[ZS] Vento Aureo and some light on the current situation
Dio Maximus
Unfortunately I didn't have time to write this article sooner in a more timely manner, but as they say it's better late then never. There is some serious internal strife in Pakistan caused by a number of factors, mostly by the bipolar nature of politics in our country, but on the other hand also by a extremely negative effect of actions by some citizens who should have been neutral and by some who are on the other hand up to no good, and would cause ruin to Pakistan to achieve personal gain and glory.
First, I'll adress the recent geo-political ideas some people had, namely Dr. Walter Bishop, current president of Vento Aureo in his presidential candidacy article. Apparently the basic idea is to get our core regions back from China and Iran. As a person who has held a number of government and alliance positions in both Serbia and Pakistan and been involved in a number of campaigns and the decision making regarding those, I felt that my obligation was to write this and to shed some light on the futility of previously mentioned idea Walter tossed around.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see our cores back. To move to Balochistan or Sindh, to be able to write that an article was written in Quetta, Pakistan, but that's not realistic and here's why. China outnumbers us by a large margin, their gold and monetary reserves are vast, probably the largest in eRepublik, and their country is a safehaven for most of the ex-EDEN tanks and players and their companies. China has been turned into a fortress over the last couple of years, a impenetrable bastion, and while Poland, Serbia, USA, Brazil Spain... all the powerful nations of eRepublik have been at some point wiped from the map, China stood tall and repelled all invaders. Pakistan doesn't have enough support and isn't a member of a large alliance like CoT or TWO to have a chance at China.
Sure we might(highly unlikely, but meh) win a RW, or two, but those gains would be temporary and would be lost in a matter of days. China would still have our cores, and we would deplete a lot more resources, resources that we don't have unlike China. The current strategic situation doesn't suit us at all. There is no support we can count on at the moment as well.
We already attempted to get our regions back when we held Balochistan. It was in all honesty a futile, but a well thought-out and pretty serious plan. At one point I was contacted by Cookies Crisps (TWO HQ), DimitrijeBP and Marko Kawther (Commanders of two of the largest military formations in Serbia at the moment) if I recall correctly who suggested a move on China. Pakistan would raise a RW in North-Western Frontier province and if the operation was sucesfull cut off the Chinese from two of their bonus resources. Spain was somewhere in SE Asia (Philippines i think) and was within striking distance as well as another TWO nation (don't remember which one) and Serbian airstrike was on hold. We also recieved a lot of support from Dioists worldwide, however the RW failed due to the overwhelming money, numbers and strenght of the Chinese D3 and D4.
After that failiure it was decided that no future attempts will be done, as it was a huge strain on our resources even with the help we recieved both from the allies and TheJakal who gave us a large amount of money to attempt this.
I'd like you guys to understand that the strategic situation was more favourable for us and it was still impossible to achieve. If we attempted something like this now, we can say goodbye to Pakistan and to the 4 bonus resources we are currently enjoying. Also note that no other nation of our size has 4 bonus resources, and that we must not get greedy.
Other thing I personally have problems with is the allowance of a person under the nickname "rainy saturday" into Vento Aureo. Rainy Saturday by all accounts is the banned Hanibal LA, former CP of Serbia, who betrayed his own country and emptied it's treasury so he could sell the money the treasury accumulated in real life. He betrayed his own country. He also led a shady PTO of the USA before PTO'ing his own country because the then acting government of Serbia decided not to support his PTO as he planned to steal the money for himself and his friends. The USA communty always thought that it was a official government project to PTO the USA, and I'm glad to be able to shed some light on these events. It wasn't. Rainy Saturday is not a Dioist, and with every day passing by, more and more I believe that neither is Dr.Walter Bishop. Dioism is more then just empty phrases and spewing bullshit.
Dioist prophets are silent. This is probably the largest problem of the dioist community. This allowed for all kinds of shady figures to work under the pretext of being dioists for their selfish goals. There is hope however as the Eternal God Emperor awoke from his slumber. He is silent, but always watching over us.
I will not be endorsing Dr. Walter Bishop for the presidency. Not only because of the PTO-like appearance his candicacy has looked in recent days, but also because of the serious flaws in it's policies.
Vento Aureo always had the best interests of Pakistan at it's heart. It's the oldest party of Pakistan after all. Taking sides in the evergoing political conflict in Pakistan has stained the name of Vento Aureo and all kinds of shady political dealings for personal gain have further destroyed the authority Vento Aureo once had.
I personally vow to change this by any means necessary. There are some things that are simply sacred and are not to be defiled.
PRIDE POWER PAKISTAN
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Walter has messed with the wrong party. He failed elsewhere, so he is trying his luck here. But history repeats.
Although I don't recall donating any funds to the NWFP campaign.
You didn't donate directly, but as Pakistan was short on funds we were basically running the department of health (the weapons/healt form) with weapons and money you were sending to me/Dio Eraclea.
Oh ok.
Hail Vento Aureo!
Hail Pakistan!
It's great to have you back my friend. 😁
i hope u r ready to get VA back next month 🙂
Me? It was never my party, it belongs to the Dioists. It's their party. It's good to see the Dioists coming back. :')
dude we will need all the power to get it back tho i believe that 25 votes are enough which is quite disappointing to see the gangbang of Walter Bishop in next PP elections 😛
I didn't steal money or betrayed my own country. I just screwed guys who did bad to eSerbia, and helped some other folks to come on top. Regarding the money, all money is returned few days later + 150k donation for eSerbia.
I came in ePK for some other reasons, not PTO, so pls, don't share wrong informations to eWorld...
What reasons Hanibal?
For same reason every Serb like ePK. That's why..
Not gonna let Dioism and Vento Aureo be sullied. Just putting it out there.
Matter of your personal perspective. Yes you screwed over your SZR thief friends, but you also screwed over the rest of the population. You returned only a tiny bit of the sum you stole. So please, it's not like that is your only sin. I'm sure there's a whole bunch of people just dying to get talkative.
That's your point of view, and I can't discuss about it, cuz simply...that's your point of view..
You have "other reasons"? Kindly explain how you have managed to become the VP of VA as soon as you step into ePak. Maybe you aren't "directly" here for a PTO but indirectly, you are 100% involved in helping that Dr. of yours.
if you say so..
Dr. Walter Bishop is the account of chickensguys, who was allied with the PTO in the eUSA.
We figured it out too late unfortunately. I seriously believe in second chances but being a fgt to everyone about it isn't the way to go.
I told everyone who I was before I applied for CS.
Oh please. I was the HoC at that time and I didn't know about your true identity except when you told me (falsely) that you were a Dioist.
Dr Wannabe Walter Bishop, You didn't tell anyone that you are chickenguys before applying for CS and you didn't tell anyone about your previous PTO adventures.
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The Book of Dio chapter 7:
“He that plants thorns must never expect to gather roses.”
(Pakistani Proverb)
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I held your opinion in high regard once, I'd like a sincere opinion on this topic from you, not a half-witted macro defiling the Dioists. I just hope that you guys see what are you doing, you will not be hurting me, Jakal or anyone you don't like by allying with Bishop and his buddies, you will be screwing up Pakistan and getting us erased. Think this through before acting.
Dio Maximus, it was joke. Don't get every time serious. This thing, doesn't link to anyone. I am removing this.
No offense taken mate. However I'm still begging you to talk to your friends in PRF.
After looking at Dio Max's comment, I think he write too much about how it offended him (Or most probably, it didn't.) He actually meant to tell you to take another look at your friends in PTI and PRF.
They may be right sometimes (Hardly imho) but trusting and suporting them just because they have same concerns as yours will only result in Pakistan getting PTOed.
Supported. Everything said here about the strategic situation and Pakistan/China history is accurate, sensible, and plainly evident. I hope that DWB/CG or HLA/RS can come to understand this and work in the best interests of Pakistan. That said, I hope that if they do not, you can get VA back on the right track. My opinions are expressed in full in Jakal's article, which I will post immediately below this in a comment.
My comment on Jakal's article:
"Now I have encountered many dioists and all of them are quite passive and not interested in becoming CP, they are only interested in fighting for Pakistan."
^ Yep.
I have my own opinions about the current events... which I try (unsuccessfully) to keep to myself.
From the beginning, the word of Dio on this has been clear... do not get involved in internal politics between RL Pakistani parties. The prominence of Dioists in Pakistan has risen and fallen over the years. Sometimes we see an Exodus or similar resurgence, other times Dioists quietly fade into the sands or drift away to other nations. Sometimes it becomes a political battle of Dioists vs *all* RL Pakistani parties. Such is life in eRepublik. But we shouldn't be involved in these internal disputes between these internal factions, especially when our influence is at a low tide.
When we have a Dioist who wants to be President, when the time is right, it will be clear. Revolutions, conquests, etc, grand actions pave the way. Not petty politics.
Anyway... I'll ultimately support whoever the VA PP is. I'll fight for Pakistan, not against Pakistan, but I might not tank for Pakistan depending on how things go (like pissing off China). I just hope people really understand the value of the current geopolitical position we occupy, even if petty politics require them to say otherwise in public.
We have a good thing here. Things are running well. Don't rock the boat.
V/r,
Max
Hail Pakistan - Hail Dio!
Excellent.
Interesting article. The sands are shifting. The Calling is approaching.
As Dioists we value the opinions of others, and know that from conflict and war comes understanding and peace. But, we must not let borders and boundaries and "mechanics" and personal power struggles cloud judgement on His Word. The eWorld has become jaded; lost Spirit, and more restricted by "mechanics" than ever. We need to reunite our Spirit.
I am Dio, YOU are Dio, WE ARE DIO.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-dio-dioists-sing-peace-power-freedom-2336040/1/20
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Thank you for taking the time to write this article.
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Thanks for having a honest disagreement, the DPP has just resorted to lying for the past weeks, this was much easier for me to read. I must though, I expressed not a willingness of war with China but the willingness to get our regions back. As I have said, numerous times, I will not threaten Pakistan's strategic position
However this "I believe that neither is Dr.Walter Bishop(A dioist)" Even my worst enemies would have no other choice but to concede that this false. Once I am elected, it will be my pleasure to prove you wrong in this area.
"Once I am elected, it will be my pleasure to prove you wrong in this area.''
Even your own rhetoric proves my point.
"I will not threaten Pakistan's strategic position"
The facts presented say the opposite. Are you going to errect a magic wall or something?
I'll take my chances with people who have proven their good intentions and manners on numerous occasions.
What I said in terms of china on the IRC over and over again, is that if I can get the perfect situation only then will we consider a war with china. But we should not be afraid of action. I am not going to blindly lose regions in a fit of rage or idiocy.
In terms of the Dioist comment, I knew Dio Brando, we use to talk on the Irc quite a bit. Even my worst enemy would call me a dioist, I deleted all my articles long ago, but I am sure on eUSA forum you can find some real dioist gems done by me. I take great honor in being a dioist, and I disagree that a real dioist is silent. A true believer would be doing there best to convert everyone, and spread the words of dio.
lol Chickenguys
I know Dio Brando in RL. Stop speaking shyte.
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Aisi language na istamal karo, Ahsan Shahbaz aur PTI walon ki phat'ti hai aur woh report kar dete hain 😛
Hahahaa chalo is se bara aizaz aur kia ho sakta hai 😃
Voted.. From what I've learned of Dioism, dio's mostly stay away from politics and fight for ePakistan silently whenever it needs them.. I've been in this game for about an year now and I haven't seen a lot of political activity from VA during my time here except in this last few weeks since Dr. Waltor Bishop became PP of VA.. according to my understanding, VA remains neutral in politics and works for the betterment of ePakistan and so I would love to see VA go back to the old and true Dios who can maintain its original policies.. you have my full support bro as long as you would continue to work for the betterment of this ecountry 🙂
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i am just surprise on the ways how one person can create havoc by just doing one silly article,
and all of sudden, everybody started to fight among each others ( prf, dpp, va etc... )
Those parties may be on the different sides, but i am sure no one wants to destroy pakistani interest in game.
and about the so called nomination of CP, he is just one single stupid idiot who has no idea what the hell he is doing, and forget that its MULTIPLAYER name, single person cant do shit