A Non Paranoid Look At The Possible War
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Desertfalcon
First off I am not a member of PEACE nor am I member of the president's cabinet. I don't have all the information that the president and Eugene has, however I didn't have all the information last month and I was still able to tell that the whole PTO attempt was just a bunch of hot air. Last month Glados said the U.S. would fall on June 15th, this was the date of the PP elections and the administration got all worked up about this one guy running for party president of the UIP saying that he was a PEACE drone. Now PTOing a party presidential seat is pointless in the sense that yes the PP can control who runs but they can't restrict people from running unless multiple people from the party want to run in the same state. So worse case scenario a few UIP members wouldn't be able to run in the congress election in the larger states. The attempt however came nowhere close to succeeding, not because the whole country responded to the threat but because their really wasn't a threat.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/elections/country-24-election-party-100-date-2009-06/1
As you can see the PEACE "threat" only got 17% of the vote while Ansen only got 40 more votes then he did in last months election. That is completely normal and there were no signs of a PTO attempt whatsoever, the only real basis for this was the fact that Glados said America would crumble on June 15th.
Now Glados says America will crumble on July 15th and America is running for cover. Our administration sees that Indonesia is working their way towards Hawaii and that Hungary now borders Canada and is doing everything they can to gear this nation up for what they call an inevitable invasion. While I admit it is unnerving having Indonesia border Hawaii I am not worried at all of them making a serious invasion of the western United States because of the simple reason everyone is over looking Indonesia does not need to border the U.S. to attack the U.S.. We currently have an open war with Portugal and France from a long time ago, both countries had MPPs with Indonesia and both of them could launch an offensive into the east with the help of Indonesia.
Attacking from the west would most likely just be a diversion if anything. Indonesia knows that they won't be able to hold out alone against the U.S. and all their allies should they attack one of the U.S. regions and they also know that opening up those MPPs would jeopardize some of their claims in Asia that the U.S. could attack without activating MPPs, however just holding Japan does two things for Peace, one it makes America hit the panic button and prepare for an invasion of the west, and two it blocks off any chance of the U.S. expanding into Japan.
If we are going to see a massive invasion its most likely going to be on the east coast with France and Portugal going after New Jersey and Florida respectively to take out two of our Q5 hospitals and trap the majority of our military behind enemy lines. Now I would be more worried about losing Florida since that region has more people then New Jersey and has a much higher risk of being Invaded. France will only have 3 allies when they invade but Portugal will have 9. What we would probably see is France attack New Jersey to get all the American's and their allies to fight and then have Portugal attack Florida so most of PEACE can fight after most American's are done. We may win the first few days but its important to realize that if this were to happen PEACE could keep launching these assaults with all their allies until they succeed and they have the luxury of being able to spread us thin since they can attack so many regions at once.
All in all though I think we will be fine. Our allies should be enough deterrent to hold off Indonesia in the west and Canada's should be able to hold off Hungary should they try to invade North America, the only place PEACE poses a real threat is on the East Coast and even then we should be able to hold them back, they may manage to take a region or two however as long as we can refrain from attacking Portugal or France again we can keep growing our MPPs to help us defend and take back any regions we lose. Still this could just all be a distraction like it was last month, from what I am not sure of however it benefits PEACE on a global scale to have us clamp down in fear of invasion and not divert resources to another country.
Comments
Pertamaxxx
Lolz. What about your region Hawaii.
DS, I agree.
zoops, aren Perry above
Nice evaluation. Voted.
What about it, Indonesia tries to take it then they will soon have to defend their Asian regions by themselves from the U.S. and about 15 other allies
Keeps them from being bored.
Being bored is bad.
Your correct in that it doesn't make strategic sense for PEACE GC to attack the US. May I submit an example from my favorite subject, history.
In 1941 Nazi Germany controlled most of Europe, it was secured in the West by the Atlantic Ocean and in the East by a non-aggression pact with Soviet Russia. Hitler and Stalin may have been ideological rivals but both realized the insanity of a war between Nazi Germany and the USSR.
Nazi Germany however did attack, one of the greatest strategic blunders in history. The Russians were caught off guard, why? Stalin in signing the non-aggression pact assumed that Hitler was like him; rational and logical. Hitler needless to say was not.
Point being don't assume your enemy thinks like you, or even logically.
IMAO
p.s. In no way do I mean to compare you with Stalin. 😉
Wow, missing the forest for the trees! PEACE will not attack from France or Portugal because of activating the MPP's. Their current plan is much slicker, by going through 3rd countries there is absolutely no risk we can counterattack with our MPP's in effect, all they need to do to keep us in our current box is to return the jumping off regions back to the UK and Japan. This is a risk free shot at the US, if it doesn't work they retreat behind countries that didn't attack us, so no MPP's in effect!
"While I admit it is unnerving having Indonesia border Hawaii I am not worried at all of them making a serious invasion of the western United States because of the simple reason everyone is over looking Indonesia does not need to border the U.S. to attack the U.S.. We currently have an open war with Portugal and France from a long time ago, both countries had MPPs with Indonesia and both of them could launch an offensive into the east with the help of Indonesia."
1) It was joked about that Indo would take Hawaii for awhile. They're going to hold to their word. Just as much as GLaDoS stated that the eUS will be attacked. Sure, the date could be wrong, but the word can still be held. It's just a matter of "when" not "if".
2) It opens up more fronts. More fronts = more feint attacks = more guessing to the strategy. Ever played chess?
A nice analysis, DS, but I am afraid Bienville presents a serious challenge. I'd be interested to see your response. Voted.
I'm with Bienville. I never realized that before. More than likely they'll test us out and if we're too strong they can easily pull back. From what I see, PEACE hates us, but they also know that war with us is going to be no easy task so they keep their distance. Also, how come no one has considered a possible attack from Mexico? Last I checked, they're PEACE affiliated and could give us some quick hits in the South for further distraction.
I can't stand the waiting. I wish we could just throw down already.
@ Bienville
It would be impossible to attack our original regions without opening up MPPs. They won't be able to beat us alone and they will need those MPPs from France and Portugal if they want to win. They can start RWs in Japan and the U.K. to prevent the U.S. from going further but The MPPs will be activated regardless when they launch an attack on American soil.
@ Elderon
You want a chess analogy? Right now Indonesia taking Hawaii is about as much a threat as a pawn walking all the way down the board, its easy to stop and allthough it is a new front its not much of a threat.
Doesn't our alliance w/ the UK expire in like 3 days too? PEACE may be making one hell of an assumption that returning Scotland to the UK will slow a US counter attack....
of course I'm putting the cart before the horse here, since we haven't yet been attacked...
PEACE would be making one hell of an assumption if they believe that Hungary alone would be able to take on half the world.
Everyone knew last month was a hoax..
I think we've acted in the best interests of the country. Better safe than sorry.
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@ HR
Really? Last month I received several frantic PMs from UIP members and distinctly remember a ton of articles urging people to go join the UIP and vote for Ansen.
Ok France just attacked Nova Scotia, looks like they will go for the east coast
"and two it blocks off any chance of the U.S. expanding into Japan."
If this was the main objective wouldn't MPP's with Japan be a far better option?
I would think that the main benefit would be the ability to create a diversion battle in Hawaii, and cede Kyushu back to Japan if things got too hot for Indo alone.
Good article though. And yes, last month there were quite a few in the government who didn't know whether the threat was real or not.
This should be fun, even if we lose we can resistence fight until the cows come home... Lets hope we can slow them and wear down their finances so that we can eat away at their appetite for war.
It hurts us because for the past couple days we haven't been able to train.
You are correct about activating our MPP's for Defense when they attack an original territory --- but if their attack fails there is no threat of counterattacks with our MPP's like there would be if France or Portugal attacked. They believe that in a post Atlantis world many of the countries we have MPP's with will not help defend the eUS --- the eUK for example. Look for spoiling attacks against Sweden and other Allies that would otherwise help us defend. The new Hungary --- UK war will provide Hungary direct access. France keeps Canada occupied, Ukraine keeps Romania or Sweden occupied, Indo attacks Hawaii while Hungary attacks Vermont ---- that leaves the eUS and Spain defending against the top 2 military powers.
@ Bienville
They already attacked the way I said they would so its a moot point.
lol this article turned out to be completely and utterly wrong....heh
Yeah.
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Totalz.