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This is your personal loss, and should not be subsidised by the nation, we do not need a Q1 hospital as they are a waste of space, and we should not be paying you 2.5k for it. Your loss, your problem.

Jaysus and we only just got rid of Victor and we get this muppet!

The idea was to upgrade to Q4 however 20mins before I was to do so I was informed of a wonderful change to the way upgrades do things. Now they remove productivity, before they didnt.

So I get lumbered with a Q1 hospital, and a Q4 Medical company, so I guess its my problem... however if the country wants a Q4 hospital then it needs to invest.

Tho had you of spent the time to work out the costs, you will see that a Q4 hospital costs around 4000IEP...

So I guess 1500IEP is my problem also...

Reading forums helps big time on understanding of whats going on in our country, and the changes that are effecting us!

You are effectively covering your personal loss with the countries money.

Actually the president was good planning the upgrade to take advantage of the rules.
Not his fault the changed suddently the system.
I think that's not fair. Upgrading is already very expensive. I think was fair to keep the construction counter when upgrading. After all is a bonus only on first produced unit.
I don't think it's a personal loos of 5n4keyes. What i think is that it's not fair to change rules without notice.
I'm sure if the admins plan such changes they should give at least a 48 hours warning to allow people to choose.
That's because if 5n4keyes knew abt the new rule system he had upgraded the company a lot of time before...

The fact of the matter is it's Pure Groups loss, pure Groups owners must bear that loss. If Pure Group were owned by the Country then this would be fine. We cannot have some Companies where the Gov bears their losses and they take the profits. This is anti-competitive.

Also clearly the President authorising the movement of Funds from himself to his SO is a conflict of interest, if not outright fraud.

All companies have been afflicted by this change, it applies to everyone.

yes as inquitus stated people should vote no why should the irish people give 5nakeyes 2500iep for a Q1 hospital it should be voted no its not our problem if pure medical lose money or the hospital. after all it could be a scam by 5nakeyes

@Inquitus : Well inquitus, maybe u voted no to the initial proposal of giving 170 GOLD to pure medical. And maybe u voted no today as well.
But in the end the first proposal was passed by the majority of the congress.
I admit that there is a bit of conflig of interest, but in the end is for the best of ireland, this is why the proposal passed.
Once the congress approve a proposal, even the congressmen who voted "NO" should accept it. I do and u should do it as well 🙂

BTW, the 2500 IEP cost is an advance for the wages of the next hospital as well.

Just want to point out something here, your not voting if i should get the money, ive got the money, your voting if you should accept the hospital... If you vote NO it goes into the void of nothingness.

I repeat, ive already received the 2500IEP, so theres no point in voting NO.

There is a point in registering the fact that you have acted inappriopriately in giving yourself the 2.5k IEP

And if we vote No it remains in your stock, it does not go into the void of nothingness.

No i have not given myself IEP

I have given Pure Medical 2500IEP as per agreement on the forums,

I have 2500IEP to pay my workers for Q4 Hospitals, even tho it costs just over 4000IEP to produce.

Stop making this out to be that im profiteering, ive invested enough of my own IEP and GOLD into helping this country, 2500IEP isnt going to make even a slight dent in what ive given to this country! The money is in Pure Medical, the money remains in Pure Medical, the money doesnt get removed from Pure Medical, the money is used by Pure Medical to produce Q4 Hospitals for eIreland.

@inquitus, u should stop that... congress already decided about it.
Only way you can have the vote not passing is hoping in absent people

Wow. I am not congress, however I spend a lot of time reading whats going on. The money was already giving to Pure Medical, Voted Yes by a majority of the congress. You are now being asked to vote yes to accept the placement of hospitals. If you vote no, then the money that was giving to Pure Group, well would sorta be a waste. As you have disallowed them to place a hospital that money is for. Also, our president spends a lot of his personal IEP and Gold in helping this Country. inquitus you should really read and follow everything in depth about our enation. Specially b4 you post something as you have here, and especially if your gonna be a congress member.. You need knowledge to succeed, not stupidity.

Inqui, this is what's going on:

Originally we had planned to upgrade to Q4 right before the Q1 was built, and then provide a 2500 IEP subsidy to build the next one, but the admins removed that yesterday. The admins have also added a gold fee to withdraw currency from the treasury, 0.005 gold per IEP.

So the company is still going to be upgraded to Q4, but we need to get rid of the Q1 hospital first. Buying it with 2500 IEP is a way to remove the money from the treasury without paying the gold fee, so it kills two birds in one stone.

i agree with inquitus. Why does the presidents company get the only shot at the contract?

why didnt you have different corporations bid and then we could choose the cheapest. Wouldnt that have been the fairest way to do it other then to allow your company an exclusive contract with the government you run??

Do you know of any other Irish hospital companies?

I said corporations mic. They could all invest as did pure group. But they didnt have the chance or an offer did they?

Well because there were no other hospital companies that were almost done a Q1. If the admins hadn't of changed the rules without warning, this vote would have been for a Q4 hospital right now.

And as far as I know he isn't making profit on the hospitals, the 2500 IEP just helps towards wages. Corporations would have wanted to turn a profit and end up costin gus more.

Either its a nationalised company owned by Ireland and as such we will eat this loss........or it's a private company which is having it's losses underwritten by the country whilst it's profits are its own........this doesn't make good sense.

Any private company is at the mercy of market forces, admin is a market force.

Also it would be more worthwhile with only 6 regions purchasing hospitals abroad.

see inquitus is right which is it a nationalized or private company. and if private why are they receiving government handouts over any other company.

OK appears to be some issue with where the money is going, i will entrust Collins with the password to Pure Group, since he is minister of finance he can oversee Pure Medical.

Also note there is an agreement between Pure Medical and eIreland, of which will be made offical, which clears up everything your claiming, please go and vote or offer changes for ammendment on our forums as you havent so far.

You made the proposal, and never bothered to link the discussion relating to that proposal, surely in the interests of openess and transparency you could have linked the thread on the forums to this proposal so it was easy for any Congressman, especially those newly elected, to be able to understand your reasons and your point........but ofc you didn't, you just tell congressmen to read the thread, but don't connect the vote to the thread.

Also to quote you "Also note there is an agreement between Pure Medical and eIreland, of which will be made offical" so I take ti there is an agreement which is not public......maybe we need a Corrupt Practices Act!

The agreement is on our forums.

Holy crap. Its on the forums. If the congressman is signed up on the forums they can read it. Stop complaining and it is a majority vote, so whatever the majority says, goes.

@Inquitus, ACorp is competitor of Pure Group, yet has nothing to say abt what happened. We also provided a few mid skilled workers from Arnor Housing to build the hospital. I know there were other ways to do that. The congress decided that way, live with it as ev1 does...