[Foreign Affairs]Foreign Affairs and You
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Dishmcds
Over the last few days we've seen articles written by the Minister of Defence as well as eUK, eGerman, and ePolish citizens regarding the eUK in this war. Most of what people "think" has come down to not realising the circumstances beyond their own interactions within our nation, so a little more explanation that what we've received thus far is most likely in order.
These are not official explanations, but that of someone who's around enough to get the feel.
The History of the Nordics
Back in February, as the Minister of Trade, we were approached by people within the eGerman government shortly after their "liberation" from Sweden through Operation Burning Spirit. Burning Spirit was mobilised almost completely and paid for in large part by PEACE to "liberate" almost every German region at once from Swedish rule (forgive me if I miss a couple of details, I wasn't in on the planning and it's been a long time since then). DKN and Justin Tyme approached the UK in an effort to become a "neutral" nation, even with their close ties to PEACE.
Initially, we were hesitant, for obvious reasons. We knew about their affiliations and the close and sour relationships they had with a well known and long time member of ATLANTIS. We took them at face value, asking them to earn allegience with the eUK through strong diplomacy.
They took that and agreed, and we soon signed the Berlin Pact (which no one used, but meh) to try and create stronger relationships between our nations. Germany expressed remorse for the actions of Governments before them, their aggressions towards the Poles (they conquered the Poles in Beta, and were in turn politically taken over by Polish because of it), and continually used the "this is not the same Germany response when asked about their previous aggressions.
Even before Burning Spirit, they had begun making plans of conquering other nations before they had their own nation to do it from, yet we still allowed them, as a country, to prove their worth.
Then comes the joining of ATLANTIS.
Germany's biggest mistake was joining ATLANTIS when their allegience overall should have been PEACE to begin with. It was the PEACE military forces which freed them, and kept them safe (they held an MPP with Indonesia up until they joined ATLANTIS). They did so under the guise of "a Hungarian Attack", which I can not confirm nor deny myself, but through thick and thin you do not turn your back on those who aide you. Especially when they front you an entire Q5 hospital for free on your word, which you never pay back.
It was during this time, they joined ATLANTIS and the conflict between the population of Germany and Sweden took a nose dive. They worked as passive members and managed to sustain for a while, but it was inevitable that conflict would occur. It was simply bound to happen. Poland, in this sense, felt justified for invading Germany because of the previous transgressions, and Sweden has always felt betrayed by Germany with no apology, response, or care.
When ATLANTIS fell, and Sweden invaded Germany, most official military units stayed away from Sweden and Germany, including both PEACE and ATLANTIS nations. I know many Indonesians who still felt betrayed by Germany joining ATLANTIS, and many ATLANTIS nations who felt betrayed by Burning Spirit. Why would they commit to saving a country which had betrayed them both?
The only response you'll get now about previous actions from Germany is that was old Germany, we're different now. That's the same thing every administration since Sulla has said in Germany, which dates back to June of last year.
So as a nation, the United Kingdom left it alone. We chose to remain neutral in the personal conflict between Germany and Sweden, although many of us chose to fight on our own through the MPP that had been signed. That's ok. Even I myself fought for Germany in a few of those battles, just to get my hits in, and because I felt like defending it would be the proper thing to do for me.
Moving On, What this Means to You, the Citizen of the United Kingdom
Germany turning back to PEACE to regain their regions is simply a means to an end. I'm quite tired of hearing and reading the things people say about the UK "needing to choose sides" or "join Alliances" or so on.
To put it as bluntly as possible, The United Kingdom needs to worry about itself, and only itself. We have our allies and friends, and this conflict has nothing to do with us. Poland are long time allies, but honestly PEACE isnt scared of a country like the UK which is lower on the damage scale (barely beats Ireland in the Training War) and Poland knows that we're not going to beat Hungary by ourselves.
In short, none of them really care. We need to worry about getting ourselves right, staying neutral, and taking care of the United Kingdom. We're hardly in the position to attempt "World Police". We don't do enough damage, and our economy isnt strong enough to take on countries like Sweden (who will soon be back to original regions) or Hungary.
tl;dr:
1. Sweden and Germany can take care of themselves. Thats a personal feud. If Germany didnt want to handle it, they shouldnt have picked that fight. PEACE will use Germany as a means to an end, which is their own choice. But the UK needs to be it's "own man" so to speak.
2. Quit blaming the UK for your own failures in Erepublik. We've made mistakes, sure. We all have. But we're not the ones that got conquered either.
3. Strength in Diplomacy lies in not bowing to pressure and not blaming others for your own problems. Self Responsibility is a beautiful thing.
Sincerely, with Love,
Dishmcds
Comments
Very nice article Dishmcds!
It's a very good article, once again has my vote.
I would like to stress that although Germany may seem the victims in this, it is important to aid our previous allies. With PEACE on a rampage it is quite important to keep relations with ex-Atlantis countries strong. They are after all our friends. That's why we have helped Poland.
Good article, but I would like to point out that we did pay for the hospital. Please also note that support from PEACE as a whole came in the end, we did our best to maintain former Atlantis support such as eCanada, eUK and partially the eUSA.
eJapanese came from their own terms, of which we are thankful for. In the end though, it came down to being forgotten and destroyed or to allow something to formulate a nation once more. You're right though, the same excuse will be made as it's made with every nation. When something bad in an administration happens, they tend to put the blame on the previous one taking little to no responsibility.
However this is somewhat the case and not all that much the case with eGermany, we PUSHED to make amends with Sweden and Poland and because of that, we did take some form of responsibility. Of course different aspects of failed diplomacy did ultimately crush any peaceful settlements.
As for the eUK and eGermany? Well, the war granted training to troops and the eUK was defending an ally regardless. The fact of the matter is that Sweden and Poland decided to disrupt the last skeleton form of Atlantis, which was already a dying and diseased wreck. Many people didn't appreciate it and supported eGermany in defending itself from a very powerful enemy.
Should the eUK work on it's own policy now that eGermany has been crushed and reformed? Well I'd imagine it should as you said, look to it's own. However I don't think the eUK should make a complete turn and suddenly fight against us. Whatever foreign policy that is agreed on in the eUK will be respected, even with PEACE in control of any future eGerman state, relations will be held with our friends no matter what.
Quite succintly put.
As usual Dish, great article. Some things that I didn't know previously have helped me form a more knowledgable judgement about the situation.
I am Glad(os) you went back to help the UK
Just for your information, Germany has paid of the Q5 Hospital it got from Indonesia in full.
Dish if you like it or not eGermany will try to remain/enhance the relation to eUK as we did since Sulla.
Don't implicate me in the decision to join ATLANTIS; I pushed for PEACE ever since the beginning.
Also Germany paid the full price of starting all the RWs (NOT fighting them however, but we did pay our fair share).
1. They didnt pay for the hospital initially, and had every intention of screwing Indonesia. Yow know it, I know it.
2. Justin, I believe the quote says you and DKN negotiated with the UK. If you can find me somewhere in there where I spoke of you and ATLANTIS personally, then please do. Otherwise, read it closer next time. You also paid the RW's. Great. What about the moving tickets, weapons, time and energy that was spent by the tacticians that freed you?
3. Zoli: Well, I am too I think.
4. Nolan: Well, the article might sound like I'm being a complete ass towards Germany, but I'm not. Really, while I prefer seeing Germany alive and well, I wouldnt be willing to throw the entirety of the UK in the middle of a conflict of both Alliances (ex-enemies, however you want to say it). If we anger PEACE, they're next door. If we anger ex-ATLANTIS, they're right next door, so either way, it's just better to remain neutral.
The overall point of the article was to communicate that part of it.
You have to take only 1 thing under consideration : If you won't fight (doesn't matter where or with whom) you will never develope your military (nor economical) potential. That's just the way eRep works.
Best regards
@Dish, Aye, I don't see you as making yourself out to be an 'ass', you've made some fairly fine points in many regards. The foreign policy being discussed here makes sense due to current political and military issues being thrown around in the world.
I know many citizens of the eUK share your view on seeing eGermany alive and well, but also many probably feel that throwing all of eUK's military into the fray is not worth it. That much is up to the people, although I'd have rather see the eUK government to respect our nation instead of supporting those whom have destroyed it.
"I am Glad(os)"
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Great article,
The eUK should work on building a smaller but more coherent alliance with some of the former RLBritish Empire(Canada, NZ, Austraila) countries and eUSA
as always great article