The ePolish Peace
SaraDroz
So ePoland want a 'white peace' huh?
We at the nCPF were the FIRST Party in eCanada to call for our NE with ePoland (see: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/let-s-ne-epoland-1908784/1/20) so it is fitting that that we should comment on this 'peace proposal'.
Certainly the war has gone better than many expected. While nobody could forsee the problems with Ones bot-net cheat programme, which has certainly helped us, there was in fact always good reason to expect a favourable start to the campaign; the basic principle of over extension. Basicly the larger any Empire gets (even in real life) the more enemies it makes and the more people it has to keep in subjection. In real life Empires hire native troops for local garrisoning (retrain the Iraqi and Afghan armies in modern terms of the Turkish Janissary programme for the Ottomans); they 'convert' the locals to their system (as with Gaul in the Roman Empire) or alternatively the Empire itself 'goes native' (ie.The Normans in England or the English in the U.S).
In eRepublik these things cannot happen. An eCanadian, even if he has no country left and temporarily moves to an allied country, remains eCanadian and remains an enemy to the country who occupies eCanada, he/she is NOT about to be hired for the local garrison. Nor can, for example ePoland, 'go native'. Thus the larger an erep Empire becomes the more difficult it becomes to hold. In this regard it was noticeable ePoland and their One allies, while invading eUSA did NOT attack eCanada; perhaps they knew this would be an enemy too many... Such was their fear and our hope and so it has since proved.
While an erep Empire is weakest when it reaches its 'critical overstretch limit' the converse becomes true as it shrinks. ePoland still has nearly 16,000 citizens (although there appears to be some internal divisions), compared to eUSA + eCanada totaling about 10,000. Therefore the dream of marching on Warsaw is essentialy unrealistic. Even with eFrance and eGermany (about 5000 citizens combined) ePoland still outnumber us and once in Europe eSerbia and eSpain must be added to the equation. The REAL question that has to be answered when considering this peace proposal is: How much further overstretched are they?
For myself I regard this peace proposal as overly generous to ePoland and I will explain why:
1. It is now clear to them and us that they have reached 'critical overstrech'. Why then should they have a 'white peace'? How much gold would they spend defending their remaining regions in eUSA? Let them at least PAY for a peace they NEED! Why would we let them escape with this money when it is ours to make them waste?
2. Consider the eFrance/ePoland Peace Treaty: Section 3 states that ePoland will hold 11 regions "Poitou Charentes, Limousin, Auvergne, Rhone Alps, Brittany, Pays de Loire, Loire Valley,
Burgundy, Franche-comte, Champagne Ardenne, Lorraine, and Alsace. However Section 5 states: "If Poland loose control over one of regions from point 3: - France will NE Poland as soon as it is possible." In order to obtain 3000 more allies we have only to land in Brittany screaming 'Sacre bleu' and 'Liberte' etc.This adds to the 'over-stretch' they are already experiencing and decreases the limits of their realistic holdings.
The eCanadian President, Addy Lawrence, writes that "USA, like a good bro, wouldn't enter into a peace deal with Poland without consulting with Canada." Why then should not eFrance be included in such a peace? I suspect this is precisely what ePoland fears and therefore we should insist on it! They know we have only to take Brittany and they face another front. Since they know this let them liberate also ALL the eFrench coast, which alone guarantees our future security from them.
A Reasonable Peace
ePoland and eSerbia will leave ALL North American regions and the eFrench regions of Brittany, Pays de la Loire, Poitou Charentes, Loire Valley and Limousin. They shall war indemnities to eUSA of 5000 gold and to eFrance of 5000 gold.
They shall sign NAPs with eFrance, eCanada and eUSA to last 40 days and pay eCanada 5000 gold to be forfeited should they break their NAPs.
Even then we'd probably face a war with eSlovenia and the same soldiers under a different flag. The French coast is the future security of N.America AND MUST be included in ANY peace. They know this and know that to hold it and face no war with eFrance is a good deal for them. Under the present terms they will be back in 30 days and this we must try to stop.
I remember some time ago when ePoland (as an Eden member) occupied most of eFrance (who were seriously considering becoming neutral) ePoland wanted 10,000 gold to liberate Paris! (I was nearly sacked as MoFa for calling the ePolish MoFa 'a dam idiot' or similar).
Only a fool tries to hold what he cannot keep; they have realised this. On the other a fool does NOT take what he knows he can (in war at least). We should KNOW that their eFrench holdings are what they fear for; without them they cannot so easily invade N.America again and may face another front if we land in France.
One other consideration should be considere
😛Can our other allies so easily accept peace? Suppose ePoland simply reverses and attacks eRussia and eChina? In 30 days they could be ready to attack Alaska again only this time from the East. Would we MPP all our other allies to prevent them suffering the fate of eFrance and eGermany?
The current Peace Proposal is, in my opinion, FAR too lenient and I urge ALL Congressmen in eUSA and eCanada to vote no.
Comments
good analysis. here's a chance to make france the true ally it should be to ecanada
The current Peace Proposal is, in my opinion, FAR too lenient and I urge ALL Congressmen in eUSA and eCanada to vote no. x2
fuck peace,give war a chance
~hyuu~
i dont see any mentioning of Netherlands or Germany in this peace threaty, so it should not be considered 😃
no peace
"peace? - no peace?" - The Indenpendance Day
Let's make WAR, NOT love!
fuck peace,give war a chance x2
Signing peace in the moment when the enemy is literally on its knees and ready to fall is logically very stupid move...do I need to say any other reason?!
No peace ! At arms o/
give war a chance
ONE HAVE TO PAY ! NO PEACE ! WE SHOULD CRUSH THEM NOW !
what peace? we play sim city, or something game for little girls?
nice analasis
o7
fuck peace,give war a chance x3
i agree with terms
peace is good to inprove economical situation in mentioned countries
If we are not at war what is the point?
The only thing I hate is the cheaters and bots.
wut wut in the b0t
give war a chance
don't fu*k peace, fu*k poland in war!!
kick some polish, screw the peace.
Come for us you lil' bastards XDDD no mercy, no parlay. War until the dead
fuck peace,give war a chance x4
... F*CK PEACE !!! GIVE WAR A CHANCE !!! ...
Cohones 😃
fuck peace,give war a chance x5
fuck peace,give war a chance x6
Give piss a chance! xD
o7
This times a million!
make poland look like mexico, conquered
very good analysis, brings completetly new light to whole situation. makes you think!
v + s
"give war a chance"
are you listening Addy????
Great article.
Am I listening? Heck, I'm an advocate of war. The trick is to find "good reasons" to be at war and this is the most relevant and meaningful war Canada has waged, and it appeals to many of our allies for the same reasons.
Poland and ONE have been eRep bullies and its payback time.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/they-said-it-couldn-039-t-be-done-1921720/1/20
It's all about food fights. And Poland has those. You can spend money to kick them out of N America; but you will never spend enought to oust them from France or Germany. They Are POLISH!
Well said...I could not agree more!
Addy, I was making a reference to the Vietnam war "are you listening Nixon???" not that you really need to listen.
Decent article, but these sounds more like nnCPF, onCPF or noCPF ideas rather than nCPF.
Maybe it's time to branch off again.
We should feel obligated to reject this peace treaty, and further the goals of eCanada and and her allies, such as eFrance, and eUSA. We should reject all such offerings until the lands of our allies are fully liberated, and ePoland has been forced back into it's own borders. This is not an act just for eCanada, it is commitment to our allies around the globe. We must take a stand, and show them the loyalty they have earned through our alliance, one day, it may be us who rely on them for the support.
From a vantage point across the ocean, it's great to see eCanadians largely enthusiastic about continuing a war which has ONE scrambling to regroup. As previous posters have noted, you'll never beat Poland on its own soil, but Canada has wisely recognized that isn't the ultimate goal here. Recreating the buffer between the Poland/Serbia bloc and Canada/USA, while draining precious resources from ONE's European efforts, is an excellent way to take it to the longtime bullies of the eWorld (and immensely satisfying to watch).
Way to go, Canada. You guys rule.
This little piece is interesting indeed. Very clever, Canada.
Nut up or shuttup
You never let up on a bully just because you knocked him down once.
Allies should not be content with just taking back a few scraps of territory.
It's time to inflict Max Pain...Allies need to keep on keeping on.
Besides, this is a war game...not a can't we all just get along game 🙂
Unfortunately eUSA and eCanada are destined to be a drain/buffer countries for eCro and eBul progress.
Po-Land
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/run-teletubbies-run--1922916/1/20
at least you dont want "left the game and give us poland"
good article to see the what ""one" is not..
Here's a question i would ask you Canadians:
When you capture the French regions, will you liberate or hold the land??? I'm just curious.