Russia, Stand Up for Yourselves--Россия, пришло время постоять за себя
Armour144
For russian version (google translate, might not make sense): Русская версия:
http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=ru&u=http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/russia-stand-up-for-yourselves-921860/1/20&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ca&usg=ALkJrhiiK1h7wzBWg16CIS8bwjeU5mYSnQ
Finally, just over the past week or so, it appears that some Peace countries have come to their senses and realised just what has been happening over the past couple of months, just how much they have been used. France has realised this. Italy has realised this. Portugal has realised this. There’s no doubt that you guys will realise it next, it’s just up to you to decide when you will face the facts.
This North American war started not too long ago, with France and Russia invading Canada and the US. Do you guys know why you invaded them? Because that was what Hungary and Indonesia wanted. They wanted to capture our population, to use our high resources.
And what do you know, the invasion nearly worked, but didn’t completely succeed. France pushed through Canada, taking valuable regions such as Ontario and Quebec. The UK came along too, but only to stop Canada or the US from counter-attacking.
The UK helped invade Canada because they thought they would get something out of it. They thought that they might end up with a new territory or two. And they did, they got Alberta and a few other provinces.
But the moment that Canada was wiped from the map, resistances flared up, all of them in UK held territories. Very quickly Canada had been reborn, and the UK had been reduced to only Alberta as their prize from the war.
But then, Alberta was attacked, and it too fell to the resistance fighters. Before the UK knew it, they had been booted from North America, because THEY GOT NO HELP FROM PEACE.
Sure, Peace seemed like the nice guy, taking the UK in to their alliance, giving it a few Canadian regions. But when it came down to it, when the UK needed Peace most, they turned a blind eye to them, ignored them, and pretended that the UK didn’t need help.
France had taken over a few highly populated regions, including Ontario Quebec and BC. Things were looking good for them, they had just won their part of a war, having conquered Canada, and now had 3 very valuable regions to show for it. They had also conquered Spain and held Asturias.
But of course, that didn’t last long either. Before they knew it, BC had fallen, followed by Quebec. Resistances all over Spain started popping up, and those succeeded easily. Suddenly, France, who had not long ago held most of Spain and three valuable Canadian regions had been reduced to 1 Canadian region and just a few Spanish ones. By this point in the war, it had become obvious to the resistance that France wasn’t receiving any help from Peace, just as what had happened to the UK.
Portugal had seen what was going on, they could see how they were being used in a war that they didn’t want to get into. They got out of it by signing an agreement with the US, and pulled out of the entire fiasco as fast as they could. They did this because they knew, they knew that if any serious RW’s sprung up, they wouldn’t get help because Hungary and Indonesia are too occupied trying to figure out how to get more land for themselves.
Then came along a major blow to the Peace alliance. They defended California, but at a great cost, but they lost Ontario, Asturias, and Serbia wasted a lot of gold in Slavonia.
California was the focus of all Peace tanks, even though Asturias is a more important region (but as I pointed out before, this was France’s region, and Peace was turning a blind eye to it). France was ganged up on by Canada, Spain and numerous F/E fighters. At this point, Mathieu Bonne, former Peace Secretary General wrote an article. I suggest you all read it now… http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/chronique-d-une-d-faite-annonc-e-chronicle-of-a-defeat-foretold-920277/1/all
He explains in it how badly France had been used by Peace, how much of a puppet they had been. They had gone through the entire war, and spent thousands of gold just so that Hungary and Indonesia could get what they wanted. France was even criticized for not being able to hold their territories on their own. They had fallen for the trap, and now they had almost nothing to show for the ENTIRE WAR.
During the entire invasion, Russia has been a force that has conquered large amounts of the US as well it took New Jersey and New York. Do you guys know how much you spent on taking regions like that? You guys have fought hard during this entire war, spending thousands of gold, and now Peace wants you to give up some of your regions. Why? Because now Peace wants Russia to RW New York (and other regions) back to the Americans so that you can all focus on defending California.
Yes, that’s right, they want you to RW away some of your captured regions, regions you spent hundreds, if not thousands, of gold to get. And now Peace wants you to just give it back…for free. You guys get nothing out of it, in fact you lose a lot of things, all so that Indonesia gets more help.
This Indonesia, which wants YOU to give up YOUR REGIONS, is the same Indonesia who currently holds Western Siberia, a region which rightfully belongs to YOU!
Take a moment to think about that for a second. Indonesia holds your territory, which you should own, and wants you to give up more territories so that Indonesia doesn’t lose another one. Nice logic there Peace…
How can you guys stand for a government which does whatever it can to help Indonesia, when you don’t even have your original territories back from your “allies”? How can you all fight for these “allies” when they want you to sacrifice your regions for them?
You guys have been treated like France has; you’ve been ignored, because to Indonesia and Hungary the only thing your country represent is an area with High resources for the taking. They think that if you try to stand up for yourself, that they can just stomp you back into place because your government fears them!
Well I say take a stand, take a stand against Indonesia, Hungary, and Peace, just like what France and Portugal have/are doing. You won’t be alone; your country doesn’t need to be a puppet anymore.
Before you post anything, just think of what you country will really gain from this entire war, from being used. Are these “allies” of yours really going to help you if there is a major counter attack against your foreign regions? Can you really call Indonesia and Hungary your allies when they charge you gold if you want to reclaim your own original regions? Why don’t you take a stand, like what France and Portugal are doing? Think about it.
Comments
Russian version:
Русская версия:
http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=en&tl=ru&u=http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/russia-stand-up-for-yourselves-921860/1/20&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ca&usg=ALkJrhiiK1h7wzBWg16CIS8bwjeU5mYSnQ" target="_blank">http://74.125.93.132/translate_c?hl=en&i[..]mYSnQ
Sad, but probably it's true.
Man, we did not choose our president, the first one was impeached the 2nd was a theft and stole the treasure.
As u see now, many people don't want to fight for RED in RW, but we can do nothing with it. We will try to choose another president, but current government, consisted of corrupted and evil individuals will impeach him again...
Sad, but probably it's true
Как бы прискорбно не было, но в статье очень много правды.
No worries, the blame for PEACE's crimes will probably not fall on the Russians, but most likely on Russian leadership. I'm probably amusing that Russia will probably want to be free at one point, and people will understand that it has been used, and it is not totally responsible for its involvement.
The Russians themselves are not to blame for all this. PEACE is to blame.
Russia needs to think of their country, are you really better of with PEACE who holds your best regions occupied.
Or would it be better to help us, then we can help you get West Siberia back, 13 on 1 USA-Indonesia style.
>>and stole the treasure.
Oh,tell me more
Ten thousand gold.
Sad, but many things are true.
Funny, at the start of the war Russians were pretty okay with taking us out, and that PEACE wouldn't turn their backs on them. And seeing the comments above, it shows how much things change. I really hope we can have better relations with Russia and France in the future.
This article was written by a canadian citizen.
Many people in eRussia understand this situation. But our government has their own interest in this situation (maybe money)...
Russia in Real World = eRussia - politicians have their own interest and they use majority of population to reach their own interests.
What a bunch of lies.😃
Russia has to RW back those regions to be able to escape from the eternal blocking of Canada. It's not for focusing on California but to be able to take out the entire USA...
2 Nagyzee 🙂)) Yeah - we do not need your California... We need all the eWorld 🙂))))
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-new-election-strategy-922069/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-ne[..]/1/20
А мне вот кажетсячто автор очень батхёрт
Voted!
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at least Hungarians gave back Urals to Russia
вопрос только что сделают с Россией Канада и США если мы выйдем из союза с Индонезией?
Ya they gave Urals back...but how much GOLD did you have to pay them again?
We got Urals...
7,000 gold for Urals, those are some good "Allies"
@Scolot (used a translator lol)
Все зависит от того, если ваше правительство принимает дружественную позицию по отношению к нам или нет, потому что мы открыты для новых союзников
Heh. Russia has a lot of regions now - but many of them are taken not by native forces but with the help of PEACE. And Indonesia.
Return of Siberia can be the question of politics, not war.
This game still can bring some fun 😉
I started this game about a week before the war started. Man I hated the Russians, but if it is really just a corrupt government I can sympathize. Good luck Russia, Indo and Hungary have become the things that they once (from what I read) stood against.
i don't care if it's canadian or US porpaganda. the reality is that our ALLIES hold our territories. we are mad at the romanians when they conquered our country, but they were our enemies, was understandable. why dont't we hold sumatra or kalimantan, see if eIndonesia likes it. and about hungarians, they gave back Urals, but still hold Caucasus....shame on them. They treat us like puppets and second class members of PEACE.
ну и что??? штаты предлагают нам помочь вернуть сибирь? не верю я в это. они вернут калифорнию и оставят нас один на один с индонезией. нафиг проще додавить штаты и на этом пока успокоиться
@Can you really call Indonesia and Hungary your allies when they charge you gold if you want to reclaim your own original regions?
Неумелая и наивная пропаганда. Всем известно что мы не ОТДАЛИ голд, а КУПИЛИ iron-компании на урале.
After all, without eIndonesia entire eRussian Asia would still be under eRomanians, and if attacking Slavonia helps eIndonesia keep the California, than we'll keep on, 'couse without eIndonesian and eHungarian help we would still be eCroatian colonies.
Я конечно супер нуб, но мне кажется альянсы никогда не бывают равносильны.
Думаю такие союзники как еВенгрия и еИндонэзия нужны еРоссии, тут всё упирается в то как сама еРоссия себя поставит, в конечном итоге еСША и еКанада точно нам не друзья.
Самым правильным думаю былобы, для еРоссии координировать свои действия с еФранцией и отстаивать общую позицию в Альянсе.
Распад союза с еИндонезие и еВенгрией конечно навредят им но навредят и еРоссии, выиграют от этого только общие противники.
@Armour144
Yea, right - exAtlantis is always open for new allies.
Remember incident with eGermany?
Step 1. Accept new ally in alliance
Step 2. Destroy new ally
While exAtlantis consists of countries like eRomania, eSweden, eFinland, ePoland, eCroatia etc. who has comited numerous crimes and has absolutely no respect for other countries - there is no point even consider something like that.
I think, that the author of this article is in the state of major butthurt. I cannot tell, whether what was said about other countries is true, but from my, russian point of view, the situation looks like this:
1) We start RWs in regions along the canadian border to get rid of this annoying blocking.
2) PEACE starts major assault on the former United States.
3) ???
4) Profit.
Prove me wrong.
Вообще-то нам помогали и во время атаки американцев на дальний восток, и во время нашего наступления на американские штаты, - все наши атаки были оплачены за счёт союзников.
По поводу того что происходило с Францией, как поступили с Британией, - то один из трёх фронтов. Силы нельзя разбрасывать во все стороны. Где-то команда бьётся, где-то разыгрывается отвлечение.
Что было важнее, - победить Канаду или Америку?
Ситуация, которая сложилась на данный момент меня, почему-то не пугает. Я считаю что нужно держаться своих союзнических обязательство.
eden propaganda
КГ/АМ.
1)Раз уж начал корчить аналитика или геополитика, напомнил бы общественности про нападения Пендостана на ДВ. Всё это развязали не мы.
2)Вот эта мысль, про то, что Индо хотят сдачи наших регионов США для того, чтобы мы помогли оборонять калифорнию - кал высшей пробы.
Я думаю, что наше правительство и мы сами должны вести себя не как продажные шкуры, выгадывая какой союз принесёт больше выгоды. Нужно вести себя самоуверенно и борзо. Даже ошибаться надо уверенно и стараться эту ошибку превратить в "а мы так и планировали". Союзник может быть идеальным только если он на все 100% подчиняется тебе. Либо придётся идти на компромисс. А позор предательства не смывается никогда.
Что же касается ЗС... Чего вы все так переживаете за несколько байт на румынских серверах? Да пусть будет. Как по мне, так перспектива приятного розового цвета на североамериканского континента намного приятнее перспективы т.н. территориальной целостности. К слову, она (территориальная целостность) слегка ухудшит обороноспособность страны. Ведь ЗС может быть хорошим буфером, если что-то не так пойдёт.
The writer of this article has no idea what he's talking about.
пишите для русских-пишите на русском!
tl;dr misinformed emeristani asks us to betray our allies. i think not.
USA propaganda.
anthropomorphous, it's called boar slander.
The writer of this article has been around longer then any of YOU so maybe he does, hmm?
ляляля три рубля муха тоже верталет. я просто непонимаю почему не дожали америкахов.
So silly. Hug Americans, be friends with Canadians. Who gives a f*ck that the first tried to invade us and the second covered them?
What this war can give us? Fun. Like any other 'war' in this game - nothing less and nothing more.
В этой игруле мы уже один раз чуть не слили последний континиум, а сейчас просто стараемся "набить побольше очков". Зачем страдать по этому поводу? Наша программа-минимум выполнена. У нас есть хай-регионы по всем ресурсам, у нас огромное население (в том числе благодаря этой войне), у нас было больше месяца тренировочных войн, фактически оплаченных союзниками, наконец, оторвалась русская душа, покатавшись на танках по американщине.
This article should land in the bin. Poor eFrance has been used boohooo....we gave them a baby boom. Our daily orders were to click on a french site, so they could achieve victory there. You can see the results. France is right now one of the highest populated states on eRepublik. They also got canadian and spanish regions (among those Asturias,but if someone is not strong enough to keep it, it's their fault).
On the russian situation: if you invest over thousands (!) of gold into a single (!) region, which was the engine of the ehungarian weapon industry (no iron->no weapon->no army->no strengh= weak country), would you just give it away for free, without another region to compensate for the loss? H3ll no. You would like to have another one. And this was Heolingjiang (HelloKitty). This was the main reason the war got started. We wanted to give the Urals back to YOU, and wanted to have another high region. And don't tell me you got nothing out of the deal. Let's see the facts.
PEACE and allied nations benefits for WW3:
eHungary: HelloKitty, Alaska, Manitoba, Nunavut
eGermany: was liberated from the polish TO
eFrance: babyboom, spanish regions (which they have lost by now, but french critic could come for another time)
eIndonesia: California.
eRussia: Urals, soon Northern Caucasus, Northern Korea fully annexed, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Cansas...ca. the half of North-America.
So is eRussia REALLY used? I see the war as a Win-win situation for Russia and PEACE.
There is one important thing.
You speak with eRussian citizens.
Do you think, that our government cares about us?
___________
So,
This article is written about very complicated problem...
But, I think, there is one absolutely clear thing - eRussia should have its own aims, not FRP's or PEACE's. [I'm not speaking about joining exAtlantis, at least we should decide, what are our targets...]
And as de-facto FRP rules our country, eRussia will take decisions only for profit of FRP, not ever PEACE.
Hope next time our new parties should be more organized and will take more seats in a Congress.
Russians hate betrayers since 1937. And you can't do anything about this becouse it's in their minds. It's simple: You can go and snitch about your neighbour, but if in eRussia do this, that person won't cost any respect ever.
I suppose, that some grain of truth presence in this article, but you came to wrong audience.
We have paid for companies in Ural.
TRUE!
i strongly believe there are a lot of good russian ppl. we should unite and fight against indonesia.
Voted + subscribed .. a really good article
read mine too
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/moldova-is-on-the-map-uraa-oh-wait-what-about-the-economy--923391/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/mold[..]/1/20
Индонезия и Венгрия сливают пис? Я правильно понял?
I know im very late, but great article, great post.