No Guts, No Glory - the Innards of the Canadian Progressive Front
Day 1,796, 16:22
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by Auk Rest
Funky's latest article has certainly gotten me thinking about the CPF, what has happened and what future may await us. This is essentially a commentary on Funky's article with some thoughts of my own.
Funky is right on the point that the CPF's focus has been lost. I am not saying the Party is doomed or that what happened can be attributed to any one item. CPF used to have many opinions, many voices and many stances, but they all ultimately reflected the Tenets and a general idea of accountability in the eCanada forum. Now, more or less, we are a party obsessed with democratic consensus on every issue to vote en masse on said consensus whenever it should arise.
A cloud seems to have risen on our past, and some may have forgotten what the Party stands for, no matter what the Tenets may say.
But what can be done? Quite frankly it all boils down to participation. In the largest party in eCanada you wouldn't expect a Party to have so few leaders or voices calling the shots, or even people willing to make those decisions. I'm not calling out anyone in particular, and there are still quite a few great individuals in the CPF, but as a % of the party's population, it is disappointing.
The participation is evident in any of the CPF Moose Calls. Moose Call I is generally fairly active for a time, and the others also have activity occasionally, but then these can go days without any discussion. My numerous attempts to get people on our forums has resulted in just a few individuals even signing up, let alone actually posting anything.
You could argue that's just a result of some of the anti-forum/anti-irc business that some in the party hold, but if that's the case, then why are the in-game Moose Calls used only intermittently and the Feed dominated by the same ten people?
I'm not saying the Party is broken. I'm not saying the Party will be broken or head into decline even in the near future, but I am saying if no one does anything to stop this lack of opinion and take a stand on some matter, one day, we will.
Unlike Funky however, I don't believe in completely being rigid to the Tenets or go it alone without the support of any other Party, but there are times in which individuals should take a stand on principle. I feel very good about the relationship I've fostered with Clan Wolf, however we may be friends and political allies, but that doesn't mean we're the same thing and stand for everything the exact same. If we were, then we would already be together in the same Party. But we are not.
It’s time for the CPF to stand up and get back to driving on a straight, clear path, because we cannot stumble about without a cause forever.
Cheers,
-Auk
Funky is right on the point that the CPF's focus has been lost. I am not saying the Party is doomed or that what happened can be attributed to any one item. CPF used to have many opinions, many voices and many stances, but they all ultimately reflected the Tenets and a general idea of accountability in the eCanada forum. Now, more or less, we are a party obsessed with democratic consensus on every issue to vote en masse on said consensus whenever it should arise.
A cloud seems to have risen on our past, and some may have forgotten what the Party stands for, no matter what the Tenets may say.
But what can be done? Quite frankly it all boils down to participation. In the largest party in eCanada you wouldn't expect a Party to have so few leaders or voices calling the shots, or even people willing to make those decisions. I'm not calling out anyone in particular, and there are still quite a few great individuals in the CPF, but as a % of the party's population, it is disappointing.
The participation is evident in any of the CPF Moose Calls. Moose Call I is generally fairly active for a time, and the others also have activity occasionally, but then these can go days without any discussion. My numerous attempts to get people on our forums has resulted in just a few individuals even signing up, let alone actually posting anything.
You could argue that's just a result of some of the anti-forum/anti-irc business that some in the party hold, but if that's the case, then why are the in-game Moose Calls used only intermittently and the Feed dominated by the same ten people?
I'm not saying the Party is broken. I'm not saying the Party will be broken or head into decline even in the near future, but I am saying if no one does anything to stop this lack of opinion and take a stand on some matter, one day, we will.
Unlike Funky however, I don't believe in completely being rigid to the Tenets or go it alone without the support of any other Party, but there are times in which individuals should take a stand on principle. I feel very good about the relationship I've fostered with Clan Wolf, however we may be friends and political allies, but that doesn't mean we're the same thing and stand for everything the exact same. If we were, then we would already be together in the same Party. But we are not.
It’s time for the CPF to stand up and get back to driving on a straight, clear path, because we cannot stumble about without a cause forever.
Cheers,
-Auk
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Indeed.
~hyuu~
Aye.
How about focussing on 1 Tenet a month or two weeks or whenever, instead of trying to cover them all, all of the time. I think that if a discussion was centered for a time that participation would increase some.
Badly stated, but I'm short of time ATM. I'll go deeper into it a little later tonight.
Tenets are a good long range and broad base of value.
I think what Donna is saying is that we should have a small set of goals (2 or 3) based on specific tenets. This way the Tenets the party works on unison get traction, are either proven or disproven, and we advance the party with some sort of plan rather than fluffy Tenets that have value because of they are broadly true yet are not specifically demonstrated often enough.
Each Tenet should have related actions that demonstrate its relevance to the current game.
The CPF will always be all Tenets all the time. However, we can focus on certain issues and troubles one at a time.
" I feel very good about the relationship I've fostered with Clan Wolf, however we may be friends and political allies, but that doesn't mean we're the same thing and stand for everything the exact same"
Yes it does, At its very core Clan Wolf is a bunch of followers... They followed Tyrael Snow to the "AFK" in large part to a simple PM, - then later renamed it "Clan Wolf", backed him and his CP runs without question, and upon his departure, latched onto the CPF like a lost puppy
When Clan Wolf has solid leadership with a even stronger/clearer set of goals they plan to apply to eCanada, then I'll gladly be one CPFer who follows in the lead of Clan Wolf's party goals.
People should be reading the basic idea in this article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/candidates-for-unity-not-persons-at-all--2142234/1/20
~hyuu~
Very well written. The conclusion clearly underlines how most of us feel towards the situation. Unfortunately, I'm a part of the politically inactive % that makes up a large portion of the CPF. The Moose Calls and other discussions of these sort are definitely very interesting/engaging, and they provide a very good ground for people to share their opinions. However, due to the monotonous nature of the Canadian politics, there is really not much to discuss in large political groups.
After all, we are in the same party and our ideologies are not much different when it comes to the fundamentals. And unlike most of the other countries at war, we don’t face any important, life changing decisions that require the opinion of people like me. As a result of this, there’s barely anyone who would challenge others in the political discussions. Our Moose Calls are basically turning into someone initiating an idea, and the rest of the members agreeing to it.
One can clearly expect low participation levels in such discussion. That’s why I truly support you when you say “we cannot stumble about without a cause forever”. But I think the reason is not that our people are unable to voice their opinions, it’s because there is nothing important out there for them to discuss, therefore they simply take the comfort of letting others choose for them.
If Canada, as a whole, truly becomes dedicated and concerned about the future, it's only then that you would see an outstanding community willing to contribute voluntarily to any discussion, as we can already see in countries that are more active than us.
You have some valid points Alpha Eagle, but is it really such a high % of players that are actively engaged but content with whatever is being decided, or just a high % that rolls with the tide?
Great article Auk, I think a good question to ask, is what does an average eCanadian need a political party for?
Do the want us to help improve the economy? (very hard to do)
Do they want a fun community to join? (IRC, forums, in-game articles?)
Do they want more war, or less? (Poland, Spain, Antarctica?)
If there is no apparent need for them to be engaged, then we will see this lack of involvement, maybe thats a good thing, meaning not a lot is going bad?
"Yes it does, At its very core Clan Wolf is a bunch of followers... They followed Tyrael Snow to the "AFK" in large part to a simple PM, - then later renamed it "Clan Wolf", backed him and his CP runs without question, and upon his departure, latched onto the CPF like a lost puppy"
We'll see about that.
We never followed CPF we supported them, but you wouldn't know anything about support would you know, 'cuz you never had support from any eCanadian.
Now when you are running out of tanks and gold you are alone, once again. Clan Wolf followed Tyrael and will follow him 'cuz we only do things that are best for eCanadians. We supported CPF because at that time we didn't have good CP material. I now can say that on next CP elections Clan Wolf will have their candidate for CP no matter what. Now we do have CP material.
Tyrael has done for eCanada in a few months more than you have in your entire eLife.
Smoke, I am used to having the Party being a place for social gathering, so that does mean forums, IRC, but that's still not even necessary. If we had an active feed or a (more) active Moose Call, I wouldn't be writing this article.
Alpha Eagle I was talking to Rolo 🙂
Sorry Mochan Drust, my apologies. Comment deleted.
CPF, time to get up and stand up