The Party President Elections - some observations and questions
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Ilene Dover
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Well, the Political Party Presidential Elections finished up a few days back. There have been allegations of dirty tricks, and rebuttals. Now that the fuss has died down some, I’m hoping to steer a different course. Here, I will present some factual observations. These will be backed by screenshots where possible (no, there will be no juicy PMs in my newspaper…). From these observations, a few questions will naturally follow. They are being posted publicly, here, so that we can all see the answer without violating the private part of Private Message and in a hope of keeping things fairly civil.
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Party Membership
The screen grab below was taken the day of the party president election.
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As you can see, the VIP have dropped from approximately 50 members, during the last senate election, to 38 members. That suggests 12 have gone “missing”, having either left politics altogether or joined other parties. There are 41 members of VIP while I am writing this article, which shows a reversal of membership decline.
I will ask the question of Cibaris, president of the Varnishist International Party. Where did your members go? How many in total, and why did they leave? I have seen or heard no signs of a party dispute that could result in a quarter or more of your members leaving.
Perhaps more importantly, 15 citizens were elected to represent VIP in the congress election. These citizens:
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Of those 15, only 12 remain as of today. Are the three deserting senators prepared to tell the citizens who voted for VIP why they are betraying their votes?
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KHMC Presidency
This leads me to my next observation, concerning my own party, the KHMC. We had a three-way competition for party presidency. The final results are:
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Please note the total vote count of 20, from a membership on election day of 27 (it has climbed to 30 since). A turnout over 65% for party president elections is very unusual, though it could be a symptom of the also unusual three-way vote. More typically, in my experience, party president elections have about 50% membership turnout.
I had to go back to late 2014 to find the last three-way race for party president. You can see the results:
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That was still only a shade over 50% member turnout.
Perhaps it was the campaigning by each candidate? I doubt it, as I was the only KHMC candidate to write an article or to post any shouts. To the best of my knowledge, the other candidates didn't go around spamming PMs to members for votes either. This is only conjecture as I don't think either would have messaged me. I am happy to be proven wrong on that count.
So, a natural question then. Where did all these votes come from? And why this particular election? They seem to have mostly accrued to El Sable de Platino. Aussie Vegeta only scored the 1 vote and my vote is consistent with last month at 13-14 votes.
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KHMC’s Ninth Senator
The above two observations fit neatly into my third. Our 29th member and 9th congress member has joined up, with no effort on my part! \o/
Please, all KHMC members, welcome Prignoto, our second party member in Black Spectra colours and our second such Congress member in as many months.
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While I am happy to have the services of an additional party member and voting member of Congress under the KHMC banner, I am (and remain) confused as to the why. Prignoto has not responded to my PMs, nor has he (she?) contacted me about their defection. I certainly have never made contact other than on official Congress business (sorry, but you’re going to have to trust me on that as there’s no objective way to verify).
El Sable de Platino ran (successfully) for Congress last month with KHMC. We spoke briefly about various things, however language was a significant barrier. He did not run for the current term, and I thought he was inactive due to a lack of communication (shout box use, PMs, battle hero medals, article comments and votes, all those things that let you know a citizen is still alive).
It would be crude of me to draw a conclusion with El Sable de Platino’s votes for Party President and the presence of a member of an allied Military Unit (El Sable de Platino being Commander of ANZAC BG, an affiliate of Black Spectra) in my party’s ranks. But, it is a natural question to follow my observation. Was there a deliberate strategy put in place between ANZAC BG and Black Spectra to install El Sable de Platino as President of the KHMC?
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I understand people come with allegiances and loyalties that are not for the scrutiny of others. A citizen’s goals are not always understandable to others at first glance. A little bit of communication will go a long way to smoothing over misunderstandings and misconceptions.
So if you are frustrated with your party’s communications, or lack of transparent policy or strategy - come join us! We’re an open book!
Comments
Very rational article. Very good questions. Like your style, ID...
Cibaris, can only hope a response from you is forthcoming.
Articulo muy racional. Muy buenas preguntas. Me gusta tu estilo, ID...
Cibaris, solo puedo esperar una respuesta de usted...
Thanks JT. Any chance of a translation? I've spoken with Cibaris previously. While he reads and writes English well, Spanish is clearly his preferred language for complex subjects.
Ok, I'm on it...
I hate that in eAustralia that we have to repeat ourselves in Español... it reminds me of the old days when half our media was in Indonesian... if your going to come here at least bother to learn the language!!!
AV, I understand your point, but we evolve or go extinct...
Muchos gracias señor! 🙂
Nice article with legit questions raised IMO in a manner that allows answers with out insinuating anything untoward.
However the graphics are slightly small to see the numbers 🙁
But the lower membership before election and a bigger one after does raise questions. It would of been good if we had some form of IEC (International Election Commission something from RL), that could of monitored the parties in the lead up and after the election to see if the numbers appear to bounce from one party to another, eg. if it was observed that ADP had 40 members, KHMC 20, APP 38 before elections, during ADP: 20, KHMC 30 and APP 48, then they go back to the way it was. While it would not give a definite answer, it would help ascertain and idea of movement between parties.
However given the above statement, I plan on monitoring the party numbers from now and until after congress elections.
Sorry about the graphics... It is a necessary consequence of taking screen grabs on my phone (laptop doesn't display correctly), editing on the laptop and having to make another screen grab. It's like a photocopy of a photocopy. 😕
The only screen grab that you can't get trawling historic numbers is party rankings from about 23:50 on Election Day. They are 38-38-29-25-25-13 in order. You should be able to see which party from the (tiny) logos
Ctrl and scroll mouse forward = zoom to 250%
There it is, I can see the shots now 🙂
He said/she said
yes/no
creating an unnecessarily fear/work together and not against each other
End of it all, if you jump from your party to run as PP in another with strong ties to your original party it is a straight out take over
And what you say about how boring you were before we got here?.... Hehe 😉
¿Y qué nos decís de lo aburridos que estábais antes de que llegásemos aquí?, jeje 😉
I joined in February this year, the day Bulgaria launched an air strike on us. It's been a wild ride since. Wiped by Peru, resistance wars, two impeachments in a term, a foreign coup, wiped again, diplomacy to make it work, revolution, elections, another coup, some batshit crazy air strikes.
Nope, can't say my 4 months in this game have been boring. Sorry viyoman.
The worst part about it all is that I haven't met anyone from Black Spectra / VIP that I don't like. 😕
Nice division lines. I like them! Do you have them in blue?
You are pretty good PP, Ilene. Why are you asking those questions? - you won with huge precedence.
I would like to read JR article if he has anything to say.
Merovingiano made these line breaks, and viyoman made my banner. Mero is quite the graphic artist and takes requests for CC or gold. 🙂
I can use words, not picture programs. 😕
Thanks for the compliments Mr Seemore. I ask these questions because of integrity. It has been an unwritten rule of politics since the beginning of time that parties do not interfere in each other's presidential elections. These days, with the overlap of MU and PP function, things are blurry (military side has always been "win at all costs"). I want to know what the unwritten rules are now - so we are all playing by the same set.
I rose a question about unwritten rules once ago. It was in PM and the players involved in were me, Xen, Mac, Rusty and Infowar. The result was: You can do anything according to the game mechanics if you are affected by other party.
The only unwritten rule I see now is if it furthers yourself then there are no rules
Good to know...
I'd still like there to be a public conversation, for everyone's benefit.
It is pleasing to see Black Spectra / ANZAC BG members spreading into the older community. I would like to see more communication in the media though! Comments and articles...