Truth is Surprising…
Asmitatheone
Disclaimer: Everything on my truth series is my personal opinion and not that of my eGoverment.
Today while writing this article I seem to keep remembering the words of the great bard…
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar.
I have not come to rejoice the loss of BiH not even to taunt our win in their face. In fact, since the epic win yesterday by India and its allies I have been most confused. When I spoke to some of our fellow countrymen, I found the same feelings.
We are not happy to have wiped B&H. We are not happy to have driven them off our lands. We are not rejoicing something that is not so Indian. We love peace. We love to live together. Hell! Our arch enemies Pakistan even fought for us in this battle.
Then people who are not Indians and don’t share the same sentiments, would ask us, why the rejoicing? Why the euphoria? Why the song and dance?
For the lack of a better word to express the emotions I would call it a “surprise”. We are surprised and amazed and stupefied.
• We are surprised that we can win a RW and a MPP battle together.
• We are surprised that we could do it with only 5 or 6 allies.
• We are surprised that this was done without much planning.
• We are surprised that a person we forever termed as a troll became the CP and delivered it.
• We are surprised that in spite of the various vile threats and taunts we managed to do it.
• We are surprised that the ‘B’ of ABC is gone.
• We are surprised that we could inflict action that could wipe someone.
• We are surprised that we did things that weren’t on the moral high road that we always claimed we followed.
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So; I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
But how did we do it? Why did we do it?
In the heady mix of success and excitement, not many of us got a chance to think about it. We did it because we tried. We tried when we reached the brink of our patience. We reached the brink of our patience because we were push too hard for too long….
BiH is a poor victim of our anger. Trust me guys, we are not mad at you. If we give you reasons for fighting against you, they are possibly lame. I/WE feel for you, because we know how it feels to have regions and being wiped. We are sorry for the way things happened. Unfortunately, it happened. Now we have 3 regions and you don’t. Over the period of forced guesthood in India by ABC, BiH was the most decent and friendly. There wasn’t really a reason to complain. The only reason I could think of was their refusal to allow us one region when we didn’t have the congress after the TW. Was it really their fault? No, Not at all. It was someone else’s. Again, misdirected anger.
So if we look at it and search our souls, it is our growing anger against the continuous treachery and arrogance of Croatia and then of Albania. When Croatia came in, they were friends. We welcomed them. They came to Asia because they were without a congress for so long. They came to Malaysia on an AS. They annexed Thailand. During those days, we were trying to get to Malaysia to help them and our Indonesian brothers against their enemies. Croatia was facing regular resistance from Malaysia and Thailand. We were also in bad shape, trying to save our lands from the Thais. It was mutual. Croatia needed a safe haven; India was friends and agreed to provide it. They in turn would drive away the Thais. The regions agreed upon were the once India doesn’t need and a nice rent. Sounds like a deal happening amongst friends. One of the major points of this deal was to provide us protection from other invader. This was all done in a very friendly manner. And with each step assured that if India doesn’t want them, they will move out. In fact, the MoFA also told us, if we denied them a safe stay, they will look for some South American country to AS.
After a couple of months, things started going wrong. This was a period when Croatia was facing a lot of trouble internally (so I heard). They made a deal with Thailand without telling us about it. Mind you, this was a deal about our regions. Then it was about returning Karnataka as promised and all we would get is about this rogue MU who just wouldn’t listen to the Govt. What would you expect from a friend/ally?
We talked, and we kept on talking. We asked for help from EDEN (we were pro-EDEN). We were ignored. Croatia was a big power, big damage. No one heard our case. Some tried to help, but they were ineffective. Avoiding the various insults racist/religious or otherwise, Indians burst out, they were literally disgusted the way an old friend was treating us and we quit EDEN.
That was the best excuse they, the high and mighty Croatian wanted. They thought “WE”, believe me guys that’s what they said, betrayed EDEN. We betrayed EDEN, when even after deciding and declaring our differing paths from EDEN, and our neutrality, we stood by our commitment and fought the best we could against our brothers in Indonesia. We did that, because we were committed to support Croatia then. If we hadn’t done that, maybe ABC wouldn’t have happened.
So we were wiped, because, we were a threat, we betrayed EDEN and Croatia. WOW!! Subsequent Croatia Governments have said the earlier Govt was bad and they intend to right the wrong. I remember the time when Obersoldat was the CP of Croatia and the CPs before and after him, committing to 2 things repeatedly:
1. We do not need all your regions, and at least 6 regions will be returned.
2. We are planning to go back to the Balkans and leave India forever.
This has been months ago. Every subsequent CP confirmed the same and never ever lived up the promise. With time, things changed further, but India has always tried to talk to them. Work things out. In the mean time, India moved on to be Pro-CoT. We tried our best to get a membership. Failed!! Croatia was also working; they arranged to get Albania over. Albania worked out a deal with us. We were terribly divided. Most of us didn’t want it. But did we have a choice? The choice presented was, allow us to come over, or we are coming over!!! Our CP made that deal.
Friends would ask us, why do we keep on trying to talk and make deals with Croats and their cronies? We I would say, a fair assessment would be, we didn’t have much choice and that’s the emotionality/sentimentality of a normal Indian. We could not go back EDEN to ask for support to get rid of Croatia. We were not members of CoT yet and CoT was busy, and Croatia was going pro-CoT. Serbia was out of bounds for every Indian. So the best way was to manage to get a couple of regions through diplomacy. Every time we were promised, every time, the “phantom rogue MU” didn’t allow it.
In the mean time we had Pakistan AS us. We fought and got rid of them. This time Albania, joined the Croatia bandwagon. They felt threatened by BG/MKD ASing us and wiping them. Incidentally, they fight on the same side these days! Albania takes over the regions available. Well Croatia is still protecting us, mind you!
Then comes in BiH, again a deal. They needed congress, they didn’t threaten us. Croatia invited them over. We agreed, so that they could have a congress. Again, on a deal where in Croatia will seriously give us back some of the regions. As usual, our side of bargain lived up to, Croatia lives up to history and reneges.
Then the TW and we don’t have congress again.
BiH, put yourself in our shoes. Would you have not done something like what we did? We lashed out at the country that was quiet and peaceful. We are possibly not proud of what we did! But we were desperate. Trust me BiH, our respect for you is not hurt at all. It’s all there, maybe even more. We bit you but our anger is for Croats. The Croats taught us that for months. We are possibly brainwashed by now.
The logic was, Serbia is stronger and is beating us up, so we will have to beat you up. However, if India doesn’t agree to be beaten up, India is bad. India quit EDEN, they betrayed us. Croatia Quit EDEN, that was the right thing to do. India is Pro-CoT, that’s really bad. Croatia is pro-CoT, that’s the right thing to do.
We just turned out to be good students of Croatia.
So; The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
Most Indians are still not coming to terms with our new found friendship with Serbia. A lot of people feel, we are being used by Serbia. Maybe we are. Hasn’t Croatia been using us too? Hasn’t Albania been using us too? Oh wait, Croatia is an honorable country and so is Albania….So are they all!
If Serbia is using us, we are using them too, aren’t we? Trust me! It’s still difficult to accept Serbia as a friend. Very very difficult. But hey! After possibly months we had a “friend” who helped us. Whatever be their motive, their motive served our purpose. They stood by us along with the other so called demons and their friends gave us the impossible. Something no one else did. How is that evil? Evil maybe perspective, and from our perspective it’s not Evil! But then Croatia calls them evil and Croatia is an honorable country and so is Albania….So are they all!
We had 5 allies, all of them the so-called demons and BiH had all the Gods, 12 of them. They lost!!! Does it not make our friends better?
Arrlo, my friend, you are possibly the most honourable CP Croatia has got in ages. You paid you own money so that we could get a region. Hamturk made a deal with you possibly. That was the normal India talking to you, still trying to work things out. But the other Croatia-trained India, found it all too little too late! Arrlo, our respect for you is immense. But you happened only after the dam has cracked, and then it was too late to stop it from breaking. The future course is very very important. I guess, there is still time to chalk that up.
Well, Croatia, you managed to disrepute the friends you had, managed to get them quit EDEN, managed to make them quit CoT. BiH and the rest of world need to blame CROATIA for the events in India. We are just forced to swim the currents of the time.
Bulgaria, we will always be our comrade-in-arms. Where ever we are whatever we are. God bless!
For the first time, I request all to shout out the link of my article. I was surprised to see so few people in Croatia know the truth. So please let it be known.
Comments
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gr8 article asmita!!! esp fr new ppl like me. good to know our history 🙂
There is potentially one demon hiding under the bed. What happens now if in a battle, India has to pick sides between Bulgaria and Serbia? The euphoria of the win should not let this tricky question be forgotten, it must be addressed sooner rather than later.
It will not be forgotten. There was a time we were Pro-EDEN and BG was fighting them. Guess what we did? We didnt fight for anyone. Those of us who really felt strongly, left India and joined BG to support them. For me personally, I will still go on to support BG. They are BFF.
Cool thinking Asmita, but what is the point of Alliance if you can't count on your Allies?
Give Serbia a chance. We, demonized as always by our enemies' propaganda, did more for India in last couple of days than those that came to your country months ago under pretext of being friends. Who knows, maybe cooperation between Serbia and India will evolve into something more. Only time will tell, but we have to at least give it a chance.
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Cant fault that arguement.
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o7 Every country ain't the same 🙂
Ofcourse... Mutual respect for each other and anyone is our friend...
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for eIndia's sake i hope you are not full of bullshit like when you dealt with eIndia before, and I hope eIndia will have steady economy in the future...
I never dealt with India as an official from Serbia...
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time will tell then, let's hope for the best for eIndia... and all are demonized by enemies propaganda, not just you... when everybody realizes that we all are the same, and only thing hat differentiate us is not our nation, but our psyche and actions.... there are murderers in every nation, and there are also saints... then we can build a better eWorld 🙂=
can we agree to disagree? thats the first step in good relations
We agree, but let's not reveal do we agree that we agree or that we disagree. : )))
jai hind
Atleast there are some gud guys in croatia like arrlo BUT Albania is full of spineless *******. I hate albania more than Croatia. they invaded the regions which we liberated from pakistan. next step must be to kick the A out. and i feel sorry for BiH they were really good guys but it must be done to have a region after a long long time..
My friend,poor albaians(who admins introduced to this game only in order to milk more Serbia) don't have any idea,that the criterias, you judge them by,even exist!No idea whatsoever😉
I agree on BiH thou.
Yeah they provided food and weapons at cheap rate.
Fun apart, BiH were quite strong and I'm not happy to have them wiped out.
I believe that every country in the world should have at-least one region for the congress.
o7 to Pak citizens who supported us.
Totally agree with the entire spirit of the article. Though I was really happy with India getting back its birthright, it was extremely odd to look at, at first. In the RL history too, the words "India" and "conquered" have never occurred without a "was" in between. But yes, India and its fight for Independence are world famous. This was a fight for freedom from occupation, but it also wiped out a country in the process, and I am both sad and worried because of that.
For the first time in months we were able to deliver some relief to you. I felt like a page had been turned and some wrongs could be righted in the best spirit of the game. You threw that away at the first chance you got at the promise of short term gains from Serbia, with your president assuring me you were friendly while negotiating all the while with our worst enemies.
You had a good friend in me, but you will find a good enemy in me too, if this really is the path you choose.
This is the thing I don't like about you guys. With all due respect and with no intent to offend an experienced player like you, I must say that why do you have to suddenly flip from "trying to help" to "trying to wipe out"? Maybe you really were trying to help, maybe we didn't accept it because of the shaky history of your country, and maybe it wasn't a good move on our part. Shouldn't you be neutral after that? We haven't done anything against you? Do you consider any act of any country that isn't by your book as 'defiance'? "You had a good friend in me, but you will find a good enemy in me too, if this really is the path you choose." These very words of yours send a chill down my spine, and the chill is not of fear. No true Indian would fear a larger force. The chill is due to the realization that human beings, after centuries of wars and destruction, are still as intolerant as ever.
My words were carefully chosen because unfortunately, thanks to your president and the happy reaction to the outcome of his duplicitous behaviour, I feel like my good faith in all of you has been misread as weakness.
No one read it as weakness, trust me! They may all have personal respect from them, but the "The evil that men do lives after them;" You are just a sad victim
I'm sure,you wouldn't need it,but i'll give you a slight perspective: #jebeskrave.
You can make yourself the difference,how it sounds from a good friend and how it sounds from a good enemy. All our little e-nation cared for in this "game" and was willinig to offer was Friendship.
I have never defended and will never defend people who insulted you.
"The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;"
-thats what I started it with. After the long list of failures, you could have been the messiah! or you could be another of the list.
You current excuse again counterminds your nature my frnd. I have been bullied by everyone who i come across. Now i have learnt to fight back, I have done it only when you are around, that makes me bad.
Arrlo, you agree to the wrongs you have done. Today you beleive we did our first wrong. If we could keep believing you after so many wrongs, you cant take one wrong against you? Really!! The first wrong by your book, imagined or otherwise, made you bare your fangs?
Is this what you define as being fair!!!
I'm not a messiah, I just try to do the right thing. And I don't calmly ignore anything, I take everything into account and tried to improve the situation as I inherited it.
You have to consider how it looks to eCroats when a president finally manages to give you a break, overruling advice from past governments, military strategists and extreme trolls. I risked impeachment and alienation, exposed myself to the trolls and to my opposition, put my reputation on the line to try to help improve things. I don't regret doing that, and I never will. I only regret being naive enough to expect anything positive from you all.
Arlo, read Vlad's comment down there. Even after one yr or maybe more, I am the evil for bringing you on. What do you think of that? What do you think of the agreement made by arawnlives, what about Alias, what about srachit? what about hamturk? Dont you think it would ever come back to any of you! Sadly, you have to face it. My respect for you increases..... But sorry....
How calmly, you ignore all the wrongs you have done and take up only the last incident which doesnt suit you? Doesnt it mean, we will beat up India, if they dont agree to be beaten up quietly, they are bad!! Seriously, not from you!
There is no one in the entire country who says you or Croatia are weak. Why do you have to put words on our tongues that even our minds can't conceive? We just picked one side over the other, and you should get over it, instead of threatening a small country like ours. Again, no offence.
Arrlo as I see it, and as would any common person in eIndia, is that we were occupied, and we have a right to take back our regions. Yes BiH was a *good* occupier but with the recent dealings gone sour with you guys, it was high time before something like this happened. It is a game, meant to be played as a game. And when a country goes back on its promises as many time as Croatia has done, we simply have no choice. you should understand the meaning of being wiped. It was our right to get free, and we did. Occupiers calling us betrayers is just hypocritical.
Yes because Croatia was sooo good to us over the last few months werent they? Deals broken at every turn for little more reason than "we can get away with it"
interesting eHistroy fact: but for the word of 2 Croats Sucko and Roby Petric Serbs and Croats would be fighting together today 🙂
ABC happened only because we are too open-hearted and people sometimes(most of the times,actually) misuse us...
Talking about B of ABC, wiping BiH seems legitimate since there pact with us was only for Congress (of the month) and on the 6th of next month, the agreement was to end... :/ they didn't leave.. and we couldn't get congress later... 🙁
Now the A of ABC, AV was the CP then, when Albania came here (maybe they or Belarus was coming to wipe Pak at that time)...they said they would have gujarat...ONLY 😒 (well, Maha,Karnataka,AP and Kerela ain't Guj. )..... but they were too strong to be stopped... the Only factor which is responsible for eIndia's current situation..
I salute Serbs, so what if they have some personal motive behind it, atleast they aren't renting any of the regions 😛 so Serbs o7
Now we have enough been under occupation (for 40-50 eYears, u see the 5th are CP elections, so one month is 4 eYear 😛 ) and slowly and steadily every foreign power on our lands will be wiped 😉
Jai Hind
Pikachu was here
Cant argue with that either!
i just kept my point... no need to argue 🙂
"I salute Serbs, so what if they have some personal motive behind it!"- There were time when some "older" eBiH players that have friends in eSerbia have begging us to allow them 1 region so they could make an AS and leave Balkan. Some influential eSerbian players push that idea through. In that time, few MU's from eSerbia have easily defended eBiH RW's... So, we let them do that. Then, they grow stronger. Not buy themselves - in number of player’s etc- but in possibilities of having MPP battles, in possibility to paying MPP's. So- result of all of that was eBiH NE on eSerbia, taking some eSerbian core regions with their ally's etc... So, look at all of this like "enemy of my enemy is my friend". There are no good or bad invaders. There are only invaders. Do not think eBiH is your friends. What’s more, they are amazed how can you even dare to ask 8 of your core regions. Imagine that!!! So, this was wrath of eSerbia, here in eIndia. And even not all of eSerbia. Just few MU's. Many eSerbs have fight on epic battles and wherever they wanted. This "eIndia liberation" was not state project! Just wrath of few eSerbian MU's. Yes, we have accepted your MPP, but that was it. No MoD orders, no Government directives to fight in eIndia. If you really want friendship with eSerbia, your diplomats must work on it. Hard work I would say, because we have sympathies for you guys- but no actual interests. For some future time, we will fight side by side with you, but not eSerbia- WE like one or few MU's, couple of players, maybe 10, maybe 100... So, if you really want friendship with eSerbia and full of our support- you should work on it. But, if you consider eCroatia and eAlbania as a better friends- fine by us! But- that (your attitude) will have no influence in future events 😉 We did not ask you (you as for eIndia) anything, we won’t ask you anything. We do in our best interest. But- we won’t occupy you. Greetings.
I know my attitude won't affect anything ... but what is the wrong in saying...these were my personal views. Regards
@Akshit IInd You did not understood me. When I said "you (you as for eIndia" I thought eIndia as a country not you personally. There is nothing wrong about saying your opinion. These comments are used for.
Shame Asmita, shame on you. You are taking credit on behalf of eIndia for something that eSerbia and TWO did.
eIndia would still be wiped if it wasn't for eSerbia's disdain for BiH
@Addy, my frnd. Where were you? I so expected your comment on my last article where i named you. Then someone told me, you actually moved on.
However, all said and done....
Please quote the parts where 'I' have taken credit? I have expressed surprise? Or does old age not allow to have the patience to read the whole document! And yes, when I said the CP delivered, well he did. He spoke to Serbia, he got the MPPs, he co-ordinated....so why not take the credit?
So yeah, we used Serbia's loathing to free our regions. Does it really take off all that has happened??? Does it absolve Croatia of all the misdeeds they part of??
Talk sense Addy, expect more maturity from you!
I left a message for you on that article.
Nice to see that eIndia is changing sides again to TWO, this is actually very consistent, hopping from bed to bed to bed.
Yes, says the MU who has been hoping from bed to bed themselves!!! Hehehe!! Addy, a little more thought in your comments, if you please.
Let me give you a stark contrast of culture Addy, somethign you never understood of Indians.
Being an Indian Woman, we are often married off to men who we see for the first time and then stay loyal to him through out life. Versus, in US or Canada, the idea is to date various men and then choose one to live with! Even then, divorce rates are oh so high. Infidelity is not so uncommon! Am i right, my frnd?
Now to this game, read again my frnd. We didnt hop, we were made to hope, all thanks to your frnds Croatia. How long after that did EDEN last Addy? Ever went back to think why your glorious alliance couldnt stay together? How Come croatia's closest buddy Romania is fighting with the Serbs?
Introspection my frnd, its about time you start doing that!
EDEN stayed together for three years, longer than any other alliance in this game, I would say they are the most successful alliance this game has ever seen.
Touche on the MU that hops from bed to bed.
Why isn't eIndia more like Indian women and remaining loyal throughout it's existence? I see no loyalty from eIndia. Is that because it is primarily influenced by Indian men or is it because nobody has sat the woman (eIndia) down and told her whom to marry?
No Addy, we have been loyal. Loyal to EDEN for almost as long as it existed. Now, we were taught all the new stuff, the western culture by the likes of you and Croatia!! Turning back on deals, treachery, cheating!! You can just call us good students of Croatia.
Touche that it hurts Croatia now when we do things they have been doing for months!
Dont even discuss our loyalty! Our oh-so-frndly Croatia got our full support even after we quit EDEN, against Indonesia, who wanted to come wipe them and liberate us. Well if loyalty is to beat up India bcoz they left the alliance that lasted 3yr and then disintegrated 1 month after India left...We are not loyal dude!! forgive us, its a new dictionary!
Now I think, India did good denying you what they did!
I don't agree with Addy but I strongly disagree with your useless/uneducated following comments - "Being an Indian Woman, we are often married off to men who we see for the first time and then stay loyal to him through out life. Versus, in US or Canada, the idea is to date various men and then choose one to live with! Even then, divorce rates are oh so high. Infidelity is not so uncommon! Am i right, my frnd?"
i have a question. aren't we supposed to ignore this man coz he is alwyas so full of crap?
i think he's offering more of fun element..
A person should have his critic near to him..
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