D1 BH , a right of the old ones ?!
VampireA
So .. I didn't write in a while, lack of time beeing one of the many reasons but couldn't pass this one. A thing that happens quite frequentlt but not many debate it.
The story is simple, a friend of mine.. pretty small (4 k str) beeing 3 months old wanted to get his 1st BH medal ( not the 1st try ) . So he choses a fight where the BH is 180k damage, and goes all in with the BB and ff hits ( he spent all his gold to achieve 5 mil dmg in another battle but that turned up to be epic so he lost it , but helped some allies ) moving the wall from 20% to 77% in a battle clearly won by the side he is fighting. (this happened somewhere at T 20-30)
Meanwhile a huge dude ( over 80 k str ) that had the 1st hit sees that a small player had the nerv to fight and goes over him without asking anything , without giving a damn the other player is new and eager to discover and achieve something .. ( having over 1 k BH medals ,1 more medal and 2 gold are really important when you are so big in D1 ). Just as a personal remark : at that str you can give that dmg in less then 1 minute if you really want to punish someone.
This thing is pretty comune , so my question is ... are the D1 BH a right of the huge players that prefer not to fight a huge period of time , just 2 click mode just so they can bully in a division destinated to new players ?
Just as a personal view: I think that beeing older and seeing so much in this game and also achieveing so much ( at least in the military module ) should bring you some experience that you can share with someone new... sending a message to a new player, a little player , takes only 1 minute and it shows him this game is based on people socialization and maybe teach him that beeing kind to another human beeing is maybe more important then a virtual medal.
If the new player can't understand something like this you have the power and time to punish him .. but what if he does and it is another step for bringing him closer to this game and encouraging him to continue in a game where many old players say that it is dying ( maybe it is also your fault that you don't pay enough atention and don't give importance to the new players , rembember the old days when we were all equal and there was a single BH per battle but there weren't so many steals ) .
Never forget that you were young once and how hard and annoying was when something like this happened.
Or maybe I am too old, achieved to much and reached the point where medals and achievements don’t matter that anymore ?
So what is your opinion about this subject, what would have you done and why ?
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Yes and no. New players can always do like the rest of us and just patiently get a decent amount of strenght before going wild in battles. I'll never be able to compete in division 4 but I do stand a chance in div 1, 2 and 3 since strong players will level up sooner or later and leave space for us.
It's of course ugly to steal a BH in any case, but it depends on how it's done. Keep in mind the BH medal is for those that actually are strong, not for those that go for achievements right at the start.
ok ..but see it this way ..I am a player with 90 k str...I just stood as 2cliker all my elife and now I am going for BH .. a player that is starting the game can't reach that level ever .. no matter how patient ..
I would cry with you but I know it's useless 😉
51k, D1, of course you say that... This patiente you are talking about ist actually killing the game.... Only less new player stay playing, and thats one of the reasons. Its not "only Plato"....
This is a longterm game, it requires patience... it's not the fact that the game is slow that ruins it, it's simply just uninteresting.
I worked hard for my strenght, I will require the newbies to do the same. Not saying I'll steal BH's though.
actualy ..you didn't worked for the str ..you just stood 2 cliker 😁)
And you have had another eLive... how was in the other case? You have seen whats the game going on and stay in 2 click mode... nothing against it, but the most of the newy don't know about the consequences of going too fast to Div2. Any way, interesting discussion! Thanks for the article!
thx for the comments ..i would prefer to have a short article and a lot of comments and discusions
So that D1 bully is actually frustrated boy who never got that welcome message when he started to play :'(
Moral of the story: welcome new players or they could become antisocial idiots.
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my mommy always told me it's a jungle out there 🙁
my dad told me the same thing too. 🙂
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Normal că bătăușii au toate drepturile. Dacă nu ești bătăuș, cum vrei să ai succes în modulul militar?
hmm ..luptand inteligent ? 🙂
acum depinde ce inseamna succes ..sa ai cele mai multe medalii sau sa apari in luptele importante si sa te faci remarcat ?
Eu as prefera astia de tau tare cand coneaza decat astia care fura medalii unora care nu au nici 5% din str lor.
Pentru ei alea sunt luptele importante și în alea se fac remarcați. E aproape ca și cum te-ai supăra că ai mai puțin gold decât unul care a început mai demult și a fost consecvent. N-ai cum să sancționezi lipsa bunului simț. Astea sunt regulile jocului.
asta cu goldul e discutabil ...
Daca ai card faci rapid mai mult gold ca altu 😁)
dar str nu ai cum 😛
Daca esti bataus esti mereu singur... 🙂 sa ai succes pe plan militar pararea mea este ca ar trebuii sa activezi intr-o unitate militara, sa fi un grup organizat si sa ii ajuti pe cei mici sa creasca ca doar asa un grup devine puternic si are succes pe plan militar... altfel raman doar cei mari.. am mai vazut un UM cu doar 7 sau 8 soldati... mirific.... ce sa zic... Mie mi se pare ca povestioara asta este doar asa o chestie de fala... mandrie.. si este un bataus prost ca isi arata muschi fata de cei care nu au nici-o sansa in concurenta cu el...
Dacă te plângi, nu rezolvi nimic. Am pierdut multe BH-uri în aproape toate diviziile (n-am prins deloc D1), știu cum e. Unitățile alea nu sunt UM în adevăratul sens al cuvântului. Nu cred că un jucător cu experiență ar sfătui un începător (cu 4k strength) să încerce să câștige un BH. Realitatea nu e roz. Răbdare sau card (:
Aseara am obtinut BH cu un stenght mult mai mult.. si inaiunte ma intrebat un tip mai amre care era poe locul 2 daca chiar vreau BH si iam zis ca nu stiu.. si ma lasat.. multam si respect baiatului.
Abia astept sa te vad D2 cu str tau si sa rad de tine si cu curul 🙂, sa te arat cu degetul si sa iti spun "Te-am avertizat de tzshpe ori!" 🙂
NUsh ce sa zic .. dar in acea lupta mi-a crescut streghtul cu 200 de puncte...
daca un jucator cu str mare are intentia sa ia BH-ul, macar sa aiba bunul simt sa lupte din primele minute. cel putin asa stiu cei mici si nu se baga
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It's the new guys fault since he is playing this turd of a game
Regards Plato
you have a point over there 😁
One does not simply fight in D1, but when they do they have over 50k strength and a good amount of bombs. Eu zic ca pe cineva cu str mare il avantajeaza mai mult sa lupte la un CO bun decat 2 gold amarati. BH sunt doar ca sa aratam ca putem. Stii si tu prea bine. Oricum bag seama ca esti suparat ca ti a furat ala BH ul. 😁))
aaa..nu..ca nu a fost la mine 😛
dar totusi ..nu este plictisitor sa iti flexezi muchii in fata unui ce nu are 5% din str tau ?
stiu ca merita mai mult la CO ...ai CO de 150-200 la D1 din ce imi amintesc. ..1 gold pe milion aproape 😁
era pe vreo clona
Dificult question,... who "owns" a BH and when?
I think plato owns them all 😁
Medalia e ca o rasplata pentru cei care au avut cea mai multa rabdare.
In cele din urma sunt doar niste pixeli...
nu..o raspalata pentru cei care au rabdare sunt medaliile de HW si SS ..
nu ar trebui BH-ul sa fie defapt o medalie pt ca ai stat in D1 cat mai mult doar pentru a nu avea adversar.
Mda, am pățit-o și eu cu niște aliați argentinieni. 🙂
vot pt incurajare 🙂
din pacate n-am fost niciodata D1 sau D2 sa stiu cum e. oricum mi se pare cel putin idioata impartirea actuala pe divizii strict pe nivel. ar trebui adaugat si un factor timp eventual (sau strenght). sa nu poti sta in d1 mai mult de 1 an sau mai sus de ... 30k strenght. cifrele sunt pur intamplatoare.
Usain Bolt never slows down for the 2nd guy.
am pierdut bh cu 25kk...fiecare joaca cum doreste
Calculating which division each player belongs could be updated ..it could be xp based like now and an or condition based on strength.
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The game is flawed by design wise: the rich will get richer and the poor will be poorer, just like RL. Well there is no problem in that philosophy if this game would be very engaging early on, but is not. The economic module since you need to compete on job market with big guys also all markets give a big boost to those with bigger Q .
Since the game is very stale and there aren't many battles those medals like BH are limited and they should be like prizes for those who hoard or pay, but they are not, since bazookas are easily outpowered. So as a new player this game is pretty lame, I can tell you from the eyes of a new player.
7 years ago the game was great and it was very nicely conceived and the directions it was heading were pretty exciting, yet somewhere along the way they lost almost everything.
multies have killed this game, and also the fact that the admins haven't done anything to prevent it.
there will never be a normal, balanced economy with working multies
there will never be a normal political module with voting multies and party member multies
the only real module is the D4 military module, where the one who spends the most usually wins
from what i have read, the conclusion is that VampireA achieved so much this game 😁
You said it like 3 times 😁
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So manny holes in this game...is only fair for those with cards, which in some way they are totaly right with their decisions, after all they are throwing some mony and the little dude not...is moral issue here. The big guy is definitely a jerk. this is the exact reason I am not runnig for bh medal. To manny jerks...
Ce pot sa spun, chestiile astea nu se intampla doar la D1
Luna trecuta GreuceanuBV din Legiunea Umbrelor a dat peste mine in overkill la Divizia 4 intr-o lupta in care dadusem de la inceput 60 de milioane. Putea da in alte lupte, erau cateva razboaie ale Romaniei deschise. N-am zis nimic, doar i-am trimis un mesaj in care i-am explicat ca isi putea alege alta lupta, la care nu a raspuns.
La nici cateva zile, am avut un level up si am dat 90 de milioane sa iau un BH de partea Belarus, pentru ca pentru eRomania deja era cineva la BH cu vreo 50 de milioane. A venit iar GreuceanuBV si a dat peste mine.
Acesta este jucatorul http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/5356874
Deci, nu e chestie doar de D1. Bizoni sunt peste tot
PS: am cateva miliarde damage disponibil pe cont, dar e mai bine sa nu te pui cu prostii
si el cate miliarde crezi ca are pe cont?tu stim iti pastrezi contul pentru concursurile unde castigi tu personal ceva..
da..dar e o diferenta ..in D4 ajungi pt ca ai vrut sa lupti si ar trebui sa fii in stare sa te lupti cu altii de la egal la egal..nu sunt discrepante asa mari de str gen 80 k contra 5 k str
Rofl what are you saying here is full of CRAP, you are siting in div 2 with high str and preach the hardships of div 1.....
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if some one is determined enough gets a bh in any division, btw i am 1500 str the second guy is 40k str in div 1.
Lucky for you loser i am not div 2 or i would hunt your BH's 😛