visible there, so its not like in congress where many players vote them self in with multies...)
this pathetic propaganda will only increase that number, please bring back Zoli...
also an alliance that would exclude romania,spain, greece,finland... would never be accepted in croatia
@sasa55555 that is not just "presure", it's ultimatum. A best friend doesn't use these unfair tools. An ultimatum usually is a casus beli, not an ally advice.
the only reason you are forcing so called "new world order" is that hungary and serbia lost almost all of their allies, who finaly realized they are only used for securing interests of those two countries, now you wanna hide from their revenge by trying to destroy EDEN
news hint for you, while you were using brazil,bulgaria,italy, scandinavian parts of phoenix and while you did TO in almost every country that tried to be neutral we took different way , relations in eden are based on long term friendship and interest of every member was at least once top priority for whole alliance, for example when poland tried and menaged to get to the USA everyone did everything in their power to get them there (including romania) when romania and croatia deleted hungary , when USA ventured into asia, when italy ventured towards west, when spain held france regions, when we all liberated china... etc etc...
so no , you will not easily turn people of romania,spain,croatia etc against each others, just bcs it suits hungarian needs
sorry, but thats a bad idea that'll never work...
NWO? i say no.
Think autobot it!
votado !
...free eTexas o/
also it seems that you dont realize what NWO stands for in RL, its mainly globalization , killing of independence of small nation to fit few worlds major superpowers, the term you picked for your little plot most of people despise
Zelja, and if you staying alone with your love for a neverending war? Your bloodlust work without external support? This "old order" a boring and useless thing. If you want fight the 888-th battle with Vojvodina, or Slavonia, just make it, and have fun.
But the majority of player look a new challange.
EDEN? YES!
another propaganda fail!
hahahaha, lol
phoenix&peace propaganda! : ))
NO!
Zelja
+1
proud to be a part of what you call a congress minority : )
Get down on your knees and beg to join ya Huns!
PROPAGANDA F A I L!
Sollution for this sci-fi scenario is pretty simple: f*ck Croatia, get Spain into that NWO, and then Croats will change their mind once they're under serbian flag 😣
@Zeljo
pa zar ti ne vidis da mi sada vas dobijamo bez imalo muke,vi nam niste nikakva opasnost jer sada Poljaci vode svoju bitku,Ameri takodje,tako da vi sami sa Rumunima koji su preokupirani Mađarima niste opasnost ni po nas,ni po nase regije u eBiH.
Zar ti stvarno mislis da mi predlazemo ovaj mir zato sto se mi plasimo?Jedino razlog je taj sto je dosadilo jer nama vase regije ne trebaju,a vi nase ne mozete da uzmete i tako mozemo da se vrtimo u krug.
@ mikele_srb jel to razlog zasto nam se saginjete zadnja dva tjedna i uplakanih ociju molite za mir?
Ajde u osnovnu skolu sijat tu prizemnu propagandu. : )
Zelja: LOL, we were using Phoenix... Instead, without this 2 countries, Phoenx would be nowhere. with Hungary Germany, France, Russia would be still under EDEN occupation. I fought for these countries a lot of times, for every countries will, spent more money on them, then offensive wars.
EDEN has its own problems too, Romania vs Poland, or Romania had arguments vs USA.
And we all can se, what does EDEN do for new members ( Ukraine and Italy) or for old wans, like Croatia. Long term friendship was good for Germany too when he was your ally, or Ukraine.
opinion of Romper, Sucko, Zelja and Smartybarty are eCroatian public law..
too sad for small ecountries to have few loud tribal soothsayers..
@ Slauterovic Nikoslav
Actually it's an opinion of 70% of croatian population. You see we made a survey, if you know what that is. : P
I'll repeat again: Down on your knees and beg for peace... after leaving Bosnia alone ofc. Otherwise go ahead and spend thousands and thousands of gold to gain 2 regions in Italy. : )
Hail something !
😃
>Beograd
>aSerbia
Croatian citizens! Why are you so narrow-minded? I can't belive that the bigger part of the Croatian thinks this way. Don't you want some fun?
If they join the Alliance Principle 4 erepublik and there add a few more friends from all natural erepublik, against whom we will to fight?
@ HunFerike:
We have plenty of fun without you....
Hail Croatia ..
Fail Hungary haha nwo - this will be just another bull shit .
"Its very simple let Polish goverment presure Croatian goverment by not signing MPP with them,and very soon many Croats will start to think in the right way,this way Croat players know Poland along with Romania and EDEN will cover them so they act like a little child,its all about complex from RL,they cant get victory there,they cant get victory here so its frustrating to them...
As I said solution is very simple ePoland decline MPP with Croats for short time(until they come to their sence)and we(eSerbia,eHungary,ePoland)start making NWO,and very soon Croats will knock on door.. "
OMG the new definition for retarded circles the web😁))
@Aahz_ZBK
But you can agree with me that attacking the Serbian when they cancelled the natural enemy title of Croatia, was a coward act. Tanking more than half-million in the mini-battles playing on that you have the NE, but they didn't have that, because they want to show up a friendly gesture to you was really pathetic. This is the thing what you call fun, funny boy?