Government makes a BIG Screw Up
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Mr Crumpets
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Up until 24 hours ago, the Ranger Bob Government had been moving along swimmingly well.
States were being recovered from Chile (through force), an active Government was in place and the people where looking forward to senate elections for the first time in months.
HOWEVER, about 10 days ago we got a first glance at the chink in the armour of Ranger Bob's Government - the non-ability to provide fast and accurate information during a PTO.
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On the eve of the Party President Elections, no information had been officially put out (via the DoI) by the Government to warn of PTO threats.
Luckily, DocterDry2 (now Moist!) put out an article explaining who was genuine and who is a PTOer. This article was copied by a number of citizens to help spread the message.
That said, the most important time for the Government to be active is on election day. That is regular and frequently updated articles, tweets and forum posts to advise where a PTO threat is winning and what parties could 'sacrifice' members to help vote in those other parties to defeat the PTO threat.
Sadly, we lost two parties, including the Australian Independents.
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So after this slip up, we hoped the Ranger Bob Government would have learnt from this, and it seemed they had.
On the 23rd of November, with a PTO threat to senate looking very possible, the Government appointed TJ Norton as Senate Elections Commissioner.
One expected this would make things run smoothly... instead, I've just had front row tickets to a big screw up and the finger pointed at the wrong person.
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Most of you by now would have seen the article by Green and Gold Party President Wingfield.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/truce-offer-withdrawn--2162256/1/20
It was a truce offer, that soon was withdrawn due to directions given to GGP members by TJ Norton.
Looking at that email at 0900 eRepublik time/ 4am Melbourne time - some 9 hours after it was sent, I find myself (strangely) agreeing with Wingfield - the email was poorly planned.
Now let's look at the facts of the email...
TJ Norton was right in his role to send an email to GGP members explaining his role and which parties are the PTO threat.
HOWEVER he did two things wrong that has cost a party it's legitimate top five spot and oppourtunity to put candidates up for election.
1. The subject of the email and it's contents told members to move to the ANP or ARP. As an Anti-PTO information expert in previous governments, you DO NOT put in the email which party to move to.
WHY? Because (as happened overnight) numbers change. THE CORRECT WAY is to email members warning of a PTO, THEN provide a link to an article with further and UP TO DATE information.
Remember, that articles can be edited and updated to reflect change in party positions and where members are most urgently needed to go.
Overnight, most of the multies were removed, so this effected party positions. In fact the GGP was a LEGITIMATE FIFTH PLACED PARTY, but because TJ's email about moving to the ARP and ANP was out there and the Anti-PTO information was not updated to the public, (at least) five GGP members moved party, thus moving the ARP up to take it's place.
Even more worrying was the suggestion of moving to the ANP, which is a clear and comfortable 2nd place.
SCREW UP? Big time!
2. Included in this email was the message...
And due to the actions of the Party President, the Green and Gold Party has now been declared PTO also
Under what reasons? Because a truce was withdrawn? Because a PP mouthed off (not the first time a PP has mouthed off) or was it because Wingfield didn't want to help with the Anti-PTO measures?
STOP ONE SECOND. If not taking part in Anti-PTO measures makes the Party President a 'PTOer', the technically the same thing could be said for DocterDry2. Cast your mind back to the 'Unity Government' election on the forums. DD2 did state along the lines that the ANP did not support the Anti-PTO Unity Government vote and would instead field hold it's own party vote.
That said, they did help and used a blocking candidate to help, but the point is, he said something similar to what Wingfield has said (just articulated differently), but DD2 was not declared a PTOer.
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TL
😉R version
The facts are...
1. Wingfield is a loose cannon and mouths off. He needs to be called a D***head, but not a PTOer.
2. It's too late now for TJ Norton to redirect GGP voters back to their party so they can return to the top five, so he needs to resign his position for failing to run up to date and accurate information.
3. Roger Bob on behalf of his Government (who appointed TJ Norton) need to apologise to the Green and Gold Party and it's members for being incorrectly called a PTO and (due to inaccurate information) costing the party it's fifth spot and ability for it's candidates to run in the senate elections.
In closing, please read this article again, not from a personalities point a view (cause of a lot can be said of Detroit and Wingfield and their tactics), but whether the correct process was run and how it cost legitimate candidates the chance to run.
Mr Crumpets.
Future Party President contender for the GGP.
Founder of the GGP.
Comments
TJ's intentions might have been good, but he screwed up.
He needs to apologise, learn from his mistakes and focus on the next elections.
GGP fucked themselves when destroit34 messaged the whole of ACP telling them he hates the communist in real life and that we should all move to other parties. Just so GGP could be in the top 5.
I respected Wingfield and his views, but not anymore.
I'm over this fucking shit. You're all useless unless you are doing damage for eAustralia and winning this war for me. 😉
😁 That's a joke btw. Don't get offended.
p.s
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/36072 FIGHT
Oh and to add.
I joined ACP, because I enjoy joining things on the bandwagon, where people are most active. Cause I find that more fun. I don't give a crap what communism means, so how dare the dickhead drill me about communist killing people or some crap. What a joke.
I'm just so over this crap.
FIGHT CHILE!
Crumpets... still the ignoramus
PROTIP: USE YOUR EYES and READ THE NEWS
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-please-read-what-the-hell-is-a-pto-and-what-to-do--2162243/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/dear-admin-your-move-remove-the-cheats-or-lose-the-money--2162248/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-ato-elections-commissioner-appointment-2162263/1/20
Plenty of information out there on what who when and where.... IF YOU AREN'T RETARDED
Not to mention that the IRC ato room was activated. Again not to mention that the multies used were so obvious that even ADMIN saw it and removed them... Whingefield might as well be a PTOer for all the help he gave in assisting parties with a chance to get top 5. The guy does not have a clue nor does he have australias best interests at heart. That is all
Ronny - UP TO DATE information - since you cannot read.
That means updating when the situation does.... the situation changed several times overnight.
Do I even need to read this? GGP were using multies that got hit with the ban hammer. Who cares about the rest? Cheats never prosper.
End of story.
The SITUATION, is that a number of Multi's were removed, and no PTO party is now in the Top 5.
Translation: A party using multi accounts to get into the top 5 is an illegal pto party.
ATO made the correct call.
The numbers of the GGP changed over night by 5, which result in a member boost for other parties - therefore NOT multies, but people switching parties because of an email from TJ Norton.
GGP dropped by 20+ members when the admins did their sweep.
Interesting the chat logs you come across (with thanks to our source - you have honour sir/madam).
Should I post how it was discussed (and approved by Ranger) to backstab the GGP, in favour of the ARP who were out of the top five at the time the GGP were in?
I believe the chat reveals that if Miss Wolf was PP, you were not going to touch the GGP - only because you didn't like Wingfield.
By all means CH. Actually the decision was made with respect to things you are glossing over heavily or simply not aware of. G&G mass posted people in game, through pretty unethical means in an effort to use the PTO to build numbers.
If you are going to come back, and participate in media, like ANY good journalist I expect you to receive ALL the facts before shooting off based on half the story.
"I'm just so over this crap.
FIGHT CHILE!"
I so totally agree with scottty here
He picks a side and shoots, doesn't care about facts. Just tries to dick up crap that's doing no good for the country
@ Louise:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/36104
Ronny - UP TO DATE information - since you cannot read. LOL oh im sorry i didnt know i wasnt allowed to SLEEP. and as i said, ATO room was in effect, once the threat had passed people were informed.
FFS... Green and Gold Party have lost all credibility in my book.. bunch of wankers...
These shitty articles remind me of the ones that were made by APP members during DDR's term...
Just trying to find any reason to ridicule the current government. Grow up guys.
Been there doing it Ranger Bob 🙂
I have held off for now till my health recharges and the bar (presently 66😵 gets closer to 50%
in the meantime the odd blow for Argentina in new Zerbia
You do not have to worry about me fighting to the limit : )
CH I understand that you're mad at me but I want you to know you don't have all the information. First off it wasn't my decision. I haven't been making decisions. I have been partaking in and relying on the collective advice of the activated ATO council - which includes all of the Top 5 legit parties. We needed to secure those who wanted to protect the country. Wingfield openly said he didn't want a bar of it. Case closed he's a PTO. Not for nothing, this was a group consensus.
"Wingfield openly said he didn't want a bar of it".
Like I said, DD2 said the ANP didn't want a bar of the CP Anti-PTO vote... does this make him a PTO as well going by that logic?
We've had PPs not part of anti-PTO operations before not called PTOers. Paul Hamon and the PaPP for example.
The whole conspiracy reveale😛 http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-great-conspiracy-2163026/1/20
lol @ wingfield trying to pretend he has uncovered some massive plot, even though it was open and public.
Mr Crumpets, yes it does. I was very vocal about the ANP not going with the ATO in the CP elections. thats the whole fucking point
The issue with you gents is you're all still hung up on party animosity. As an ANP member, if there was a report given to the population by the government declaring a party full of random keystrokes for lvl 20 accounts (Progressives) and another with 20 multis that have just been banned (GGP) and I was told to move to the ACP or the ARP to avert a PTO attack - I'd do it. This has nothing to do with party history - it's mechanics. Wingfield didn't want to be a part of the ATO. Simple stuff.
so sorry guys.. I immediately did as was instructed (by TJ's mail)
sadly, I wasn't online over the weekend, and I missed all this..
anyone in charge, please PM instructions
thank you