Economic Armageddon (or How the Hell Will We Ever Recover?)
PigInZen
OK, some of you are probably wondering just where the hell I went. I admit, the last presidential campaign sucked some life out of me. I needed to lie low for a bit and I did just that. President Josh Frost asked me to continue working on the National Database project and I've been focusing on that. In the meantime, a current issue caught my attention...
First, a Review of Basic Economics
Here are some of the terms I'm going to be using in this article:
1. Law of Demand. When a product's price is low, demand is higher. When the price increases, demand drops.
2. Law of Supply. Increased supply will drive down prices. Conversely, market scarcity will drive up prices.
3. Elasticity. How the price of a product affects demand is called Elasticity. Products that are necessities are inelastic - people will generally pay whatever is necessary to get them. Food is an inelastic good in eRepublik. Weapons, gifts and moving tickets are more elastic (and in that order too).
4. Market Equilibrium. The intersection of demand and supply.
5. Deflation. The overall downward movement of prices for goods and materials.
Consider this chart:
The demand curve is in red and denotes a relationship between price and quantity that is easily defined as "more will be bought the lower the price is." The supply curve is in blue and denotes a relationship between price and quantity that is easily define
😛"costs increase the more you produce." The intersection of the two curves, the "equilibrium" is the current selling price.
OK, ready? I can already sense your collective eyes glazing over... HANG IN THERE! Grab a cup of coffee, a diet Coke, a Ritalin pill just stay with me here!
OK, Mr. Know-It-All, What Do You Say Is Going On With Our Economy?
I'll tell you what's going on. It sucks. Wages are near rock-bottom lows and still dropping. Finished Goods and Raw Materials prices have been dropping as well. There seems to be no market bottom in sight.
Tell us something we don't know, Pig! (I'm getting to it...)
I believe I've identified several causes that have led us to our current situation. In a nutshell there is decreased demand and stable to increased supply compared to market conditions a month to three months ago. The three main presidential candidates from two weeks ago (Josh Frost, Joe Newton and myself) were all aware of this situation to a degree and it formed a basis for our collective desires for some warfare as a means to stimulate demand.
Well, that warfare came and failed to stimulate demand as was expected. Let's point out that this was a wanted war, a war that we've talked about for months on end, one that was highly anticipated. The idea was that war would serve to increase demand and reduce available supply. According to the Law of Demand and the Law of Supply, prices for goods, in particular weapons, should have increased. Yet they did not. Why not? Well, we were unable to stimulate demand enough.
Reasons for Reduced Demand
Let's think about why demand didn't increase enough to affect weapons prices. Here are the ideas that come to min
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1. Population reductions. In the eUS we've seen an overall reduction in both the absolute population number and the population of higher-leveled, wealthier players. I won't get into why this is happening, that's a whole 'nother discussion. But population decline is a big part.
2. The availability of a substitute product has affected weapons elasticity. That substitute is Lana and strength training. This is drawing off disposable income to such a degree that it affects aggregate (i.e., total) demand.
3. Military self sufficiency. For those not aware, the US military has been establishing companies on a large scale in order to produce weapons for military use. Members of the military are mandated to work at a designated company for a specific amount of time at a reduced wage. In essence their labor is subsidizing the production of weapons - the only cost is the minimal wage plus the cost of raw materials. Market demand for weapons has been suppressed by this practice on a large scale, effectively replaced by the fruits of the labor of the military.
In short, we're in a cycle of hurt and our traditional methods of shifting the demand curve no longer work. If we consider how pricing or equilibrium changes in economic models it is affected in two manners: increasing demand (aka "shifting the demand curve" to the right) or decreasing supply (aka "shifting the supply curve" to the left).
Let's revisit our friendly supply/demand chart from earlier, this time considering how a demand shift affects price:
It's quite simple, increased demand results in increased prices. OK, so far so good. What about a supply curve shift? Well...
OK, this is stupid easy, right? As supply increases the price drops. So how does this play into what we have here? Look at both charts again. Consider what would happen when BOTH demand drops and supply increases? Right. A precipitous drop in prices. Tie this in with an ill-timed change in USD/Gold exchange rate (the peg) and you have a recipe for deflation.
Deflation? Is That Like Inflation?
It's the complete opposite of inflation. Whereas inflation is an overall rise in the cost of goods and materials in relation to the value of currency, deflation is an overall decrease in the cost of goods and materials in relation to the value of currency. I our case, our USD is buying more now than it did two weeks ago, a month ago, three months ago.
Wait, that's a great thing! Stuff costs less, we can buy more stuff, right? Not if the deflation trend continues. That's when things get very bad. Here's why and it's what we're currently facing:
Decreased population, the substitution of stregnth purchases for weapons, and the removal of military weapons purchases leads to descreased aggregate demand. Under normal conditions this would lead to decreased production and supply. But we're not seeing any dent in the supplies of goods and materials. This is the killer; the price decreases are forcing a drop in wages. When wages drop the potential for further decreases in demand are possible, resulting in a deflationary spiral where prices chase wages all the way down.
So What the Hell Do We Do?
There are only two ways out: increase demand or decrease supply. We've already tried to increase demand through warfare. The other way, I assume, would be to increase retention rates and recruitment. That's a bitch and a half though and would compound the issue at first since new citizens don't have much purchasing power yet produce goods. That leaves...
Decrease supply. People could shut down companies. But again, that would suppress aggregate income in the short term as people lose wages and shift jobs to lower paying job offers. But there's a serious downside to this - we could face the potential of serious permanent job losses. We cannot consume everything on our market, the demand isn't there. But we cannot continue to feed the deflationary spiral.
A Potential Solution
Increase import taxation and chase off supply from foreign producers. This runs counter to all of our assumptions over the past year, commonly known as "stuff > gold". I think the challenge of reducing supply is more daunting than most realize - it's far too easy for business owners to drop some REAL dollars on some gold and subsidize their operations in the hope that prices will rebound. I'm guilty of this practice myself - I've been hoarding my production for about a month now. It would be far simpler to force this decision onto foreign producers. Let them make the decision to subsidize operations and sales on our market.
Keeping production in the US, keeping jobs in the US and raising wages in the US is vital to our national security. Domestic production results in income tax revenues. Foreign production does not. Why should our consumption supply tax revenues to foreign governments? They shouldn't. These taxes pay for our MPPs, our attack costs, tanking costs, and numerous domestic programs. The absolute last thing we want to see is a precipitous drop in tax revenue. This would put us in a dangerous position of having too much to protect without enough money to do so. This is a national security issue.
I never thought I would be saying this - but it's a different world than we faced this past summer and fall. We need some flexibility in our economic policy. I campaigned for the US Presidency by suggesting we might need to raise import taxes and now I am convinced that we need to try it. We can reverse the tax increase in short order - a mere 24 hours. Here's my proposal:
This Is Bound to Cause Some Rage
Raise Import Taxes as follows:
Weapons - 15%
Food - 15%
Gifts - 15%
Tickets - 20%
Grain - 15%
Oil - 15%
Iron - 15%
Wood - 15%
Diamonds - 1%
E Pluribus Unum. From Many, One.
I'LL SAY IT AGAIN: Together we have strength beyond measure. Do your part. Follow DoD orders. Fight with weapons. Maintain your wellness. SUPPORT THE CAUSE.
Comments
First denied. And this isn't like the Hospital Debate. Stop being condescending, defenders of the status quo...
Epic!!!
>I admit, the last presidential campaign sucked some life out of me.
Not to mention Zoli getting citizenship. I know that sucked some life out of me...but maybe that's just cos it made a mockery of my volunteer position in Immigration. 😑
At the very least, let's have some good debate on the topic. Well done.
I hope this makes the next term in Congress more interesting.
I am a cat and I support this message.
I own a foreign company that exports into the US and even I support this. Good luck, let's debate something, get some healthy discussion in Congress.
"But there's a serious downside to this - we could face the potential of serious permanent job losses"
The USA is technically at 100% employment. There are job offers on the market, thus, you can work. Otherwise, Congress members would get nonstop notifications that there's no jobs. If a company goes under it's because it fell victim to the pressures of the market. I have 3 companies running in the green right now, you just have to put your eggs in the right baskets.
Depreciated prices do not necessarily correlate with falling wages. The economy is complex, and has multiple sectors (Land, Manu, Constructions), which are further divided into separate RMs and products. In addition, the fall in wages in the United States is a GLOBAL issue. Every country has falling wages due to the pressures of Lana.
1% tariffs are still tariffs, and give American businesses leverage against competitors. We have 1% land tariffs because we should be shifting as close to 100% Iron production as we can to build better profits and revenue for America. Keep Iron its self at 1% because there are Greek companies loaded with Americans that export here, and Karnataka IS always in danger.
Manu 1% tariffs show their flex in large engagements, especially during big wars (USA v Hungary, Croatia v Serbia/Hungary). Prices rise and demand temporally exceeds domestic supply, driving prices up. The imports act as a roof, keeping guns affordable for the average spender.
This is a great article, I agree that we should do this, but I don't think it will make much of a dent overall. I think there are too many factors involved to see a change from just one.
Pretty Graphs make EC go, "Raise the Imports!!!"
More and more, I am beginning to see progress in this arena. THanks for some insight PIZ!
This was a fantastic read.
Too stoned to read and actually get something from this article, but voted anyway.
Agreed completely. Preach it brother.
This sounds like RL USA economy and i hope Obama doesn't have advisors that think like you. Protectionism only helps in short term and will also lead to similiar reaction from your trading partners. An overall economic module reform is required.
Demand will be spurred by:
1. increase product range
2. decaying/diminishing product
Supply will choked at the start...but eventually we will figure out v2 module - and more complexity would be required then. Population growth is important too. They should make the war consume more items/products too.
The oversupply issue is global IMHO. I think that anyone who operates businesses in multiple countries would agree with me. If you look at the charts available on ereptools, you will see that stocks are about 4x what they were 9 months ago in every category. Last time I looked there was something like 800k Q1 grain in stock world wide.
I believe that the issue simply boils down to the fact that businesses are too easy to open and too easy to manage badly. Maybe the new economic module will solve the issue? Who knows, it may even introduce more problems.
I agree with the effort to increase import taxes to more traditional levels.
the Green Liberal Democrats support raising import taxes, let's make our economy strong, with local jobs!
for shizzle.
In the Chat Rooms, even amongst the Newb Population that we deal with in there; there has been a lot of questions regarding Import Taxes and the Low Wages.
Nice to have an Article to point them too.
PiginZen for March 10!
eAmerican businesses have no leverage against foriegn companies, lol. I really do not see why anyone would even mention that. It costs more to make it here its as simple as that. the only country Im aware of that would have a hard time profiting off our market is poland and thats simply because there currency is stronger then ours. Beleive it or not the value of a nations currency plays a big roll in all of this and it plays a big roll in reducing the complexaty of the econimcs of the game simply because we have moved more twords a gold standard then we should be. Balance out the value of our currency and the economic problems will not be so bad. Gold is to cheap, set the value of our currency back to around 40 USD = 1 gold and our economy will begin to grow once more. Our government is spending to much time focusing on cheap gold for wars and not enough time on its people. More job and higher wages means more gold for our nation no matter what the peg is. The only problem is that when the peg is to high it chocks off the jobs and wages. This is why in RL countries like china control very closely the value of there currency and they do not let it become to valuable. Everyone wants USD because our market on our currency is the strongest in the eWorld, this is great for people that have a lot of money to begin with but not for the average eUS cit or any business in the eUS. Combine this with an open market and most of our enemies are using our own gold to fight us. We basically solved the problem of another country buying up all our weapons because they could get large chunks of USD with there gold and created a differant problem where they can now use our currency to open up new wars. There are a lot of USD out there. Cheap gold makes luna a very happy little wench.
This is so well stated and argued that it's hard to imagine an opposing argument. But I am sure they will soon appear.
I fear, however, that reducing or eliminating imports would not rectify the problem.
how about...
weaps 3%
food 5%
gift 5%
ticket 5%
Iron 3%
Wood 5%
grain 1%
oil 1%
diam 1%
Take good notes and evaluate as we go...
>Grain - 15%
I lol'd.
This makes utter sense.
IDK, these "foreigners" are our allies; helping them out doesn't hurt our national security. Also a lot of American's own companies over seas and export goods back state side, mainly RM's. I'm also not convinced that foreign goods are over saturating the market, since we produce so much ourselves; Florida has over 500 companies, most manufacturing.
The easiest way to cause inflation would really be to readjust the CBO peg. Lowering down to .025 or even .02 would create rising wages and prices. Cries of deflation have been sounded regularly throughout my time in eRep, yet the eUS economy keeps chugging along.
Respectfully submitted,
this article/issue almost=aeros' hospital article
oh God we opened another can'o'worms
This is an idea worth trying. PiZ's argument makes sense, lets test this out. Voted.
Very well written.
Votado!
No mention of Lana or the unique eRepublic situation of 100% employment...needs moar game mechanics.
O/W good article.
Maybe, MAYBE:
weaps 2%
food 2%
gift 2%
ticket 1%
Iron 2%
Wood 2%
grain 2%
oil 2%
diam 1%
Well done and thoughtful as always.
Too stoned to read and actually get something from this article, but voted anyway. [x2]
Your analysis works for RL,you minimized some aspects in ER :
-the demand sharply increases for Weps if an important battles are available for 3-4 days continuously,have you calculated how much weapons the eUS spends a day during important fights and how much weapons are available on the US market with a variance of +15% from the lowest price ? Right now the prices for weapons are quite the same in all EDEN countries ,you might notice that it might happen that only some EDEN countries are to be involved directly in battles ,if you raise the import tax that means you will automatically increase the prices of weapons from countries that are not involved in a direct battle ,the prices in those countries - low prices -> likely to export to the eUS .
Raise the tax to 15% you give the US producers a 15% margin to be inefficient ,a 15% free profit margin ..because like it or not the US weps market will be under stress ..if you do not believe me see how many weps are available for each Q with a 15% margin and see that it does not cover more then 40% of a peak day consume .Low import taxes minimizes the risk of sharp increase in weps prices in a short period of time .
And BTW ..ER would be a nice place to test this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_Advantage" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative[..]ntage
Also :
-the problem is not in the eUS is in the current ER economic module ,every user produces faaaaar more then it consumes ,the eUS seems to cope far better with this problem then the rest of the countries .
-the tax system in the eUS is one of the strong points of the eUS economy and proofs can be found here :
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/do-you-know-how-much-your-country-earn-every-day-from-you--1203755/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/do-y[..]1/20
so for the tax system I would give the US a 9/10
the issue I think it is the huge amount of issuing the US does so for monetary policies I do not think the eUS is better then a 4\10.
You get a lot of currency from taxes and still you issue a lot of USD thus flooding the market.Also I do not think you use any calculations to see how much money you spend on income players (citizen fees ) and how much USD leaves the game when people quit playing (that has a impact mostly ignored when calculating the monetary volume).
-if you think you can be competitive you can provide companies incentives to export (pay companies with employees with high wellness that work daily half of the export license ).
-also ..EDEN is also a economic alliance so maybe it should act accordingly 🙂
Deflation = Too Few Dollars Chasing Too Many Goods
Inflation = Too Many Dollars Chasing Too Few Goods.
Makes perfect sense. Voted!
as in the real world when products are purchased from foreign countries the profits go to the country of origin. theres two ways to avoid this without taxing foreign companies, which in turn doesnt put money into the eUS economy but into the governments treasure chest, they are to either have US companies playing middleman by purchasing foreign goods and raising prices to make a profit for themselves when selling them to customers. or strictly and exculsively utilize the companies already here in the eUS to create growth and demand for more companies. more companies create more competition in not only paying higher wages to lure employees in but in price wars to keep them from price gouging the consumer. to me this is nothing more than Capitalism 101 !!!
I support this because this will keep jobs in eUS and we wont have to compete with other nations in companies in our own nation.
Agreed 100%. You read my mind
I'm so adamantly against such practices in real life, that I'm having a hard time thinking about just the game economy. Of course the game economy is different that the rl economy, since there is not really a lasting repercussion to going broke, so people may take stupid risks. I'm not sure I'm against this, here though... since usually inflation is the problem, not deflation. Of course a market solution would be better, but the market in eRep is too simple to leave much wiggle room. At best, you can flood the money supply (not quite free market, but close), but since we are by the force of nature, on the gold standard, that will cost us an arm and a leg.
Raise export taxes to 50% and iport taxes to 50% thats is good
how about...
weaps 10%
food 10%
gift 10%
ticket 10%
Iron 15%
Wood 15%
grain 10%
oil 10%
diam 5%
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Excellent article, I agree 100%
+1` inetrnet to you Mr.PiZ for an awesome article
I jizzed when I read this I am for this 100%
Oh noes, someone is questioning the status quo. Run for the hills!
In all seriousness, this is something we've needed to do for a while. Low import taxes only make sense when our allies have equally low import taxes. Otherwise they have an unfair advantage in our market.
That being said, I think the percents you suggest are higher than the EDEN and world averages. We don't want to unduly discourage trade, just even the playing field. I'll release an article in a few days with the info and some analysis.
Amazing! Voted
signed
well spoken, when can we get to work over it?
I'm a fan of a more tiered approach to this. Gradually raise import taxes and view the results. Overshooting on the import taxes could just as negative an effect as the status quo. If we take it slow and make the change in smaller steps we can find the most effective tax rates.