[C4] Our Circle Of Trust
Haselrig
* Note: the following article was written by C4 Press Corps writer and captain of the 7th Regiment, TimbusReven. The publishing of this article was delayed by the author suffering a rather serious leg injury. My hope is that this article still holds relevancy for the reader despite the passage of time and a subsequent change in administrations - Haselrig
→ Hi folks My name is TimbusReven on here. Now lately I have noticed a lack of information on our alliance COT. No one seems to know anything and those that do are tight lipped. Now a need for discretion is understood but could no one make a domestic paper and share a few things like hey so and so is in an intense struggle with so and so over some issues or some such? I know it wouldn’t be the best read ever and there would be so much black ink on some subjects you could sum it up in a simple saying. NOYFB.
Well I decided it was time to ask around. I sent out a good chunk of PMs with the hope of gathering not only opinions but also facts. Things that would reassure the people that this alliance is indeed the alliance we need to be in. I wish i could say on my grand ghost hunt i found promising signs. I wish this was the SCIFY channel and i had some BS people to throw out fake woohoos. But alas this is malarkey.
What I found was anyone who was in the know simply said, I can’t say , I don't have an opinion, Or my favorite. The silent treatment. Now people say well these people are busy. Well folks I doubt anyone is any more busy than our current CP Paul. Guess what he did respond back to me. Guess what he didn't have time but then after my last attempt at approaching him, He responded back apologizing for not getting to it the day before. This guy our CP thought that it was worth apologizing for being something that isn't all his fault. Being busy. So to start this article I would like to give a big thanks to anyone who got a PM from me and took the time to either talk or give me a no comment response. You people are what makes my Task bearable.The reason why i continued with this article.
Look I have lost my interest in this topic of the article. The fact is that the crap responses and the realization that some people showed me means i want to share the responses with you. I want to share with you something else. My realization on why this won't work at all.
My favorite responses? Well you’ll see for yourself.
This was my basic query to those I messaged. There was some difference at first but then I copy pasted. Trust me 50 messages or more of the same bloody crap can become quite a nuisance:
"I am looking for peoples opinions on COT. If you wouldn't mind sharing your views on the alliance and how you feel about how its doing that would be awesome.
This is for an Article if you do not wish for your views to be shared or known it is cool, Thanks for the time."
Ludonarr
Good intentions only count for so much. We have some great allies in CoT, but at the end of the day we are not able to put up the kind of damage we need to in order to win key battles.
ME - Hmm, I think many would agree with you. Our alliance did poorly in this latest exchange.
Yes it did. If we are going to be in an alliance we need to have each other's backs. CoT doesn't seem to do that very well at all.
Ps The ghost and I had a great conversation.
Ghost of Tom Joad
TimbusReven to Ghost of Tom Joad
Sounds good. Hey another question. It seems like most people cant find much info about cot. How do you fair on this?
Ghost of Tom Joad to TimbusReven
I've only know what people write. Since Bruce Phallus, stopped doing WWR, it's been scarce.
TimbusReven to Ghost of Tom Joad
Yeah kinda creepy the lack of information available
Ghost of Tom Joad to TimbusReven
An article about alliances:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ctrl-balkanika-two-according-to-the-one-leadership--2288403/1/20
TimbusReven to Ghost of Tom Joad
interesting read.
Ghost of Tom Joad to TimbusReven
It has some perspective.
We had a convo about the alliance names and such but his help and this article showed me alot.
Ronald Gipper Reagan
I talked to RGR. His typical response was recieve
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COT is a mixed bag. Those who help the eUSA elitists against us should form their own alliance, the 'Circle of Traitors'.... so I favor parts of CoT, and parts of it are garbage. It is not doing a good job because it is getting its clock cleaned all over the map.
Free area was Lame in this approach. My hopes for their perspectives was pretty much crushed. RGR responded with COT is BS and such and we should go to two. We did have a decent Conversation After this but that's private.
Free area let me down. After his awesome show of intellect and such his response was Along the lines of COT BLOWs and TWO ROCKS. Area if you read this, I hate you for letting me down. Out of anyone I PM’d you were my best hope for a diverse and decent response. Instead I received a 3 year old response to a 7 year old question. Thanks man Lost my respect.
ROPER 70
Roper responded quite fast. His response was one that i found quite true:
We've been wiped, clearly CoT doesn't support its allies or non are strong enough to compete with TWO. Personally I like all in CoT but if your alliance fails to support you in a huge time of need then they aren't very good allies.
I like CoT for the most part but I thought the whole idea of a alliance was to help protect each other. I don't see that being both way atm so can't say I'm happy with current situation, that's not all on CoT of course.
my response to this:
This is understandable. Do you feel the public is kept apprised of our situations with cot?
Roper - No I don't man, I have to go looking for what little info I know and I'm a CO of this MU. Was former CO of eusaf Air Force so would expect I'd have contacts but nope lol
Let me say i was happy that with my limited resources I wasn't alone in this respect.
WINGFIELD
wingfield to TimbusReven
I feel that it was the wrong move but we had alienated old friends and might not have had much choice. That said, it has not actually done is much good.
TimbusReven to wingfield
Very true.it seems like weve left ourselves to be bullied because of this. Do you think we can find a better alliance, Perhaps Salvage COT. I know its annoying how this exchange is going.
wingfield to TimbusReven
Not sure either way. Our current leadership is prone to getting friendly with the mega-alliance people out of game and then telling us what is good for us. It helped cause the problem with our old allies. We need to see which countries are willing to talk on a "clean slate" basis and then agree to open and equal partnerships.
wingfield to TimbusReven
I'd like to be friends with the Greeks again, at any rate.
Wingfield i think the greeks were great too.
A fellow Cocker felt like i could use some more. I loved this:
Lurunin
Lurunin to TimbusReven
think i posted a thing before about these guys. i honestly believe they dp more harm than good for us currently. 40% of CoT was wiped when i last looked it up. of those 40%, only a select few are actually fighting and trying to be back on the map.
the rest don't help us in any way from the feeling of it. where have our supposed allies been when we got wiped? or when their other allies got wiped even. apathy is what caused this to happen and apathy is what will allow it to continue.
In order for the eUS to grow again, it will need to do one or both of the following imo:
1- ally with those who are currently unaligned (Brazil is currently the nation with the largest population and therefore, largest potential pool of fighters and economy. best part is they seem very friendly to CoT nations so much convincing may not be needed)
Thats my opinions section. Good bunch of gents to respond.
I pmed many others included in this bunch were some such as Josh Frost, SC, DerpHoof, Artela, Tenshibo, ect ect ect. I could list them all. Colbert and Frost both took the side of being in the current administration and not being able to comment. Ok i dig that. But then Why is it that most of these others many of whom are in positions just blow me off, or don't have an opinion, or my fave a PP and i Quote here said , I just like to kill servs.
Hell we all like to kill servs guys but if your a PP and you don't have a bloody opinion Maybe you should step down and go do the MU game like me. I don't have a serious opinion I dont keep up with all the Politics and such. So I don't do Politics. But hey Screw it no one wants to take a stance or risk their standing by stating what is said as opinions. People this isn't an official stance by these people They could change their minds by now. some of these are 2 or more weeks old. So dont go all buckwild THEY ARENT CONCRETE.
Fact is I saw the problem. Our government wont tell us anything. They want sheeple. Welp, I contribute to this so I cant call down the thunder and see the whirlwind. SC quote for you nerds.
I wanted to say this and end this Ramble.
My name is an anagram. if you haven't figured that out then figure it out. Its so simple that ill give a dead giveaway hint. Whats racecar??? PM if you still don't understand.
That's my philosophy, My way of life. The very way i think. Maybe its time we all changed for the better, Maybe we should have our own opinions. Maybe unity killed the Leaders of this country. Made them lazy like tenshibo. The guy was a ghost in most of his term. Paul at least is visible and A general nice guy.
So thank you Paul for your response, Thanks for showing me that not every Government guy is a pawn. and thanks for just taking the time to try to help my article out. Maybe if people acted more like you my article would have been more on the original target. Instead of an angry rant of a mad man.
My humblest Regards;
Timbus Reven.
Comments
Good work and get better buddy, o7
CoT's plans are so secret even the guy who came up with the plan can recall it.
That's what we like to call 'Double Top Secret" 😛
Oh my
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Respect for speaking out. Hopefully there will be more folks like you that have enough intellect to make up their own minds and are willing to share it with the community.
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o7
Sadly , your rant is not just a rant. its true. since i started this account eUS Government has not been forthcoming, even when I was in congress I was "keept in the dark". noone wanted to "share info" on anything. but post something on the forum, with your opinion and you get "assaulted" o.O
been that way since always
but, nevertheless, the "public" needs some info. government is giving none. sure there is DoE and stuff like that , but if I were new Id be even more lost in this game then I am now, and trust me, Im lost as shit.
in any case, good "rant" , sorry for your leg, hope it heals up nicely and fast o7
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"but post something on the forum, with your opinion and you get "assaulted"
You're with them or you're against them, there is nothing in between.
Learned that the hard way
Thank you, for taking the time to publish this.
Thanks, TimbusReven, for doing the investigative work.
Hey thanks for talking. Sorry it took so long but I had some fun with an on the job accident
All i read is - bla, bla, bla CoT is too weak. Boohoo, hoo, CoT doesn't support USA. I understand that you are used to be away from direct conflicts and only play as semi-neutral damage donors of some EDEN countries. But it's time to clear the ego of your eyes and look around the e-world map. Were are CoT countries you seek for support? Wiped out. My e-country is wiped out, and if you realy want to know what we and CoT are doing in this case. We are in some free region of allied country and fight in CoT priorities. No murmur, no boohoo. I'am sorry eUSA that you are not the only CoT country with damage disadvantage, that need help. But at least you have free regions. And when is the last time you help some other CoT country? And i am sorry that we are all in the weaker alliance at the moment and there is so much damage imbalance. Seems that you are not used to that. But if you think that some of your former allies are better, go to them. Maybe you have short memory and can't realise how you are used only for swift hits against eSerbia and nothing more. Or go with some other of your former allies, in TWO. Union of the bigs and the servants against no more than triple weaker enemies. CoT is what is used to be from the begining and the founders of the allince are crear proof for this in this times. If USA think as the autor of this article, you are clearly not for CoT. I congrat your acceptance in alliance, even if we knew what is followed next, but now i am not so sure it was worth.
This was more of the fact that not only does our gov not share anything but theres not much known about the alliance. And hey maybe you dont realise this hut this alliance has no damage and wont have a snowballs chance in hell of doing jack. Theres no dmg nadda nothing.
This is coming from an Indonesian? First of all, your eCountry is NOT wiped out. Indonesia still has regions on the map this very moment. Secondly, you fight against countries like Australia who have a VERY low population compared to yours - about 8 times less than yours in fact. Everything you are criticising the USA for is actually exactly what is wrong with Indonesia so STFU!
I have e-indonesian CS, becouse they give me CS as true allies. I am Bulgarian, so you STFU.
Well either way stop complaining about the USA. The country you currently have CS with is doing fine so, once again, STFU. Maybe Bulgaria wouldn't be wiped if it wasn't allied with idiots like Indonesia. 🙂
oh god, that's an old pm lol. but gotta say i'm honored to be mentioned 🙂
this is a political game of chess. if you can't play get out of the way for others to play. If you play at a 6th grade level while we play at a college level, stand up and let others have a turn so you can learn. either that or start learning some strategy.
if you continue to underestimate your population, you can see yourself and your party to be tosses out easily. It's to the point where people are probly looking at the takeover parties for help just to get rid of this incompetence. maybe when that happens the real Einsteins will wake up and go "well i guess we messed up, we better do something different now"
Since I joined in 2009 the American government has taken the 'No Comment', or the 'Top Secret' info; and at it's worse the 'the Boogie Man' unpatriotic traitor did it trollism to heights undreamed of just 3 years ago....
Politics as usual....
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
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Makes sense thanks for your response
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