Community Debate: A Solution for the Theocrats
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by Listhp Tomptos
It has struck me recently that while eRepublik seems to be a place of little racism and exclusion one group is always being pushed away. This group happens to be one of eRepubliks oldest, most experienced and wealthiest groups, the Theocrats. This group mainly follows the teachings of the now inactive Dio Brando who entered the New World in it's ninth day. They currently appear to be lead by Dio Maksas and Dio Akira.
At one time the Theocrats were possibly the most powerful group in eRepublik, their homeland of Pakistan controlled India, China and a few other regions. They also had the largest population. But at around Day 450 they started to get attacked from both sides, on the east by Indonesia and the west by Iran. Within a fortnight they had gone from the biggest empire in eRepublik to a people without a region to live in.
This started a darker period in their history. Soon after Pakistan was lost they moved to Switzerland where they staged a Political Take Over. After winning the elections of this single region country they started oppressing other political parties and donating all funds to the Theocratic Panthenon. They created a relatively wealthy society with the highest average experience in eRepublik of around 800 at it's peak. In this period they aligned with FORTIS and EDEN countries as they sought to regain other regions that were originally Swiss. But when WWIII came around and the US and Canada were in their darkest hour they turned their backs on their allies so as they could expand their territory into France. The Swiss tanks could have easily turned the war at this crucial stage but they allowed Hungary, France, Russia, Portugal and Indonesia to continue to expand. With the war in America apparently almost won Hungary turned it's attention back to Europe where it's first target was the Theocrats. While they fought with everything they had they were no match for the massive population of Hungary. Yet again they found themselves homeless.
Dio Maksas ordered the Theocrats to go underground after the loss of Switzerland. During this time they would have formed plans to make a new homeland by PTOing the liberated region of South Korea. After taking control of South Korea they started resistance wars in other regions of South Korea still controlled by Japan. As you probably know Australia sent many troops to help our Japanese allies but to no avail. The Theocrats currently control two regions in SK and one already has a Q5 hospital and Q4 defense system.
This leads me to the question. Should we be working to offer the Theocrats a permanent home. It may not be where it currently is but surely they deserve a place to live even if it is only one or two lowly populated regions. Otherwise we will continue to have problems with their PTOs and occasional interference elsewhere from a wealthy, intelligent group that has much to offer society, our economy and our military if handled correctly. I would like everyone else's views but think about it from the Theocrats point of view as well.
Anther question that follows on from this is:
Would we allow them to participate in Sol wargames?
Personally I think we should be forgiving and give them a second chance providing they agree to stick with whichever regions they were given.
Lastly, please don't get personal on anyone for their views, it is just a game.
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The Theocrats are nothing compared to Cozlam
maybe they should stay in austiral we have the numbers not to be Pto and we could benfit form there welth and wisdom
They wouldn't stop at one or two small regions... Where is the fun in that?
Great article.
I would probably be hesitant to offer them a permanent home unless there was some guarantee that they would not try for a PTO.
I think the Theocrats would be a great asset, but on the other hand they would also offer risk as well. The risk of PTO and the risk of them making eAustralia a target for anyone who would like to attack them.
idk these guys are smart, anyone knows that to get though us they would have to get though eido and not many people are willing to go though with that. It works both ways theocrate would be smart enough to realise that using austiral to actack eindo would be very stuiped snice there the only people that they can actack.
Although we can benfit grately if they worked with us though or our goverment started traiding with them. Right now they need raw materals and we got what they need.
Humm about them being trust worthy that debatable though
I agree with Bina and I think the risk is too high.
hummm tipical austiralans ...
Sadly i think there smarter then this bunch. Look it this way if they wanted to they could of attempted to pto here and start a war with eindo but they didn't.
What's a point of a game if it's not any fun by the way ?
The one thing you're forgetting is that there is never any gain without risk, and they would be a benefit to all of us. Perhaps we could offer them a state as a particular homeland, so long as it remains within the overall Australian Commonwealth and identifies as Australian?
And I think the greatest risk lies in aiding the Theocrats at the expense of our current allies who are fighting with them. If we must act, we must act in a way that will end the conflict and leave the Japanese, well... happy with us.
hummm i got an idea but i am not discussing it here anyone interested go on the eaustirain forms
To the author: Similar to my line of thinking. I had urged the eJapan congress to withhold declaring war on the theocrats, simply because they had already secured citizenships. With their history as you described, the outcome was exactly as I expected - with eSouth Korea unchanged, and eJapan worse off than at the beginning.
There were a series of exchanges between theocrats and eJapanese, both of whom were unable to come to immediate understanding. As far as I can tell the theocrats exist only for themselves and are not a natural element in this game but an aberration based on membership and fictional religious worship. That is how they want to play the game, and they can play as they will.
But remember that if you're not playing the way they do, you might find yourself burned. If you are not a theocrat, you will never be equal on their lands. The believe the ends justify the means, even if it tramples on the hopes and dreams of others who play the game. Ruthless, calculating - an entity lusting for more power at the expense of all others, until there is nothing left.
Tanaka Fujimori
eJapan Ambassador to eAustralia
I can see the merit in this idea. However, speaking from first hand experience, it would open a Pandora's Box of sorts.
First, the theos have a very specific economic model. The merits of that model are certainly open to debate, but I can attest that it is in no way compatible with our current model.
Also, our nation's biggest strength at this time comes from it's neutrality. The theos are a war fighting machine - there is no doubt that this is what they do best. That being the case, they will not be content to just sit idly by and watch the rest of the world go to battle.
I also think that the theos would not be content to "co-exist" with our citizen base.
The ethics of the theos is open to debate - some will say they are terrorists or thugs - while others will opine that they are just playing the game and having fun. I personally, from my time spent in eSwiterland during their rule, would lean toward the latter.
With all this in mind, I think our best situation is to be open to diplomacy with the theos, but let them do their own thing within the confines of their new-found homeland in South Korea. They can be very powerful allies, and we can possible learn a thing or two from them. But to invite them to our nation and give them a territory - that might be an invitation to basically become a theocratic nation.
We should have had this discussion before the Theocrats kicked our collective ass, now that they have what they want and they know they can beat us we have nothing to offer.
If you give the Theocrats and inch, they'll take a mile. Any attempt at compromise will be seen by them as weakness. You'd only be encouraging them. The only way to keep their aspirations in check is to make them completely give up.
sure, lets give the crazy theocrats a home. We, the government are secretly planning on attacking eIndonesia shortly, so we can give them some spare eIndonesian regions when we take over the country.
I'm against this, I'm no fan of eJapan but giving the Theocrats a home in eAustralia seriously compromises our national security.
We can't guarantee that they wouldn't attempt to take the rest from us, besides they have a very particular approach to the game (which they are totally allowed to have by the way) that wouldn't let them assimilate into the general population.
Personally, I've always rather liked the Theocrats. They definitely deserve a home somewhere.
Theos NEVER betray the allies.
Never.
We fought against usa in mexico (and we won)
We liberated one moldavian region from Romanians.
We conquered Sardinia fighting with Spain and ex-atlantis nations
Then, eHungary tried to pto us.
So, now, we are AGAINST eHungary.
We have no need to expand ourselves.
We need only one region where to live and create THEOCRACY.
hi, what are you doing here?
The Theocrats don't betray their allies. It's so true. It wouldn't make good sense to betray your allies when you have so few who won't treat you like the enemy.
The Theocrats lost eSwitzerland because they allied themselves with the eUSA. They then attacked PEACE to try to distract eUSA's enemies. And they lost everything. It's a story much like what happened to eNorthKorea.
The Theocrats won't be satisfied with just having two regions. You don't build a flourishing economy on two regions. They'll want the whole jar of kimchi. And when they've freed eSouth Korea to their rulership, they'll look at accomplishing the Korean dream of a unified Korean Peninsula. Resistance Wars will start up in eRussian territory. An eUSA ally will be back in the game distracting the eRussians so the eUSA can get the upperhand again in their war to liberate North America from PEACE.
As much as I would applaud this if it happens... For the love of Australia I must say we can't be the ones to let them do it. Australia would be helping an eMerican ally. It would make eAustralia and eUSA allied by association. I then fear how this will effect our relations with PEACE.
@Crazy Quilt Lady lol, thankyou you made my day.
ps. In switzerland we had only one region.
Only in the last month italians gave back the region to us, and not for making a gift...