Another one bites the dust.
Alias Vision
Impeachment motion that is.
Full disclosure because a) those that elected me have a right to know and b) it wouldn't be that hard to guess. I voted to impeach Rolo.
The vote failed by the smallest possible margin as 13 members of Congress said no.
The debate was framed along these lines (minus a lot of the name calling):
Rolo's theft is ancient history, it is just a game, get over it, he is the best candidate for the job of Country President.
Furthermore, we were told during the campaign by Addy and his Herd to give the proverbial finger to role play and elect a man based on mechanics alone.
Each of these points could have merit and indeed a lot of Canadians (vocal ones anyways) appear to have agreed with exactly that premise. After all, contrary to what the 35.9% approval rating would suggest, the race was never close.
I could never get that far with that argument, it would stick in my throat and I simply couldn't swallow.
Here is why:
First of all, it was role-play that deemed the previous impeachment of Rolo as illegal. Game mechanics, the First Rule of today's elite, was respected to the letter. Then role-play and community rules were good, now they are bad. This is Herd mentality.
Nine months is a long time, a lot of people around today won't be if we could look that far in the future. For some players it would be ancient history but it was something that really happened and affected everyone in Canada for months. Everything changed after that.
It is just a game and sometimes I wonder if the fact that the powers that be have destroyed the integrity of the game so many times over that old timers that now support Rolo feel they simply can't be bothered to protect the last things remaining... community and the spirit of the game manifest in the community.
Rolo best candidate for the job? You never know. A lot of people believed Kaz was ready and in the end he gave the country a spectacularly insulting exit while siding with the very people who had been his tormentors.
Parties supporting Rolo used tricks and lies to attract votes. That used to earn an automatic temp ban (from Admin) for the party president guilty of the stratagem... now it is matter of course.
So I wondered who the 13 Congressmen were... the first was easy, Addy has made no secret his involvement or his championing the Rolo cause. I figured a bunch would be easy and come from MOO but honestly, that is not true. Ehab would be another good candidate as he appeared to say as much a few times in Congress.
Jacobi voted to keep Rolo. That was/is just a hunch at the time but our God King knows his legacy is safe no matter what and he benefits more from a friend than an enemy when it comes to our reviled CP.
(Finally the exercise is futile as there was no advantage for pro-Rolo camp to whip any votes... they already knew and likely had voters from each party.)
So now I had three firm names, two of which are arguably some of the most influential public thinkers in Canada currently active. No wonder they weren't worried about the motion, they probably had all their ducks in a row for a while.
The final nail in the coffin is the apparent admission of Rylde that he cast the deciding vote. I say apparent because once upon a time I felt I could read the man, now I'm clueless.
The motion and Canada, had no chance against that unholy alliance.
Now the second wave of public opinion shaping has started. The message is not to spread hate, to accept things as they are. To feel honoured we have such an active and accomplished leader showing us the way.
Opposition is not automatically hate. I was not elected to Congress under the Rolo ticket, it was under the EPIC ticket which is a lot more about equality and community building than anything provided by our executive so far. If I disagree with the statements, actions of elected officials... as an elected official myself, am I not honour bound to raise my voice?
The crux of the matter however boils down to this... and you can take it as my tl:dr...
If you want to be my friend, you can't come to me nine months later and say, "Dude, that shit was messed up... now let me back in."
You stole from "me" (metaphorical me here) and now you want me to accept you back. So if I give you my cooperation, what are you going to give me back to try and mend fences and create a working relationship again.
You can't just use the Herd, make patronage appointments, rule by dictat and think that’s cool. You already poked me in the eye and laughed in my face. At least try to say hello first this time.
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Sorry, no pretty pictures.
expect money laundering next.
"First of all, it was role-play that deemed the previous impeachment of Rolo as illegal. Game mechanics, the First Rule of today's elite, was respected to the letter. Then role-play and community rules were good, now they are bad. This is Herd mentality."
THANK YOU!
I would suggest that Lavis Knight, as leader of HOPE with his articles of support,has set the tone for acceptance of Rolo as President far more than my comparative silence and bemusement on the topic has.
But as someone who deserved impeachment (and currently holds the record for attempted impeachments) for routinely flouting the Constitution over the course of several terms, it would be a tad hypocritical for me to condemn the 267 other people who voted Rolo for trusting the Presidency to a criminal.
jacobi: don't condemn others. Just yourself will do. You have not been silent, nor should you have been. Your position is clear. Mind you it changes depending on the audience.
Now I see that you are negotiating with rolo to have him use the stolen funds and assets in a way which is little more than money laundering. I understand it will benefit HOPE. But to characterize it as a "repayment attempt" seems mistaken.
Maybe there is too much "old" players who are still active and have a loud voice in eCanada.
I was "2-clickers" back when Rolo got impeach last september. I didn't follow the reasons why he was impeach and then stole the money. All I know is that they were something called "Project Mayhem" and this plan was pictured as being evil. I mostly learned about Rolo's first impeachment after, without, I guess, with all the drama associated with this even.
That might explains why I can live with Rolo as President. I think that most players that voted and support Rolo are fairly new to this game.
For the theft back in January, I blame Wes mostly, and since I was very active at this time, I would never accept him as being CP. But who know, maybe in a year or two, if he still around, he will be reelected as CP by a future new bunch of players. And the same debate will take place between the new and old players, but this time I will be on the "old" side.
I'm going to be completely honest with you, Oliver. I have no idea what sort of high minded principles I'm supposed to have right now. At noon when I logged in, Rolo had more than 40% of the vote with 450 votes in. My entire concept of what the eCanada community is, what it stands for, what levels of decency and standards it has was completely thrown out the window.
Since then I've been in a "save what I can, do what I can" mode. Part of that means making sure the 30 people (25 who have fought in the past 24 hours) I supply on behalf of Lavis, the government, and my own funds can get the best possible funding that they can get while still being fair to any other group that deserves it.
That's the extent of my "what's right and what's wrong" at the moment. That's all that I'm really quite certain of. The rest is frankly bewildering to me.
"My entire concept of what the eCanada community is, what it stands for, what levels of decency and standards it has was completely thrown out the window."
Sounds like Operation: Purge Canada may be for you.
I'm going to be completely honest with you, Oliver.
that is a good start. Accepted.
Hey you can still publish some stuff Alias, Glad to see this.
There is still a bit of ethic in this country. Not that much, but there is. And one day, it will probably shine again.
"Everything changed after that."
Yes.
"The final nail in the coffin is the apparent admission of Rylde that he cast the deciding vote."
I have no words.
"And one day, it will probably shine again."
No. Love you though and one day we'll meet up on Cresent or St.Denis and polish off some Labatt50, enjoy some surf and turf and you can try to explain it all to me.
Excellent article. Voted.
I've always respected Alias Vision and his article is right on the mark.
I think he overstates how much political influence I have, otherwise I wouldn't have lost the CP election twice.
This last impeachment was more about "should we let Rolo stay" as opposed to "should we kick Rolo out" and there is a big difference.
At least seven more days of excitement, and that is a good thing.
Addy is right. If he had so much political capital he would have one at least one CP election* (and he did not loose because people didn't trust him with the moniez). As Jacobi said the old elite was shocked with the result and blaming Addy was just the easiest solution. But who believes in monocausal happenings, anyway?😁
*he pobably would win an election these days.
Apparently, anyone can win an election these days. The standards sure are falling.
Muglack and Aeriala disagree with you, Greene12 😛
Greene12 for CP
Greene12 for eva
Sorry Greene12, first wb. 😁
Second, just to clarify, I understand rolo stole this election.
So, it's not just that "anyone can win an election these days". It's that rolo was involved. See how it all makes sense now?
I'm semi-retired these days and I missed election day and was fairly surprised he pulled it off when I logged in on the 6th, but I was one of those who voted against the impeachment - its one of those things that you either get or you don't, I guess - at certain points in time apparently a significant number of us feel our establishment just needs a humbling dose of someone like Rolo - hopefully they get the message so the prescription doesn't have to be renewed
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