Disband the UKRP - The only way forward for eUK Politics
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by Tommy Tommasino
DISBAND THE UKRP - THE ONLY WAY FORWARD FOR eUK
Yes this article is partly contributed to by the fact that for the second consecutive month I've lost out to an inactive UKRP congressman (no forum no manifesto) in North West *(it was East Midlands last month). This is however a stroke of luck for the eUK anyhow since due to RL circumstances i'm having to go inactive for a while (but will be back soon I hope!). However this fact of my own failure also draws my attention to the general plague of eUK currently : the UKRP. Anything I write in this article is entirely my own view.
UKRP
A party of around 400 members. A party of over 20% of congress. A party who consider themselves justly one of the 'top 3' of eUK and a big player in eUK politics.
However I, Tommy Tommasino, would argue that they are actually the worst party in eUK currently and their very existance is detrimental to eUK politics currently and therefore the correct step should be taken and the party be disbanded. This is not of course certain active members fault.
The following statements however are true:
1. Their candidates for congress many of whom are inactive and do not post on forums have a far greater chance to get into congress based simply on a sheep vote of people who do not know them but vote based on party.
2. Many good candidates this month and last have lost out in elections to UKRP inactive members based simply on the fact that the opposing candidate is not UKRP. This is down to the nature of the game - party comes up first and UKRP has a large membership. I would argue that many players join the UKRP simply because it is the 'biggest party', nothing to do with their policy.
3. I have nothing against Deathtoll (as people could see when i called for the rejection of his impeachment) however UKRP must admit that if the sheep vote was laid aside Relic would have won the last Presidential Elections.
Yes every party suffers from sheep voting. But none suffer nearly as much from it as UKRP - the figures are ridiculous.
The vast majority of their congressmen can be classed as INACTIVE. The vast majority of members of their party can be classed as INACTIVE. UKRP is a stagnant beast that eUK needs to be rid of. It is time to call it a day. Its active members should leave and set up a new party - prove to eUK that you can survive without the sheep vote of inactive in-game members who have never read the policy.
An eUK without UKRP. An eUK with TUP, PCP, MDU, TRP and a newly formed UKRP without sheep votes would be an exciting place to be.
SHOW YOUR AGREEMENT BY SIGNING BELOW AND VOTING UP!
p.s if i sound a little bitter, i think i am allowed to be to a certain extent. this isn't however connected to my resigning as NHS north west director & MoMaS. RL circumstances have cropped up and mean i'll be idle for a while, but hope i'll be able to come back soon and give my all for eUK once more.
Yours as always,
Tommy Tommasino
Yes this article is partly contributed to by the fact that for the second consecutive month I've lost out to an inactive UKRP congressman (no forum no manifesto) in North West *(it was East Midlands last month). This is however a stroke of luck for the eUK anyhow since due to RL circumstances i'm having to go inactive for a while (but will be back soon I hope!). However this fact of my own failure also draws my attention to the general plague of eUK currently : the UKRP. Anything I write in this article is entirely my own view.
UKRP
A party of around 400 members. A party of over 20% of congress. A party who consider themselves justly one of the 'top 3' of eUK and a big player in eUK politics.
However I, Tommy Tommasino, would argue that they are actually the worst party in eUK currently and their very existance is detrimental to eUK politics currently and therefore the correct step should be taken and the party be disbanded. This is not of course certain active members fault.
The following statements however are true:
1. Their candidates for congress many of whom are inactive and do not post on forums have a far greater chance to get into congress based simply on a sheep vote of people who do not know them but vote based on party.
2. Many good candidates this month and last have lost out in elections to UKRP inactive members based simply on the fact that the opposing candidate is not UKRP. This is down to the nature of the game - party comes up first and UKRP has a large membership. I would argue that many players join the UKRP simply because it is the 'biggest party', nothing to do with their policy.
3. I have nothing against Deathtoll (as people could see when i called for the rejection of his impeachment) however UKRP must admit that if the sheep vote was laid aside Relic would have won the last Presidential Elections.
Yes every party suffers from sheep voting. But none suffer nearly as much from it as UKRP - the figures are ridiculous.
The vast majority of their congressmen can be classed as INACTIVE. The vast majority of members of their party can be classed as INACTIVE. UKRP is a stagnant beast that eUK needs to be rid of. It is time to call it a day. Its active members should leave and set up a new party - prove to eUK that you can survive without the sheep vote of inactive in-game members who have never read the policy.
An eUK without UKRP. An eUK with TUP, PCP, MDU, TRP and a newly formed UKRP without sheep votes would be an exciting place to be.
SHOW YOUR AGREEMENT BY SIGNING BELOW AND VOTING UP!
p.s if i sound a little bitter, i think i am allowed to be to a certain extent. this isn't however connected to my resigning as NHS north west director & MoMaS. RL circumstances have cropped up and mean i'll be idle for a while, but hope i'll be able to come back soon and give my all for eUK once more.
Yours as always,
Tommy Tommasino
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Unfortunately you can't be a political party in Erepublik without sheep voters.
Squiddy every party does suffer from it yes, but no party anywhere near the extent to the UKRP. It has become a liability to the whole of the eUK. For the best of the country it Must disband.
I lost to an inactive person in the first Congressional Election in V1.
Guess what? I was in UKRP. Maybe we should disband every party
I think it is imperative that the UKRP at least put up Congressmen of quality, and denounce those who do not even have a manifesto (like TUP). Of course all Parties suffer from a sheep vote, but can someone from the UKRP leadership explain to me why you allow such poor quality congressmen (and in poor quality, I mean in-active)stand in the first place. And administration issues aside, why do you not denounce them?
Perhaps it is time for UKRP to try and get its house a little more in order, so that we can minimise the damage sheep voting does?
join the true ukrp http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/the-true-uk-reform-party-21/1
Jacen: We do try and tell our Candidates to join the forums. We have always done that. Unfortunately, we can't stop them from running for Congress. PP's can only REPLACE with other candidates, they can NOT REMOVE.
Each region gets Two candidates from each region, so it's nearly impossible to get replacements. That's why we can't stop them.
Trust me when I say that we (UKRP Actives) dislike this just as much as you do. It doesn't help us either by having a bunch of inactive Congressmen running under our banner. If they were active, it'd be a completely different thing. So please don't assume we like this either
I would like to assume you don't like it...and yet, other Parties manage to replace candidates ok? Are you saying that you don't even have enough active people within your party to replace some of the 'two-clickers' who stand for your party? And if this is the case, is the whole idea of this article entirely justified (ie, UKRP should maybe start a new party, and ditch the dead weight).
Personally, I am not trying to have a go at you, or the active people in your party. However, I think you and all the hard work you guys do, is let down by this. It is not only in your Party's interest, but in the interest of the whole eUK that UKRP begins to field/replace with active and promising candidates, instead of the waste that we see now...many good politicians are being left out in the cold because your Party has too many members sheep voting, and not enough good quality congressmen they can vote for!
UKRP isn't a proper party,
They have 6 active members at most, and just manage to skew the political landscae
Perhaps it is a measure of the quality of your canvassing ability and political message that you keep losing to inactive UKRP members.
Rest assured that there ARE active UKRP members - who DO have the support of the voting population!
Rather that bleating about the 'unfairness' of the whole voting system - why do you not just get yourselves organized and BUILD a party/electorate!
ow, hey look. It's tommy the joker, slagging other party's because he's jealous his party is too small and not represented in HoL.
let me tell you one thing Tommy: UKRP has done more for e-UK then your party or you will ever do in your entire career in this game. What have you done so far? Not much! Yes, you've ran NHS a bit. boohoo, big deal, everyone can do that. When the ministerposts where divided they gave that role to you so you would stop nagging. That's how many ppl see you here: a big nagger. and this article is yet another proof of it.
you know who's the real treat for e-UK, tommy? you!! you are the real treat here. If someone would name your achievements in this game then it would simple: nagging like noone has ever done before and creating bickering and fights between ppl. that's your sole achievement in this game, tommy. Appart from that, you've done nothing in the past 2 months.
And if I remember well, you tried to run for president 2 months ago without even being registered on the forum. Did we start posting articles on: "Tommy running for president while not even being registered on the forum. MDU should be disband"
you're entire article is sad. We at UKRP give chances to new ppl. we give those congressional posts to new ppl so that they might learn this game too. We create opportunity's. You take them away. All you think is "me, me, me".
What do you hope to achieve with an article like this? The only thing you'll get is ppl insulting each other and the mood on the forums going down again. And then, when someone like Hanzz or Hassan (good and honest ppl, unlike you) posts an article to call everyone to stop slagging, you will probably be so hypocrite to be the first to say "yeah guys, you are right. We should stop this". Coz that's the kind of guy you are. A goddamm hypocrite who's only purpose is to make ppl insult each other.
. And then, when someone like hanzz or Hassan (good and honest ppl, unlike you) posts an article to call everyone to stop slagging ''
Never heard of hanzz, anyone ? 😛
HazzN maybe but no hanzz 😛
typo when I want to type to fast ;P
"someone like hanzz "
hehe, I'm so glad I have made such an impact that you remember my name 😉
Maybe we have 5 similar size parties so congress can be more even, and when there is presidential elections they propose 2 or 3 candidates who are not in a party so it is based on their manifesto therefore there will be much less sheep voting
And again with the MDU Bashing....I was surprised it took that long. I agree with Tommy - and i'm in congress, so i've got a more ballanced view (wildcard), but one of NI's regional Congressmen is a UKRP member who turned up 2 days before the election, didn't post a manifesto, made a ludicrous post about NI needing a defense system, and with only 8 posts became congressman....
UK Reform doesn't need to disband. The party just needs to look at it's internal structure and improve activity. Looking at the forum stats of all parties UKRP lags behind on active members by alot and I mean alot.
If you got rid of all the active members you would have a good 390 less than active members left. A more dangerous prospect than the current one.
Come on, if you honestly think disbanding UKRP would make a difference you have a lot to learn. All that would happen is another Party would gain a large amount of members leading to the same problem all over again.
The sheep wouldn't rejoin
Whether they won't to or not, the UKRP have 394 sheep in the party
They should deal with it for the sake of the electorate, otherwise it is just confirmation that you like having sheep becuae you know you win elections undeservedly from it, like last CP elections, and these congress elections
I notice the UKRP says 'we encourage them to join the forum, we can't do anything else'.
Several times it has been noted that TUP publicly denounces inactive candidates, the UKRP instead put out an article saying 'We do this and this and this', NOT denouncing inactives.
I would only wish for the disestablishment of UKRP if it really went too far, which it hasn't at the moment, as we have a semi active government.
haha shadow i love the offense you take so easily. the fact is that yes the UKRP has done things in the past, but we're living in the present and right now its just a liability.
and you're a liar, i was registered and a poster on the forums when i ran for CP - just my name was not exactly the same as my citizen name so when someone searched for it the couldn't find it and thus said i wasn't registered. Get your facts right fool.
You don't give opportunities to new players, your idiocy astounds me. People who have no interest in actually getting involved take advantage of the UKRP sheep vote to get voted in.
"And again with the MDU Bashing....I was surprised it took that long"
and what do you classify the text above then? I would certainly not call it UKRP bashing... nooooo, totally not.
can't you see that all tommy's tries to do is destroy things and start fights in stead of once posting something constructive.
"can't you see that all tommy's tries to do is destroy things and start fights in stead of once posting something constructive."
actually shadow he sees a problem with the current political scene and has come up with a solution to it, which is being very constructive.
What I don't understand is why the UKRP doesn't simply disband and reform. Stick an atricle up about it in the forum for a week befor you do it. That way everyone who is active will see it. Then drop all the dead weight.
'ow, hey look. It's tommy the joker, slagging other party's because he's jealous his party is too small and not represented in HoL.'
Shadow at least try to start with something constructive. Else all you are really doing is spamming and trolling.
Voted and signed - you are entirely correct.
i say all the above as a current member of UKRP 😉
Can't we get an active fovernment?
Don't bring the MDU into this Shadow, this is a personal opinion and a personal paper. Unless Oexis says this and calls it an official statement, this is not official. Not to mention the fact that Tommy was on the forums and active, just under a different name 'Tommassino'
"i say all the above as a current member of UKRP 😉"
why are you in the conservative revoloution? you should join the true ukrp,
http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/the-true-uk-reform-party-21/1
There is nothing worse than inactive members of congress but with real support and a bit of campaigning this can be over come. At TUP we proved this by getting SKQ62 elected to congress through campaigning. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the East Mids was a tough region for the TUP. I think it is however the responsibility of the politcal party to present candidates who a) have bothered to write a presentation and b) who are active.
i dont believe this is wrong..u cant tell the nwer pppl in the game "NO YOU CANT GO FOR CONGRESS BECAUSE I WANT IT" they go for congress they get bored..they Leave eRep, tell me?..how would u make sure they dont get bored of 2 clicking? and yea im not in a party atm..military FOR THE WIN so im not picking a side, altho i was in ukrp for the first month and left..was nothing but a random voter politial things arnt my sort of things..but yea..Tommy shadow is right..all u do is complain..u know..i used to like you and some of ur ideas..but now? its just.."ooh look i bet tommys complaining again"
agree
"We at UKRP give chances to new ppl. we give those congressional posts to new ppl so that they might learn this game too. We create opportunity's"
We at the MDU have been doing that since I started the party. And every party does that.
I encouraged new players to apply for party positions in order to gain experience, and guess what - when I did that UKRP said this was a bad thing because I was letting newbies who didnt understand the game a voice.
Now THATS hypocritical.
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I think disbanding the UKRP is going much too far and is unnecessary. I do think that the UKRP could do more to combat the problem though. I realise it's not my place to tell UKRP members how to run their party, but the UKRP is getting far more criticism for this than anything else they do, and they'd face less criticism if they were seen to make more of an effort to stop this happening.
BBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Why not disband all the parties? Then there would be no sheep voting at all. Ultimate solution Tommy. Ultimate.
Excellent article. A big part of me's inclined to agree, but I think taking a decision to disband a party would set a bad precedent for democracy. The UKRP should follow their own name though and eliminate sheep voting through reform. Most of the UKRP Congressman that got voted in didn't even have presentations, how that happened is disgusting.
How about we disband UKRP, MDU, PCP, TUP, UBP and all the others and not have congressmen or a president at all ?
That would be great, no bickering, no nagging, no bitching and moaning.
Let's have a Utopia (apart from the spamming) on eUK Forum.
I'm sure a lot of eUK citizens would love that.
Nah that will never happen, and neither will your stupid idea of disbanding a party that your not even a member of.
If the UKRP ever did disband, it would be based on the wishes of it's members and not those of Tommy "The Nagger" Tommasino or anyone like him.
Why stop at UKRP?
You're right! Lets destroy PCP too 😃 (jokes)
Not Voted!
I have am an active UKRP member, and the only reason I have not been on the forums lately is that I have been busy in RL.
Maybe our 'sheep voters' see that the few active members we do have are dedicated guys, who are great for the country. Alternatively, I guess it could just be down to our policies being better.
We could just abolish all the parties. A one party system would avoid all of this inter-party conflict, and help us to concentrate on moving forward as a nation 🙂
I think one word springs to mind at this article:
BITTER.
I don't believe we should ask the UKRP to disestablish themselves as there active members have brought things to the eUK but if we saw them ousting out the inactive sheep voters to bring a bit of fairness to elections that would be most welcome!
I think forcing a disestablishment on to the party is a bit harsh, they have good members just use their sheep voters to turn themselves into a dictatorship effectively.
An ousting of inactive sheep voters would be most welcome!
Voted....
...check this article...
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/all-regions-of-eworld-high-productivity-iron-727598/1/20
"Most of the UKRP Congressman that got voted in didn't even have presentations, how that happened is disgusting."
Richard York: BBB (Prime Minister Candidate of the MDU) didn't have a presentation for his Congress election either. Maybe you should re-select your PM Candidate for it, as apparently you Denounce those people.
"BBB (Prime Minister Candidate of the MDU) didn't have a presentation for his Congress election either. Maybe you should re-select your PM Candidate for it, as apparently you Denounce those people."
he had an article, it didn't appear as an official presentation, oh and i'm glad you've started the negative campaigning already.
Seriously Rastari? Me defending the UKRP on an ANTI-UKRP article is "negative campaigning"?
I sure hope you realise that sounds so stupid.
Not to bring RL politics into this, but it is often the case that come a general election or even by election - it is the party that is being voted for not the actual individual MP. There are obviously exceptions to this rule of course, particularly vocal independents or indeed parties standing based on a particular issue.
As such although it does not seem fair to lose to an 'inactive' it is simply a case that either not a good enough marketing campaign has been fought against the individual (if I knew they weren't active why would I vote) or like in the RL irrespective of how good your policies may be having the bigger following will always bring results.