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@To create a united list of Congress Members every month. This is optional as it is very tedious to organize.

- it's not a solution, where is the liberty? maybe make a list, but pliz stop say : you must vote for...

@* Then we create a final poll. The person that EVERY ACTIVE Belgian has voted for will be supported by ALL parties of Belgium as Country President.

- it's normal for this game, a person who wants participate in a country, he must be available.

I thought the last picture was something else then cookies... 😛

the google search said those were cookies. 😛

@ Elynea, I think you misunderstood. That was a satiric comment on the picture. And the United Congressional list is a good thing for unity and democracy because many other parties don't get much promotion/endorsement compared to major parties even if they have many promising individuals!

The question was

Whether letting BfB control everything. Id like for things to remain the way they are as I am in the BfB side, but we can't hold this nation back from its full potential by barring other promising people.

This is also a solution I would like to discuss with everyone as many people complain about the BfB's standing. Now we have a possible solution present, why isn't anyone talking yet. So I hope more people will discuss so we can create an even stronger, and better solution.

"1. If the BfB wasn't powerful, there would be no Belgium. Fight me on that, but I will not give a long explanation here."

no offence, but that's BS. BfB has always been pro-reunification with eNL. The only ones that put eBE back on the map where Americans and EDEN soldiers

TR's first post when he came on the forum was "when will you merge again". Ever since, he's been trying to either hold all power himself or make sure puppets of his have all power.

It's stupid. If we do what you say, always win BfB for having more people

@ shadowukcs, Yes, BfB has been pro-reunification, but the reunification never happened. We all tried to stop the reunification. You should know that I did my best, being in the BfB, to prevent in eUNL from coming back. Yes, the Americans and EDEN soldiers put Belgium back in the map, but if BfB didn't have a strong voting force, we would've been forever under Romanian Control.

Yes, ThomasRed was opposed to an independent Belgium before, but he changed. I wouldn't expect anyone who's been used to something for so long and be suddenly forced to adapt to something new so fast.

And who was it that tried to mess up this nation before? Wasnt it the PTO forces! But now, most of them have changed and have become eBelgians. Those are all in the past so when we try to keep bringing up the past, more conflicts will happen. People change, people change for the good. Or at least that's what I believe.

@ Juan Cruz, we are actually sacrificing our 2-clicking voters if this goes through. How many 2-clickers do you think will take their time and manually vote in the forum? Not much.

So I guess, BfB will forever rule this country then. I have no problem with that.

"fight me on that" - oh LeCours would be so proud indeed.

-From a fellow across the Channel
(voted ^)

I do like your idea for choosing a national CP candidate that all parties support based on the active population.

@manong : as you know i don't make specially politic, i was in the bfb before, to be in congress, or president. I had allready vote for an other party.

You should not complicate things, it's necessary to progress.

The economy is for me, the big problem of our country. Salaries, market, raws...

That's true too Elynea, you indeed have a point. But our citizens are saying differently.

Yes, you all tried to stop the reunification, you succeed and look what you have accomplishe😛 eBE and eNL, two of the most insignificant countries in eRep... woohoo! Party time...

No seriously, eUNL was NOT a bad thing as some might have you to believe. Those who lived that time can confirm it. A small country like eBE doesn't stand a chance to survive in this big world. Therefore reunification should be considered as a possible solution.

When I left this game 6 months ago the situation was exactly the same as now. Maybe time to try something else?

Olv, Belgium is living happily independently.

I do not have that impression... at least not from the few articles I have read since I came back.

Inactivity, no fun, always same discussions about BfB, economy is a mess... must be me then thinking that there is a problem here... and proposing a solution to fix this!

And I do admire your tentative to find a solution but looking at the facts I don't think it will help. But I'm ready to try it if most of the people wants to.

Because enl is better? They are even more inactive. They refused a merging because of the flag.

No one here, except maybe TR wants us to merge again. I don't think the dutch (with exception of a few) want it either.

The unification is a closed chapter in eBE.

@Shadow : what's your solution to have best salaries?

More things on the market : Weapons quality superior, food, MT ?
how to have newcomers who don't leave the country to progress more after 3 days ?

You have a lot of companies Qualité 1, 2 ...

You want buy a MT Quality 2, there aren't on the market.
The problem in this game in this moment : admins !
If the game is better second problem : littles countries are not attractive for players, they don't participate to our economy...

Do you want a group who stand in the country and make work and train? It's enough for you?

lol Elynea. I think you've been living under a rock lately. eNL is economically just as bad, and possibly even worse than we are.

Thanks to admin inference in the Monetary market, currencies are down drastically, causing great economic crisis everywhere. A merge will solve nothing. On top of that, have you checked their forum lately? It's dead, whereas our forum is rather active (or at least was that way when I was president).

We have absolutely ZERO to gain from a merge with eNL.

As for your Q2 MT problem: a far cheaper solution would be to promote eBE economically and get foreign companies to buy a export license.

Also: a merge and the swapping of currencies thanks to that will cause even bigger downfall. It would completely destroy both our countries.

Shadow : i'm not talking about the merge. I just ask you some general questions about our country.

To make a babyboom would be a solution if the game was attractive.
Now, i see in shout, i change nationality for a country who has NE.
i have never seen that before.

eBelgium is not the only one in this situation.

I see a lot of critics about the merge but nobody proposing alternative solutions...

My alternative solution is no merging.

Xgentis Lempereur, with such (ex-)congress members who don't know what they are talking about it's just normal that eBE is a mess. You don't have your own opinion and you cannot bring REAL solutions on the table. So unless you come with some constructive talks I suggest you go watch some cartoons.

"I see a lot of critics about the merge but nobody proposing alternative solutions... "

Merging solves nothing. eNL is in a far worser situation then we are. and besides olv, if you would check the forum more, you'd know that really 90% (if not more) is against a merge. Feel free to propose it on the forum and prepare to be laughed with for the thought alone. When it comes to merging, I think only you, Elynea, TR and possibly Jofroi (not sure about him tho) are pro. And with those 3 (4?) citizens, you the only ones in all of eBE who are pro a union.

Again no alternative solutions...

The day I will have more time I will return on the forum. Right now I'm not really interested in those debates but I can't prevent myself to react on the few articles ingame. If I have to do the same on every debate on the forum then my boss will not see me anymore 😛

I don't have a problem not to merge with eNL. It was just a proposition to help out 2 countries that don't have a real future and where most of the citizens are dead or emigrated. And as history try to repeat himself, the reason of the initial merge was to have a stronger country to fight against easy PTO-targets. And what was the result: a powerful country, respected by all. But only the people who lived in that country can talk about that and those are almost extinct...

Who do you think you are to say that I don't have my own opinion? You don't know me a all and I sure as hell don't want to know you.

Why the need for a alternative? There is nothing wrong with the active population. Absolutely nothing. Socially speaking eBE has never been more active than in the past month. The only problem lies in the non-active population (ea: 2-clickers) and merging will only make that worse.

also, we haven't had PTO problems since you where CP so no, there is no real need to merge. Like I sai😛 noone wants it anyway. Not in here and certainly not in eNL. In case you haven't noticed, we nearly went to war a few months back and only 2 weeks ago they had a failed NE proposal. (shot down by a big majority tho)


With exception of you and a few other misinformed citizens who've lost all touch with the active population and what's going on the forum, none wants a merge.

Then Shadow : you will never see your country in progress. Newcomers don't speak like you. No

They want good salaries, they want challenge...

Everyone is different. You maybe want a simply a group of players who stay in a corner. The country don't have good ressources, but i can say you, if you had ressources, eBelgium would be destroyed since a long time !

i don't have opinion for the merge. I'm waiting to see the voice of the population.

Lol... what has progress to do with merging?? Progress must be achieved on social, economical, political and military fields,... merging doesn't help that. In fact, since eNL has a IRC based and eBE a forum based community, you'd only make things worse and split the community further up.

eNL don't give new salaries since they are dealing with the same crisis as we have. Like I said, the swapping of currencies and the costs of the merge would probably only lower salaries.

Not to mention you put the country wide open to PTO's, RW's,...


There is absolutely NOTHING positive about a merge. And like I said, only 4 ppl in eBE want it and probably even less in eNL.

If people from eNL doesn't want to merge is maybe because they aren't really your friend no? They have banned you from their forum if I remember well. Maybe there's some clue why YOU don't want this merge?

And if you keep saying that merge and BfB is a bad thing then everybody starts to believe you. That's what we call "propaganda".

And all the arguments you gave against the merge are the same arguments I see to do this merge. But like I said before I don't care anyway about the merge. But I do care about the future of my home country.

But thanks for the compliment that I helped out to prevent the country to be PTO'd 😁

I sniffs rebellion