[PM]Week 2 - The War Rages On...
![United Kingdom](http://www.erepublik.net/images/flags_png/S/United-Kingdom.png)
Dishmcds
Yesterday evening Erepublik time, the battle for London began. There's been much news from Americans and EDEN members alike singing "London Bridge is falling down" (even if most don't know the right words), and telling us how "Josh Frost" is coming to London.
Our response, as a Nation, and an Alliance, overwhelmingly was that they cannot into London. I'm sure they'll blame bugs, servers, and other various problems on this battle, because we all know they never lose, but know that it is our determination as an Alliance and Nation as a whole that has built this wall.
![](http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129094296491711397.jpg)
Not only that, but we managed to overcome their last minute efforts in China, which Serbia is now the sole owner of Liaoning, the region that the US and EDEN so highly gloated over retrieving from our allies in Iran.
Serbia shall for here on out be known as Ironmen.
![](http://www.historyguy.com/comicshistory/iron_man_beats_cap.jpg)
Let's be clear, there's only one reason anyone had a chance in China to begin with: When this invasion started, we all warned that invading a country with no resource or economic gain would cause EDEN problems. Now, they're going to be mad since they were proven to be incorrect of their assessment. The UK will not take "3 minutes" to invade and conquer. We've proven that for quite a while. It is a long process of eliminating a country completely.
Earlier this week, Poland and EDEN managed to overcome a furious defence of North of Brazil, a by-product of the invasion of Liaoning. Just after it's conquest a Resistance War started which not many gave a chance. Almost every country involved, including the Spanish, Croatian, Polish, and American armies spent themselves silly trying to defend it, yet we still came out victorious.
Just afterwards, we offered a white peace to all Nations invading the UK. This meant we got all our regions back, and all our wars would be closed. EDEN has chosen to decline the offer, after we told them that these tactics will only result in their losses.
Now that Serbia has their Iron, and China's chances of retrieving it are highly unlikely (after EDEN left it out to dry when they chose to invade Brazil rather than defend it), I'll ask this question again, and this time in the open.
![](http://www.valuebasedmanagement.net/images/picture_value_mapping_performance_management.jpg)
How long are you willing to pursue a conquest which gains you nothing, when you are losing in the venues which actually carry value? Will you actually risk losing Karnataka, you're only colony that contains Iron, because you choose to be stubborn? Will you actually go broke before you realise that this is a war that will not gain you anything of value from your own standpoint?
You may not value the UK, however, we do. We value it as our home, and where we will live. We'll fight for it until we can no longer, whenever that may be, and we shall not submit until every UK region is back where it belongs.
Are you willing to do the same, with regions that do not hold that same value to you?
Sincerely,
Dishmcds
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dishmcds is great
came.
Requesting an amigo to english translation pl0x.
I apologise Krems. I know the words are too big for you to understand.
the yanks cannot into London!
ive moved to london to fight for the eUK
rise phoenix RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISE
voted, We will survive 🙂
Go Dish!
He is indeed a fine war leader in the best British tradition.
In the meantime, I do hope that the yankee doodles enjoy their day trip to London, and I trust that they brought their cameras, as they'll only be taking their memories back with them.
Hopefully, we can make a reciprocal visit - sometime soon! \o/
Brilliant article I salute you sir.
>I apologise Krems. I know the words are too big for you to understand.
Yes please, if you could place a translation in all of you future articles to DERP I would be grateful.
>you future
I see your problem, and will try to help you with it in the future.
This article is sub par at best.
nice
appreciated. As a kindness I won't go through your article and point out the mistakes I noticed :3
Serbia are the ironmen
London is OK for now, DEFEND TURKEY'S LAST Q5 HOSPITAL REGION !!!http://www.erepublik.com/en/battles/show/9164
the yanks attack to London is sub par at best
2,300,000 points and the wall keeps growing
London shall not fall ... Ironmen is coming ...
I read Dishmcds article and I...Jizz in My Pants
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY)
I wish fights for London would show up..glitchy much?
v+s
Hail UK
Hail Serbia
Hail Phoenix
We shall, we shall, we shall not be moved....
Glados, Woldy, and Dish.. the Gayumvirate. The 3 most annoying people in eRep.
dishfail
Necrosis' face is sub par at best.
That's too nice really but I was in a good mood...
Phoenix will stand strong! o7
When will EDEN learn...pointless war is pointless!
All because six months ago eUK decided not to be in alliance with them and went their own way.
Thousands of gold, and several low-resource regions later, what has eUSA achieved, except to embarrass themselves with their pettiness!
Oh, and Necrosis is a *%!$
🙂
cum and vote
i'm gladed we re-elected you dish.
Serbia is credit to team!
Prepare to see eSerbia on steroids 😃 First gift from Ironman: british flag over Washington 🙂 Just be patient 🙂
Voted o/
I wanted to see what the British spin was on the London invasion (such as it was) so I came prowling around the English politico's papers. I found you and I think you did an excellent job of presenting a focused argument on why EDEN should not continue the invasion.
Though I am but a grunt in the eAmerican Warmachine (a wink at the Iron Man reference above) I'll do my best to address these questions.
"How long are you willing to pursue a conquest which gains you nothing, when you are losing in the venues which actually carry value? Will you actually risk losing Karnataka, you're only colony that contains Iron, because you choose to be stubborn?"
Karnataka is an eAmerican fortress state now and if things got really hairy we could make it impregnable—and those of former PEACE know what that looks like. I doubt very much that there will come a day that we must choose to continue the war against eUK or keep Karnataka, USA. At worst, our war will be stalled.
As for the zero value gains of conquering the eUK, you are seriously undervaluing the price of peace of mind; The cost of honor; The worth of destroying that which needs to be destroyed for no other reason than it is a miserable excuse for a sovereign power.
Do you remember what the eUK did to us? The subtle shift of alliances? The deceptive "war games"? The blithe occupation in the early days of WWIII? The eUK directly facilitated the near destruction of the eUSA and you are questioning our motives and resolve?
Your argument is that of a would-be assassin negotiating his life over the price of our high-priced bullets. The eUK is a dismal, low-grade resource target. Agreed. But there are more lofty aspirations for a country's soldiers than high resources regions. There is the grim resolution to ending what was begun long ago in a manner befitting honor and justice.
London has not burned this day or the last. But it must and it will.
Lol, K
I don't get it. For weeks, you were yelling "push the button! push the button!", apparently believing you and Rus/Hung/Serbia would immediately push us back into the sea. Not a single Welsh sheep would be harmed in the American folly.
Now, with the UK reduced to two regions, and Ireland united, you are suing for peace, basically, saying, "hey, just leave us alone, and we'll close the wars and pretend this never happened".
Well, which is it?
>reduced to two regions
I lol'd
LOL @ eUSA 😃
"The cost of honour; The worth of destroying that which needs to be destroyed for no other reason than it is a miserable excuse for a sovereign power."
I thought we were talking about the eUK, not eSweden, and their God awful betrayal? My mistake I suppose.
"Your argument is that of a would-be assassin negotiating his life over the price of our high-priced bullets."
Except it isn't though.... is it? I don't see our 'life' under threat in any way at the moment.
...Or has all this so far been another Eden trial run?
Admittedly, I was not born when things prior to WWIII occurred. (I was born two days before eFrance began attacking eCananda.) I have to rely on what is said and discussed within the greater eRep community and the local political debates for my information. Here, the writing of history is a communal effort, ala eWiki. This is what I have to go on as facts:
“After a series of complicated region swaps, France had ceded a large portion of Canada to the United Kingdom, who while allied with PEACE, had open wars with them from previous conflicts and was able to attack and retreat most of its allies. Thus it came to be that Hungary came to control Nunavut, Manitoba and Saskatchewan, using it's control of Scotland as a spring into Canada. Iran took control of Yukon and the Northwest Territories, while the UK itself was left with PEI, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick and after France had used it to invade British Columbia, Alberta.”
(eRepublik Wiki, World War III, France Vs Canada, P. 5)
@ Jacen Molare -
"I see the reason that we wanted eUSA to attack ... is really we want you to see the stupidity of your actions on continued aggression toward the eUK." (Jacen Molare)
This is the same reason we are attacking but with the national names in reverse. The eUK was deceitful, facilitated land-swapping with eHungary into Canada, and held occupations. This is aggression without any public discussion on our side of the water. To the eAmerican view one day the eUK was going to join FORTIS, the next they are occupying eCanada without provocation. That is a betrayal by any standard you care to measure it.
"I'll be honest, I never agreed with our decision to join PEACE, but it was OUR decision to make as a nation." (Jacen Molare)
An individual's choice buries a man. A nation's choice destroys a nation. The choice has been made and the only arbiter of a choice's worth is whether they can prosper and survive by it. EDEN intends to prove to the eUK that it was a wrong choice. That it was a hurtful, nation-crippling choice for its maker. There is no way to prove this but by shattering the hope and aspirations of the eUnited Kingdom so utterly that the truth is even apparent to the unbeliever.
Thanks for the thoughts Exalted, and nice to hear your perspective. However, the eUK was never any threat to eUSA, and at such time, were helping it's allies end eUSA imperialism. I didn't agree with the invasion, but there it is...
I also think events will show that the eUK's decision to leave the eMerican sphere of influence will prove the right decision.
"eUSA imperialism" ~Any eUK Citizen
I'm confused by this. I loosely define Imperialism as 'A policy of extending political authority over foreign territories for the purpose of economically subjugating the inhabitance.' (my own definition) In essence, one nation being greedy for another's resources and taking them.
In this very article the eUK President has stated emphatically that there is nothing of value in the eUK to justify EDEN's aggression. She has expressed her bewilderment at why a multi-national alliance would forgo eRepublik's game mechanic-based motivation for rewards with no intrinsic value.
There is none. So it must, by simple logic, be something different.
There are plenty of perfectly suited words to describe what EDEN is doing in the eUK but Imperialism isn't one of them. Buy a damned dictionary, Brits.
@ Jacen Molare -
I appreciated hearing your views as well. History and a lot of tanking will decide the decision's worth.
EDEN losses its balls. Ah hell. 🙁
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