Facts
Today, I want to tell you a story. The story of
Julien Thierry, alias
Ruurk, living in the
UK, coming from
France, the
boss of
Eclypsia, a french gaming webtv, that counts more than 100k subscribers on its youtube channel.
Bloody big deal.
He has got an idea in min
😛
the
gamification. He wants to add a gaming platform to his streaming platform, developing a social game, setted in Middle Ages, to play with, together with his community. But he needs infos, so he starts testing browser games,far and wide, high and low on Internet. He joins
eRepublik in 2009, and now our paths meet: on 28 november, he shares a post, on his
Facebook and
Twitter profiles, with a link: the referring link, to start playing
eRepublik.
Shortly, three parties and a
MU got create
😛
time is ripe for the
invasion.
The same day, 266 people join
eRepublik, in
France, and we are just at the beginning:
France reaches 3500 citizens, and
Ruurk’s party reaches 600 members: we can bear witness of the most violent and brutal
babyboom on
eRepublik,
folks.
So, now we have some three parties linked to
Ecylpsia's
team:
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Eclypsia (in
France, with 700 members), which appointed
Ruurk as candidate;
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EclypsiaBE (in
Belgium, with 100 members), which appointed
e Vladmir as candidate[/url];
•
EclypsiaIT (from
Italy, with four members), which appointed first
ECAeterna, then
roccowilfredi sa candidate, both banned.
New comers of the last week, in Italy, France and Belgium.
Following, two interviews, to
Ruurk, and to
benjiparis, a french player, to hear both side of the story.
Enjoy the read.
Inverviews
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Namasté Ruurk Rage. First of all, introduce yourself.
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Why have you decided to join eRepublik?
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We decided to join erepublik because with my team of streamers we are testing a lot of games to "stream it" and to play with our community, we choose eRepublik for the next 3 months.
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Someone says that you want to test eRepublik possibilities to develop a game. Is that true?
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We are developing Gamification in Eclypsia, it's not incompatible. We are doing a RPG game with one char, not an economic game with politic. But yes it's true i tested all the free to play like Erep to have ideas before, but no it's not true we are playing Erep only for this, we dont ask 2K people to come to play with you, without earning any money for "testing".
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How did you manage to get your party reach 600 members in two days?
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We are famous streamers (like twitch.tv) but in a french channel I launched, EclypsiaTV. For example right now, we have more than 8000 current viewers.
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Don’t you find that your action seems as an invasion, and don’t you find it a bit unfair?
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I dont understand how, this game is a social game, the more we are, the more the game is fun, political, and economical.
And we are all DIV I, so we cant really do something huge at this moment.
The actual president of France is already in my party, and he will be my vice president, he knew me before I came in erepublik, and he trust me to lead the country.
I took 2 ministors of the actual government.
I started Erep in 2009, and I played it a few days/weeks every year and I know this game. And all our communitys had a tutorial, and the wiki.
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How is your project going?
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Our different account starting to be banned, because we are playing from office, so right now two of us are banned. Pretty sure i'm gonna be banned in a few, because eRep can’t understand we are just in the same office, streaming the same game, and playing it from home aswell, in our different accounts. We will propably all leave the game, our community is really active, tomorow we gonna do a stream and ask all the players to stop.
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Why?
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We came to have fun, with your community, but due to this unfair ban, two of us have their accounts "frozen", with more than 200 refferer, and can't play anymore! We are working in the same company, and playing all together, and we're all playing except of them, who are only watching us playing. It's not fair for us!
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Namasté Benjiparis. First of all, introduce yourself to the readers.
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Hi o/ , So i'm a french Citizen since fev 2012 , I've been quite active in French Politic ( congres , and also governement , especcally MoD ) this last 2 years.
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What do you think about the massive BabyBoom that the France got in the last couple days?
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On one hand , it can be seen like a awesome opportunity. France has now more than 3500 citizen, but on the other side , the intention of these people aren't very clear: they are on the game for only 48 H and they allready planned to become CP. And this not only in France…Also in two other countries, Belgium and Italy.
They do'nt take time to become integrated into the community, they don't take time to know history of the country,time to know how exactlly the game works: it's quite like an "Invasion".
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If you could send a message to Ruurk, what would you say to him?
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To accept the help of current governement / community. Improve communication between their community and the other one: there is a forum in eFrance , some IRC chan , a Ministery of Education, who helps the new player. We want to "cooperate" with him.
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Has French Government do something to reduce the risks of this "invasion", and to integrate the newcomers?
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Ruurk will be elected next mounth, that's for sure. So I just hope he won't mess up everything (diplomatie, ally, war declaration, ecc…). And yes , like I told before, eFrance has a lot a Structure for the Baby player: we have some special MUs for the new player, whe have an IRC channel, tutorials, a forum but currently all these young player are only following their "leader", Ruurk; they use their own chan, for example.
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Thank you.
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🙂
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A short critical analyze upon these facts
Massimo Recalcati is an italian lacanian psychologist, and he described two models of society.
The first one, is the model of our grandfather and our ancestors’: a closed society, in which newcomers had to accept and adapt to the rules of their father. We can find an example of this type of society in the
Roman Empire, in which peope believed in a system of values called “
mos maiorum”, that stands for “
ancestors’ traditions”; among them, there was the “
pietas”, an untranslatable word, that establish the duty for sons to pay respect and love their parents. Tons of latin writers (like Sallustio, or Catone) criticized their ages, recommending people to return to the ancient values and tradition; in conclusion, they believed that children had to respect and obey to the past.
But, if young people are live-wire, and wants to modify society, this model obviously create a struggle: the past verus the new. Recalcati talks about Edipus, who killed his father, but I think it would be more fit to talk about
Tommaso Marinetti, a totally insane and cool guy, who developed an anvant-garde and sick style of writing (called “
Futurism”) and write a manifesto, in which he talked about burning academies and libraries, who put men in a cage, made of respect to the past, who overwhelms him and fighting the fogyism. Another example of the struggle against the past can be found in
Nietzsche, who described himself as a
hammer, made to strike ancient believings to bring to the
twilight of the idols, to prepare a blank slate of values, to let the
ubermensch create its own.
In the second type of society there is the statement of new values, but, this time, there isn’t a struggle: the parents adapt their life to sons, the society adapts itself to the newcomers. This is what happen in most of our families, and in our art academies, in which newcomers are totally free to express themselves, and they don’t have to follow any rules. This may sound a godsend, but I don’t think so; I may sound a romantic, but I think that masterpieces and revolutionary models of society got built after a conflict with establishment and rules:
Lars von Trier showed it to us with his film “
De fem benspænd”, a documentary that portays the director Jørgen Leth realizing the same short film five times, each time having to respect some different rules that make hard his task.
So, if burning a library could be an exaggerate act, maybe we should find a middle way. We have the same problem here, on
eRepublik, with a
horde of new players who ignore the rules of their new communities and who already claims for power. Beyong “good” or “bad”, categories without any sense here, I think it would be unfair to force the newcomers to play with our rules, and it may be counter-productive. Maybe we aren’t even able to do it. But I think it would be unfair at the same way to destroy what we have build in this year, on
eRepublik.
In my opinion, the solution to the problem can be found in the
Eneide, an epic poem written by
Virgilio, in the same world told by
Homer in the
Iliad.
If
Newton, quoting Bernando da Chiaravalle, stated that men are like
dwarfs on the shoulders of giants,
Enea takes his father
Anchise on his shoulders, and save from the burning and falling Troy; at the same way, I think that newcomers have a though task: to embrace and lift the establishment, rescuing it from the oblivion: modifying it, but don’t forgetting it, integrating in society and improving it at the same time.
In this there is a huge lack of communition, mostly of the
Eclypsia team, which, in my opinion, should have talked with all the three countries governments, and think out a way to make the newcomers being taught and integrated into those countries.
Comments
The future Italian CP was banned. http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8595852
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Esperimento divertente, peccato per i ban.
Servirebbe qualche comunità di questo tipo in Italia. Mai rifiutare nuovi giocatori.
Analizzate la cosa in maniera più profonda.
Un nuovo giocatore che entra nella comunità è obbligato a seguire le vostre regole e secondo vooi è giusto perché avete la maggioranza e dite al nuovo giocatore che se vuole cambiare qualcosa deve conquistare la maggioranza.
Questo dovrebbe valere anche a situazione invertita. La nuova maggioranza può imporre il proprio gioco e può ignorarvi come alcuni giocatori fanno in Italia verso i nuovi. Non tutti, però è così.
Senza dubbio. Peccato però che questi non siano veri giocatori italiani, ma la maggior parte di essi sono orde di fake o persone che mirano soltanto a rovinare il gioco ad altri. Fare dei TO non mi sembra una bella cosa, a prescindere da chi lo faccia.
Visto il potenziale di quella comunità non credo siano account multipli.
Non hanno interessi in questo gioco e questo scherzetto gli avrà fatto guadagnare qualche visita in più sul loro sito. Sono comunque francesi e avrebbero potuto giocare nel rispetto delle regole del gioco.
Beh, ad occhio e croce già ne sono stati bannati più di una trentina.
Il sospetto ci sta tutto.
Che poi si voglia fare un BB ci sta, potremmo farlo anche noi sfruttando uno Youtuber d'eccellenza, ma ci troveremmo completamente sommersi da nabbi tredicenni che non hanno la minima idea di come si possa iniziare a giocare. Con ripercussioni soltanto negative.
Se a questo ci aggiungiamo la loro mira espansionistica in Belgio e proprio in Italia, beh...Penso che si possano trarre delle ovvie conclusioni circa la loro voglia di giocare.
Nascondete l'oro e più di tanto male non potranno fare. Credo sia più difficile convincere qualcuno a fare pubblicità in questo modo che la gestione successiva...
Già il fatto stesso di nascondere l'oro credo sia una dimostrazione di quanto possano cadere in basso, rubando ciò che tutta la community italian ha raccolto in anni di duro lavoro; pensa soltanto al lavoro immane fatto con ESF, ESS e quant'altro. Pensa alle ore perse da tante persone e poi pensa se dovessero rubare tutto..Che tristezza.
Eclypsia è tra le più grandi comunità in europa per quanto riguarda il gaming online. Figurati se fanno multiaccount di proposito... sarà qualche nabbo che vedendo la loro idea ha fatto un tentativo di fare il furbo.
E' divertente, e sarà ancora più divertente fermarli.
A livello di comunità, per loro, sicuramente.
L'eItaly un po' se lo merita. Un occasione in cui tutti i giocatori che sono all'estero potevano essere fondamentali.
Comunque c'è il congresso e si possono mandare via se ci provano e vincono.
Bella questa... effettivamente noi parliamo di spirito nazionalistico e che è brutto che vengano in italia e cose del genere. Ma pensa a quello che ha detto... noi italiani non siamo per niente nazionalisti, ce ne sbattiamo letteralmente fino a che non succede qualcosa...
Siamo tanto bravi ad uscire dalle situazioni brutte e negative quanto menefreghisti a giocare in squadra con un intera nazione mentre tutto va bene...
E' vero un pò ce lo meritiamo e spero stiano in italia a lungo perchè sono certo che ci ricompatteremo e vinceremo l'invasione ma appena andranno via tutto tornerà peggio di prima... solo ostruzionisti, burocrati e gente che non sa unire un popolo...
Ma dopotutto gli italiani siamo così anche in real, che cosa ci aspettiamo?
= D zaa
next step is poland zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
interessante, soprattutto per le 2 visioni del babyboom.
vedremo che comporterà per l'italia
a noi un babyboom servirebbe, ma di italiani xD
A me andrebbe bene anche di Francesi volenterosi.
I francesi? u,u si vede che non ci vivi vicino...
"...in the same office"
Nice excuse, very very funny lol
Check this youtu.be/ToT3H9YuDE8
I know what and who they are, but it's stupid to use "the same office" as excuse.
Everybody here knows that the same IP address isn't enough to get banned. This is the reason why two brothers can play eRepublik even if they live together, in the same house.
I think that there must be something dangerous behind this action, but I hope the best for French community.
One of them rerolled, so i think after investigation, admins banned all the ppl.
Working in a comp owned by someone on the same ip is a reason to ban.
wat
bah
votato
O.o
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There was another player named Adam Sutler, many years ago. Famous eCanadian Legend 😁
o.O
o/
iveco
/me fissa Yamisuke
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to stay in less then 1 click for years doesn't mean to know to play the game...
i'm really sorry for france community, they are not toys with which to play 2 months (because you can do it with all that newbies who will do all you say) and than just go away and don't care what will happen with the community after you actions
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there welcome as a community but dangerous politically in ebelgium for supporting ptoers its sad...
The current CP candidate of eBe was smart enough to get their support first, they could have choosen to put forward their own CP from the very beginning. I think the first option has bought us some time and hopefully when they do take power they will have developed enough interaction with the eRep population and not just use it as a testing playground 🙂
Bought us time? it bought your group of ptoers time , to have another month off failing goverment...
D9 your my political enenmy, stop discussing pointlessly whit me cause we think totally different, if you want to comment do it seperatly....
Ps: the current cp candidate just birbed him, has nothing to do whit beeing smart, everything whit political games for personal gain......
my group? I have nothing in eBe anymore
Don't bother, Kanselier and his buddies accuse anyone that opposes them of being a PTOer. Also all their allies hate them and control Belgium and their enemies are their true saviours.
They're essentially what New Era/Vendetta were to the UK. They even have an old Vendetta guy in Congress. Funny enough, he used to claim the UK was controlled by Belgians.
I know, that same guy is proposing to NE Poland now 🙂
Interesting, voted.
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Just one thing. 100k are indeed a lot of people for eRepublik, I think that's about the total amount of active players around here.
But it's just a medium channel according to Youtube's standards.
I think Italy is safe for the time being, but for how long?
Really too bad when people throw terms like PTO around about any web-based babyboom.
Well. They are france, not italian. Why did they open a copy of their party also in Italy? XD
They are in the same company at Eclypsia, but they don't have the same nationality, Ruurk Rage is french, TaipOuz is Belge and Gius is italian
Mind your own country!
If you want to integrate and learn more about this game, why did your friends decide to run for Country Presidency out of the blue?
useless french ppl !!!
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La rossa è italiana?!? :3
Why? The take over is the act of a force gaining the leadership and the power upon an heterogeneous group. Every babyboom that allows a leader to get elected and get the power of rule a country, is a sort of PTO.