Canada is down! Spain and Switzerland next? Turkey attacks Greece!
Day 625, 02:16
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by Zoli
Update day 626 - 8:50 eRep time
France attacked Spain . It seems that the high iron region of Fortis and Eden is at risk!
Hungary attacked Switzerland activating 11 of their Alliances. Not a fair fight. Switzerland would need more MPPs.
Bonus: Turkey is declearing war with Greece
If you missed yesterday the battle for Ontario check the movie about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lVxyO93J4. On a brighter note see why Canada has fallen
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Update day 626 - 01:30 eRep time - Read the message of the Supreme Commander of PEACE to the Theocrats: Thank you to the Theocratic Party from PEACE . This should make some things more clear!
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This is my private opinion. Before you start screaming that this is PEACE propaganda I would like to let you know, once again, that I do not hold, I have never held any position inside PEACE.
Another fact that I would like to settle is that PEACE is imperialistic right now. PEACE countries have been oppressed enough in the past, but things have changed and they have become oppressors. In the future the tide will change, but now let’s focus on the present.
Citizenship
While PEACE was so successful doing PTOs everybody was screaming that citizenship is necessary. Now citizenship is working for PEACE again. Citizens of conquered countries have no chance to disrupt internally the countries that conquered them. Canadians can apply for French, UK, Iranian and Hungarian citizenship but these countries can just freeze citizenship so the conquered nations will never have a voice in political life. This way opressors will benefit from the greater population, bigger production and increased tax income generated by companies and citizen from conquered countries, while opressed people have no rights.
Canada
PEACE wanted to take out Canada from the war a long time ago. The first attempt to do this was the Hungarian PTO. The sole purpose of it was to get the majority in Congress and pass sign a peace treaty with France so the war would close and all MPP’s of Canada close. This way they could have kept a few regions. The second attempt to end the war was a peace treaty that required Canada not to fight for 3 months against PEACE and would have allowed Canada to keep a few regions, but they have rejected it. The final solution was the obliteration of Canada. This happens today in Ontario. After today there is going to be no Canada. The fall of Ontario will close the all open wars of Canada and deactivate their active Alliances. This means that when Canada will reappear on the map, they are going to have all signed Alliances but they are not going to be active, so they will fight on their own to get all regions back. Maybe Canada will not fall today, but it is not "if Canada falls" but rather "when Canada falls".
What comes next
The fall of Canada will take out from the North American War one more country – Hungary. As Hungary cannot fight against the USA, their damage, around 600.000 a day will be lost, so the USA and its allies can get the upper hand against Indonesia, Russia and Portugal. There are 2 options right now.
1. Hungary attacks USA. I do not believe this is a likely scenario as it would endanger the regions Hungary took from Canada. In a counter offensive USA could take those regions having all MPP’s activated against Hungary.
2. PEACE will attack another country which has an MPP opened against Hungary. I talk here about Norway and Spain. The main advantage that this action can be financed from the tax income generated by conquered countries and that it would take out more allies of the USA.
Norway
Norway has 6 regions and 443 inhabitants. The total cost of the operation would be 411 GOLD. Around the tax income of Hungary for one day. The war is already opened through Russia. Norway has no real military power but would establish a strong foothold for PEACE in Northern Europe and would get access to Sweden. The battles would drain serious damage for USA allies in this direction. Probably Sweden will focus only on this front.
Spain
This is a much bigger and much more interesting target. France has 10 activated MPP’s against Spain, including Hungary. An attack against Spain will divert the most damage from the USA, as around 80% of Eden and Fortis iron is produces in Asturia, Spain. The loss of that region could deliver a deadly blow for all anti-PEACE efforts. This would be a hard fought battle as Spain has a huge GOLD reserve, which exceeds 15.000 GOLD, so a victory against Spain would be even harder then a victory against the USA. Imagine battles fought in the same time in New Jersey and Asturias. Which region would Fortis and Eden protect.
Switzerland
They could block France in an attack against Spain, so before an attack on Spain, France must conquer Switzerland. The cost of this operation would be very low, as it would cost only 344 GOLD to attack all regions held by Switzerland. This would enrage Theocrats, but things are out of control already.
Croatia
After Norway, Switzerland and Asturias (even if not the entire Spain) I would go against Croatia. They must pay for what they did in Italy. I know you will accuse me that Hungary did the same to them, but we can argue for hours if the chicken or the egg was first. This all started when someone hit back. I bet that if the European front opened up Eden will focus less on the USA.
These battles could go one for the next two months. PEACE will have fun all that time. After that for a couple of more months resistance wars will rage all over the globe This will allow PEACE to train without wasting money, and when all these countries will reemerge, PEACE will have enough money to start from the beginning.
Maybe the tide will change. Maybe, I would say probably PEACE, including Indonesia and Hungary will be crushed by a new rising nation. But we focus on the present. Most of players leave the game after one year.
Come and join the dark side!
PEACE AT HOME!
PEACE IN THE WORLD!
France attacked Spain . It seems that the high iron region of Fortis and Eden is at risk!
Hungary attacked Switzerland activating 11 of their Alliances. Not a fair fight. Switzerland would need more MPPs.
Bonus: Turkey is declearing war with Greece
If you missed yesterday the battle for Ontario check the movie about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lVxyO93J4. On a brighter note see why Canada has fallen
.................
Update day 626 - 01:30 eRep time - Read the message of the Supreme Commander of PEACE to the Theocrats: Thank you to the Theocratic Party from PEACE . This should make some things more clear!
....................
This is my private opinion. Before you start screaming that this is PEACE propaganda I would like to let you know, once again, that I do not hold, I have never held any position inside PEACE.
Another fact that I would like to settle is that PEACE is imperialistic right now. PEACE countries have been oppressed enough in the past, but things have changed and they have become oppressors. In the future the tide will change, but now let’s focus on the present.
Citizenship
While PEACE was so successful doing PTOs everybody was screaming that citizenship is necessary. Now citizenship is working for PEACE again. Citizens of conquered countries have no chance to disrupt internally the countries that conquered them. Canadians can apply for French, UK, Iranian and Hungarian citizenship but these countries can just freeze citizenship so the conquered nations will never have a voice in political life. This way opressors will benefit from the greater population, bigger production and increased tax income generated by companies and citizen from conquered countries, while opressed people have no rights.
Canada
PEACE wanted to take out Canada from the war a long time ago. The first attempt to do this was the Hungarian PTO. The sole purpose of it was to get the majority in Congress and pass sign a peace treaty with France so the war would close and all MPP’s of Canada close. This way they could have kept a few regions. The second attempt to end the war was a peace treaty that required Canada not to fight for 3 months against PEACE and would have allowed Canada to keep a few regions, but they have rejected it. The final solution was the obliteration of Canada. This happens today in Ontario. After today there is going to be no Canada. The fall of Ontario will close the all open wars of Canada and deactivate their active Alliances. This means that when Canada will reappear on the map, they are going to have all signed Alliances but they are not going to be active, so they will fight on their own to get all regions back. Maybe Canada will not fall today, but it is not "if Canada falls" but rather "when Canada falls".
What comes next
The fall of Canada will take out from the North American War one more country – Hungary. As Hungary cannot fight against the USA, their damage, around 600.000 a day will be lost, so the USA and its allies can get the upper hand against Indonesia, Russia and Portugal. There are 2 options right now.
1. Hungary attacks USA. I do not believe this is a likely scenario as it would endanger the regions Hungary took from Canada. In a counter offensive USA could take those regions having all MPP’s activated against Hungary.
2. PEACE will attack another country which has an MPP opened against Hungary. I talk here about Norway and Spain. The main advantage that this action can be financed from the tax income generated by conquered countries and that it would take out more allies of the USA.
Norway
Norway has 6 regions and 443 inhabitants. The total cost of the operation would be 411 GOLD. Around the tax income of Hungary for one day. The war is already opened through Russia. Norway has no real military power but would establish a strong foothold for PEACE in Northern Europe and would get access to Sweden. The battles would drain serious damage for USA allies in this direction. Probably Sweden will focus only on this front.
Spain
This is a much bigger and much more interesting target. France has 10 activated MPP’s against Spain, including Hungary. An attack against Spain will divert the most damage from the USA, as around 80% of Eden and Fortis iron is produces in Asturia, Spain. The loss of that region could deliver a deadly blow for all anti-PEACE efforts. This would be a hard fought battle as Spain has a huge GOLD reserve, which exceeds 15.000 GOLD, so a victory against Spain would be even harder then a victory against the USA. Imagine battles fought in the same time in New Jersey and Asturias. Which region would Fortis and Eden protect.
Switzerland
They could block France in an attack against Spain, so before an attack on Spain, France must conquer Switzerland. The cost of this operation would be very low, as it would cost only 344 GOLD to attack all regions held by Switzerland. This would enrage Theocrats, but things are out of control already.
Croatia
After Norway, Switzerland and Asturias (even if not the entire Spain) I would go against Croatia. They must pay for what they did in Italy. I know you will accuse me that Hungary did the same to them, but we can argue for hours if the chicken or the egg was first. This all started when someone hit back. I bet that if the European front opened up Eden will focus less on the USA.
These battles could go one for the next two months. PEACE will have fun all that time. After that for a couple of more months resistance wars will rage all over the globe This will allow PEACE to train without wasting money, and when all these countries will reemerge, PEACE will have enough money to start from the beginning.
Maybe the tide will change. Maybe, I would say probably PEACE, including Indonesia and Hungary will be crushed by a new rising nation. But we focus on the present. Most of players leave the game after one year.
Come and join the dark side!
PEACE AT HOME!
PEACE IN THE WORLD!
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Nagyon jogos felvetések a citizenshipet illetően 🙂
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Strange. As you say eItaly is a looser anyhow. 🙁.
"Another fact that I would like to settle is that PEACE is imperialistic right now....but things have changed and they have become oppressors."
Thanks for the clarification.
What's the size of the eHungarian gold reserve?
@Publius - I do not know exactly but would go for around 4000 GOLD, but a big part of that is put aside for economic purposes. For the war around 1200 GOLD right now.
Our taxes are much lower then in the USA. We did not PTO aour own people 😛
Great article Zoli, as always!
@Publius: Wouldn't you like to know, eh?...🙂
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nothing about Romania?!
With 5 hours to go the wall in Ontario stands at the middle +180.000. From this point one it is the same effort for Canada and its allies to secure it as it is for France and its allies to conquer it.
If Ontario will not fall today it will fall on the day when Florida and New Jersey gets attacked. It is just a question of time. To bad for them they did not accept to stay out of the war and keep at least a few regions.
@Smif - I would not dare attack you. Sincerelly. That would be the event that would turn the tide against PEACE. There are to many RL issues.
lol 🙂)
Common ..how much hipocrisy can you deliver .
Making the plan to conquer all the world and thinking about the poor guys which communities you have destroyed ? 🙂)
Peace =delivering distruction everywhere with feelings 🙂)
"To bad for them they did not accept to stay out of the war and keep at least a few regions."
We didn't accept that either back then. Look where that got us 🙂
@Smif: Romania is best punished by ignoring you. The imperialist mentality that eRomanians have is hurt by nothing more then being to reduced to a mere peasent on the chess table, while you were the king for so long. Of coures this is a private opinion only.
I think Romania made a huge mistake by activating mpps with the Ukraine. It can be clearly seen from the previous world war that Romania cannot defend itself against Hungary and Indonesia at the same time. And by activating the mpps of Ukraine, the situation is again the same...
Zoli, I wouldn't dare attack Romania with just Hungary either, but through the Ukrainian mpps we have a reasonable chance to conquer even original Romanian regions... of course we know which ones I'm talking about😉
@Galantai: Oltenia, Muntenia, Dobrogea, Moldova and Bucovina, right? 🙂
VERY NICE ARTICLE, VOTED
Haha, please come to Croatia, we are expecting you.
We really need a good reason to have another baby-boom.
And btw. you are the ones that should be punished for the TO in Italy.
If you had sent 50 voters to Italy this TO would have never happened.
@galantai, clawy - this is why I would not attack Romania. Beside the fact Romanians and Hungarians speak a different language the two nations are very alike. If Romania would lose even one original region it would rise to the top just as Hungary did when Romania took original regions from Hungary.
I remember that one year ago Hungary was ranked 22 and now is second. All thanks to the fact that Romania took original Hungarian regions.
That is a path I would avoid.
From what i understood from those wanting to attack Romania, we would be taking our original regions back 🙂
RL hate in a game is so stupid.
Zoli:
Every empire must fall if it is destined to fall... I think we should play the game as it is meant to be played. I would feel very stupid if I didn't even try to take back Erdély just for fear of a Romanian baby-boom. We will meet every obstacle as it rises🙂
Besides, it would certainly make the game a lot more interesting🙂
clawy: i agree!
Ignoring the romanians and not feeding their fears... this is the best approach against them
Galantai, be reasonable. What kind of an act of reparation do you think attacking Transilvania would be?
You will only spark RL hatred and attract more players in the game of the wrong kind, and lose sensible guys like me for adversaries 😛
@Clawy That imperialistic way of thinking you mention can be encountered in your speech threefold. And getting valuable and intelligent players to drop the game just for the sake of revenge is lame, too bad you are thinking like that.
RL hate? But for what? clawy! Can you name the Countries, which decided the Fate of Hungary after the First WW? I'll help you, Romania was none of them, they just took the opportunity...
Too bad we have such a bad relationship with our neighbours RL
Galantai: u really have no ideea about what u r talking.
Please go&play elsewhere.
Mihu:
Come on, it was not a coincidence that Romania tried to destroy Hungary last year...🙂 It is a game, but is fueled by RL emotions for the most part.
Our babyboom was mostly founded on the cry that Romanians are taking over eHungary. And it worked. And I don't think that only extremists and shovinists joined eHungary. A lot of moderate people came to defend their country too. I'm sure the same would happen to Romania. We take Erdély, you have a babyboom, and the whole game just got more interesting🙂 Don't you think?
Otherwise what will happen? We just destroy Canada, then the US, then we take Spain, and every further conquest will just be that much easier... In the end PEACE wins, and what then?...
The game is much more interesting if you take risks🙂 Taking Erdély would be a great risk... but that is what this game is all about, taking risks and enjoying the game🙂
@Czygler: i didn't mean specific country. Serbia-Hungary is in my eyes the symbol in this game that things can work diferently.
Serbia-Croatia, and some atitudes in Hungary-Romania and Poland-Germany are the negativ examples.
@Mihu Copilu: are we imperialistic? Yes we are, i will not deny that. I just said that if we really want to be evil, for some countries conquering them is not the solution. Ignoring them as long as you can is way better. Compare Romanian media and attitude now and in the period where you have important figths.
@Galantai
Trust me I know what kind of people I DON'T want to see playing this game. Do you read Romanian press? If you don't, maybe you should listen to the guys who do, like clawy, the Szekely Legion and so on...
They know very well that this is not an option...
PEACE AT HOME!
PEACE IN THE WORLD!
@Mihu Copilu: same goes for Hungarian media by the way. Why do you think we avoid such sites/newspapers?
Galantai don't confuse IRL issues with erep ones. In game terms, Erdély is useless.
If we start acting against game logic because of preconceptions brought with us from RL, we'll end up like the USA.
Mihu:
I have faith in people... There are extremists everywhere, but there will ALWAYS be more moderate people, than extremists. Of course we had some stupid nazis joining our country as well... but they will ALWAYS be overpowered by the moderate voices.
Stop mixing RL with eRep. Please, come to Romania if you dare. We have cookies!
Stupid worthless PEACE propaganda...
Jurily:
In game terms the whole of Hungary was useless... If RL had nothing to do this game than we would have fictive countries with made-up boundaries. Instead we have a RL world map with RL countries and RL nations. I believe the game is an alternative reality, where you can try to take risks and enjoy the excitement, without having to fear for your life. IRL wars are always costly, people die. Here you can wage wars as you please, and no one will get hurt.
IRL I wouldn't think about attacking Erdély... here no one gets hurt, so we should not be afraid to live out our fantasies🙂 This is after all what every game is about...
Weirdgus: What an original opinion! Don't you have any real thoughts?
"PEACE wanted to take out Canada from the war a long time ago. The first attempt to do this was the Hungarian PTO. The sole purpose of it was to get the majority in Congress and pass sign a peace treaty with France so the war would close and all MPP’s of Canada close. This way they could have kept a few regions. The second attempt to end the war was a peace treaty that required Canada not to fight for 3 months against PEACE and would have allowed Canada to keep a few regions, but they have rejected it. The final solution was the obliteration of Canada."
Oh, how nice of you! How good treat for the Canadians trying to put them aside! And you even tried three times, for their sick! This is trully friendly!
@Zoli: nu sunteti sus pentru ca Romania v-a luat 5 regiuni din 7, sunteti sus pentru ca ati fost ajutati de admini, admini care au oprit modulul de razboi cu 24 de ore inainte ca voi sa fiti cuceriti complet.
Inca o data... propaganda ieftina, dar ce sa astept de la un om care declara ca nu va lupta decat in razboaie de aparare, banuiesc ca si cucerirea Canadei e tot razboi de aparare.
esafrany I pity those like you that start to actually believe their own propaganda 🙁
Zoli, I am a newbie and I didn't get the time you switched parts, have you really promised that you will ONLY fight for Hungary in DEFENCE? I'm just curious to know how much I can trust your words. Please reply honestly, if you don't someone else will clarify this for me and you might not prefer this way.
Romanians:
When you try your best but you don't succeed
When you get what you want but not what you need
When you feel so tired but you can't sleep
Stuck in reverse
When the tears come streaming down your face
When you lose something you can't replace
When you love someone but it goes to waste
Could it be worse?
Lights will guide to home
And ignite to bones
And I will try to fix you
And high up above or down below
When you're too in love to let it go
If you never try then you'll never know
Just what you're worth
Lights will guide to home
And ignite to bones
And I will try to fix you
Tears stream down your face
When you lose something you cannot replace
Tears stream down your face
And I...
Tears stream down your face
I promise you that I'll learn from my mistakes
Tears stream down your face
And I...
Lights will guide to home
And ignite to bones
And I will try to fix you
Thank you, gonzo23, I really like the song "Fix you" by Coldplay too!
Yay, nice song
@ Clawy
You are right, that's why I advocated the last Podolia adventure. Maybe we should encourage Galantai instead of telling him the truth.
@ Galantai
I remember you telling me once that RL Transivania is very important to you. Attacking it in a web based game will not make you feel better. "IRL I wouldn't think about attacking Erdély... here no one gets hurt," well, people's feeling and sensibilities will surely do.
Da ronina , asta a zis . El a zis multe la eviata lui , cam inconsecvent mosu . Poti sa cauti prin articolele lui mai vechi ca sa te convingi . In rest e baiat de treaba , cred 🙂
@gonzo23
A eRoménia merece que lhe dediques uma música menos emo.
lets Destroy Crotia First 🙂
Mihu:
Of course, Erdély is very important to all Hungarians... IRL we got screwed. Here we can try to make up for it, and again: no one gets hurt. Obviously some people's feelings might, but it is a game, the loser obviously does not feel very good about losing🙂
Conquering Canada makes me feel good too, that is why I play. But Erdély is a whole different level...
There will always be rivalry between Hungary and Romania in everything, because of our RL issues. But as long as people realize that this is just a game (just like sports) and don't hate their adversaries, it can be fun for everyone🙂 Obviously less fun for those who lose, but we have seen in this past year that the tide can turn very quickly... so each of us will have their share of good times and bad equally🙂
@Ronina - I did not say I will fight only on the defender side. When I left eRomania for eHungary I said I will fight for them as original eHungarian regions where under occupation and specidied I will come back to eRomania to help them if original eRomanian territories are under attack.
I never said I will fight in every war for the defenders of original lands.
I've said if original eRomanian or eHungarian regions will be under attack I'll fight to defende those regions.
@Galantai
Talking about RL, you didn't get screwed at all. Otherwise you wouldn't have so many Hungarian players from Romania gladly fighting for the Red, White and Green banner. And trust me, they don't do that because they want to get back to us for being oppressed (which they aren't) or marginalized, but because they feel proud being Hungarian nationals.
Try not to hold this grudge on people nowadays for things that happened almost 100 years ago.
Mihu:
I'm not holding a grudge... I don't really have anything against Romanians, I don't hate them or anything.
For us 100 years are nothing... Our country has been standing for 1009 years now, 90 years from that is really nothing🙂
But I wonder: for how long would you hold your grudge if 2/3 of Romania would be taken away? I know you as good patriots, so I would expect for you to feel bad about that for at least 100 years too...🙂
That is a problem with regions of mixed population. Erdély (or Ardeal to you) is just as important for us Hungarians, as it is for you. Those in power should respect the others' feelings, so that the other side will respect theirs when they are in power. We Hungarians failed on some level to do that before 1920, and Romanians failed to do that after 1920...
We are all in Europe now, we should find a way to resolve these issues between us, so that Romanians and Hungarians can both feel comfortable in their homeland, Erdély (or Ardeal).