eUNL Presidency : ThomasRed speak to the nation..
Azor Ahai Reborn
eUNL Presidency : ThomasRed speak to the nation...
Dear citizens of the United Netherlands,
It have been serveral days i didn't wrote an article or posted comments as President of the United Netherlands...
It have been a very difficult period for me, because you were the ones who voted for me in a beautiful election last month, and i wasn't able to do my job at 100%.
A lot of things have happened during these days, some good things, as the birth of new political parties, but also a lot of bad things.
"While the cat's away, the mice will play" : I'm the only one responsible of this situation but i want to make some statements on differents points.
My unavailability
Some eRepublik friends get the reason of my unavaibility and i won't explain you the details of it : it's personnal things. I lost the possibility of having a internet connection daily and it have become a lot more difficult for me to access to eRepublik. I used the term "unavailability", and not the one "inactivity" that many used. The difference is that i didn't stopped to eat/train/fight/read articles on eRep, i managed to have a internet spot every day to get the last news. Some citizens asked me to wrote an article, or to post comments, to explain my situation. I didn't do it, because the only
thing i was able to say was : "hello, i'm here, bye" and i wasn't able to react on the numerous subjects and with such an article, people would have expected more reactions from the President. But in the same way, i don't know if it was wise, because some people used the fact i was on erep each day but didn't posted to attacked me. One day, after i read a lot of articles about the political crisis, i posted a shout, a citation, because i didnt have the time to write more. But it have also been used against me, the fact i posted a shout, but didn't react.
I know and I understand that my unavailability have not helped our country, but maybe it allowed you, my fellow citizens, to see the other face of some guys from our eUNL establishment.It's sad to say that.
What does i mean by that ?
Kixtart, our forum admin, have choose me as his main target during these last days. On my "inactivity", he tried to explain that i was volontary inactive on erep because, after having checked several times a day my log connections on a football forum website, he noticed that i had the time to surf on other website than eRepublik (does he noticed too i didn't posted there too?). I'm sorry i didn't use all my internet connection time availability for eRepublik, and i'm sorry i also visited other website. But i've been affraid to see that i was under close monitoring on some personal activities which have no links with eRepublik.
The same guy had also all my log information on eRepublik (worked daily), on eNetherlands (as admin), on Peace GC forum (as admin too), on the forum website (as ... ?). Wasn't a good point for me that i also took the time for visiting the Peace GC forum ? I didn't let my country alone, but paradoxically the fact i connected everyday proved for him my inactivity !
So Kixtart decided that the good thing to do to help me to stay informed about the situation of our country was to "ask" the government to removed my access to the congress private section and to the government private section on the eNetherlands.nl forum... Without any message, suddenly, i wasn't able anymore to access these privates sections ! He made a request about it on the goverment private section, and only Frerk answered. So do i have to believe that this decision have been taken by 2 members, including one of our admin ? And what about the Congress is for ? Does the Congress is only for voting yes on donations for state companies ? CongressMembers, i invited you to don't accept this situation ! The highest power of our country is you, you're are the representatives of our nation !
In the last days, some people talked about a Belgian Party organised Political Take Over on the GVD, because some members of the BP tried to make a political electro shock, but in a way i canno't accept as President. I agree our country have been the victim of a PTO, but not from a a Political Take Over on a party, but from a Presidency Take Over !
A Presidency Take Over ? The forum admin who deleted my usergroups access on netherlands.nl without the agreement of the United Netherlands Congress is also the candidate who finished second in the last Presidential election, after a hard mano a mano election... Is it the random ? I had to asked the question...
I've read on the forum today that the fact that the situation we had, with our two forum admins active in politics and in the same party, wasn't a good thing. I'm glad to see that i was not the only one to think that too, as I already asked questions about this situation two months ago. One of the answer was that i have been choosed to be a global moderator. This was a first step...
It means that i was already considered as someone you can trust in our nation. And i do believe i can still be trust, as i have also been chosed to be a member of the eUNL Council of Elders. I also think, that with my previous achievements for our country, i had the right to expect more respect from some political people. When Frerk write an article and that a comment tell me i have to heard this voice because of the 148 votes the article had, and that it is the voice of the eUNL citizens, it make me a bit laugh. Irc votes, okay... But i'm now a quite experienced player, and i think i understand now very well how it works in erepublik. It's not with irc vote that i have been elected three times in a row as President, and presented in a eUNL article as a member of the Top 5 most famous members of our country.
I have been also a bit disapointed by Frerk, but now i have to say i don't expect a lot from him. I thank him for all he done for our country, and the time he gave to try to make our country better. But i think that Frerk have lost some of his political credibility during the last three months. I accept his lessons, and i will take car of them, but i don't forget that Frerk was the President of Iron&Wine during the month this party begun to fall, that he had to dismissed from Home Affaires Ministery after having playing with citizens votes, that he left I&W for LSD, with the explanation it made already a long time that he tought to change of party because he didn't fit anymore in I&W (and that on the month before he left I&W he was a I&W presidential candidate...
😒), that he left LSD to go back to I&W again, and without explanation... Frerk also decided to changed the passes from his Defense organisations to prevent Sliverver to stole them. Something which have been accepted by the government, but i didn't received the new passes, and in the same time i lost the access to all the orgs passes. The only ones who had all the passes were me as President and Cocoamok as future Council of Elders members and to not let me alone with the passes for more democraty. Till today, i still don't know who changed all the passes, who had the passes, and i didn't received the new ones. It seems i had to asked them, maybe because i'm only President...
I have the feeling that some guys put me sticks in the wheels...
Did I deserve all this mistrust against me ? Did my unavailability during some days, after being very active for more than 140 days in a row, was an opportunity for some to discredit me ?
It's maybe hard words, but the way the General Kixtart and his lieutenant Frerk processed in the last days make me think about a putsch, like we had in RL Latin America, with a totalitarian dictator...
I said dictator, i said putsch, it make me think about something that happened during my unavailability, and which is my worst nightmare under my Presidence. I want to speak about the darkest days our country lived, these darkest days where our national army have been send in our streets in our cities against our citizens... I said it again, but i don't accept the previous PTO organised by some old BP members to make an electro shock, but does the reaction was the good one ? Our Minister of Defense have also asked the help of the ATO Troops of PEACE GC ??!! For some citizens trying something that is not forbidden by the law ? Or maybe these members weren't considered as eUNL citizens, but as strangers ?
Maybe some are not considered like true eUNL citizens, because i also read that Nicoe was a danger and have not to be considered as a GVD member if he is elected, to allow the GVD president to have a extra seat in congress... But the same situation with Bruno Goethals, the old and experienced GVD member who are on the BP list have not the same read for the one who agreed on the first point with Nicoe. There is laws, dir sirs, and we canno't make or transform, or understand the law in the way we want for some case and in a other way for others cases. That is democracy.
I was also very sad to see that some experienced citizens made all they can do to not allow us to change the name of our country. With some rules created by a minister, with some falses statements, and with not considering the fact that the majority of the congress were in favour of the change. But i hope it's was just a false start, and that together we will be able to strenghten our union more than ever, with justice, democraty, solidarity and egality !
I will finished with the renewall of the Hungarian MPP. Frerk told me i didnt follow the discussions on goverment (how can i do, he voted yes to remove me my access ?) and that i used the gold donated for a MPP with Serbia (even if some ministers don't remember we wanted to have a MPP with Serbia...). The fact is yesterday was the last day of our MPP with Hungary, that no MPP were proposed at this time, that Hungary asked me to renew our MPP, and that i was very happy to do it, to show our commitment once again into the strong friendship we have with Hungary since months ! it wasn't a misstrust against Serbia or against the Minister of Defense, but i took an action. I've learned too that it was planned to renew our MPP with Hungary (and it already planned for the next month, as it's the first MPP we renewed each month) so i don't see a real problem. You can make one to accused me of bad communications, but as my communications facilities have been removed by the one who ask me more communications, it's not a problem.
Finally, I want to thanks all my dearest friends who helped me during the last hard days for me, and to thanks the numerous eUNL citizens who send me some messages ! It have been a real reassurance for me.
You can see that i didn't spoke about the impeachment launched against me, but i want to remind you that during my three presidences, i have always give the highest importance to listenning, debating, respect, and democracy. These four words have not been the one with the most success in the last days, and i hope you will remind it when you will have to vote for the congress or for the presidential election. Not that i asked you to vote for me, but i asked you to not vote for the one who didn't act as real democrats and who used the Congress as a puppet...
ThomasRed
Your President of the United Netherlands
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Comments
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Thomas, you didn't even do your job for 5%!
Above all you didn't took the time to send a small message that you had problems, NO-ONE knew that you where inactive. For a president that's more then bad, its terrible!
say what you want, you have been too disrespectful. You should have told us to impeach you from day 1, so we could have a replacement.
@thomas: Did you know before you ran for president again that you would have such a huge unavailability during your mandate?
@John, even if he didn't he should've atleast made a very small post saying he has a problem and will be less active.
@osxy: Ah yes, but if he did, then he shouldn't have run in the first place. If you can't take responsibility, you should not apply for it. But I'll be waiting for his answer 🙂
Speak about what?
Mr president, with due respect. All you're doing is trying to discredit me and Kixtart. Please, don't make the link between me and a totalitarian dictator.
'I didn't do it, because the only
thing i was able to say was : "hello, i'm here, bye"'
It would have a good thing to do that. At least explain us your situation in 2 sentences wouldn't have hurt that much, would it? As a president you should have informed us in such a case, if you had any possibility. I'm very disappointed you did not.
'Something which have been accepted by the government, but i didn't received the new passes, and in the same time i lost the access to all the orgs passes.'
Logically these passes were changed, and as far as I have understood, you could have retrieved them if you just asked. Which you didn't. Though I hope you will receive them now.
'So Kixtart decided that the good thing to do to help me to stay informed about the situation of our country was to "ask" the government to removed my access to the congress private section and to the government private section on the eNetherlands.nl forum...'
On this, I totally agree with you. This shouldn't have been done. I'm not sure if all the blame of this can be laid at Kixtart, since I don't have access to the government parts and didn't see the discussion about it. It's quite undemocratic to ban a president from the government forum.
'I have been also a bit disapointed by Frerk, but now i have to say i don't expect a lot from him.'
I think it's very unprofessional of you to personally attack Frerk speaking to us as a president. Expect for the Ministery of Home Affairs... affair, of what I don't know a lot, you don't seem to have any grounds of attacking him. You just describe his political life. I agree, it's a bit odd, but has that to do anything with this all?
In total, I think it's quite a disappointing article after such a long while. You are trying to shove a lot of blame on others, while in my opinion you should excuse yourself for this inactivity and the lack of explanation to us about it.
Glad to have you back ThomasRED!
I am curious if all that people that voted yesterday on Frerks article will make conmments here 😉
Cocoamok : ask it to all their orgs and on the croatian people xD
Croatians? Are you out of your mind? Did you ever try to pronounce one of their names? I have to vomit if I do that 😐
"Thomas, you didn't even do your job for 5%!"
I think thomas did, and do, a good job. Maybe you forgot the other two periods when he was president?
But its sad that he had unavailability now.
Also, i agree that a small message was needed. Just typing the small words: 'hello, i'm here, bye,' is the same as: 'I have a huge unavailability' Maybe it cost you one more second to type that.
Our maybe just didnt read some news, but take that time for communication.
Thats was the biggest problem, non communication.
About the removal from the forum i dont agree. I think the forum admin made a mistake by doing that without asking the congres. He can't use his power for that kind of things. They want democracy, but remove our president without asking the congres(citizens)
sorry i make a mistake 🙁 ... it's serbian 😉
I suppose that no eUNL governement'org vote for your artikel 😉
i agree with ArtemIvanov 🙂
Ok cocoamok 😛
I voted Frerk's one and I voted this one.
Because I think there has to be crap solved from both sides.
But till everything is solved I think it's
"We didn't start the flamewars"
(btw if some rscl supporters come to AZ Alkmaar the 29th I life in "Heiloo" next to Alkmaar 😃 )
About attacking Frerk i dont agree.
I think you can do that inside the government, IRC or pm's to eachother. Why do you want to do that in public?
You are talking to your citizens, and attack another minister. That's not the way how we should work.
@Artem, I'm only talking about this month, the other months where fine but this is inexcusable for a president!
agreed with osxy.
"Mr president, with due respect. All you're doing is trying to discredit me and Kixtart. Please, don't make the link between me and a totalitarian dictator."
+1 Frerk.
I agree with artem. It is ashame that your first act when returning is attacking people instead of doing something constructive like getting a MPP with the right countries going.
You go inactive without any message about it (despite numerous messages to you asking about it), and when you do post again you only have critics on others?
I can only agree with Osxy: For a president that's more then bad, its terrible!
You did good work in your first 2 mandates. Nobody's going to deny that, and if they do, it's a foolish choice to do so.
But last mandate you were "unavailable". The first thing you do is attack me and Kixtart. We're not the only ones being attacked, on the forums I&W is being attacked as a party, by you, too. I don't like this.
That you're president doesn't mean you'll be treated in a special way, and you therefore have no right to attack me in this article in this way. I realy lost my faith in you.
who's the next I&W to critic it ? ... maybe creveroeland ?
CreveRoeland is not I&W, get your facts straight 🙂
@John de Lange : I thought this sentence would have been understood as a joke by everyone but hey I see you have not understood the joke. So for you you can considere it for a "private" joke " ... next time I will not forget to add a smiley to the end
@Vanouze
What does this have to do with a single party? I've heard the voices from I&W, GVD, GLD, and Artem from LSD with a rather mixed opinion.
@vanouze: I understood perfectly well, hence the smiley at the end of my comment.
"Something which have been accepted by the government, but i didn't received the new passes, and in the same time i lost the access to all the orgs passes. The only ones who had all the passes were me as President and Cocoamok as future Council of Elders members and to not let me alone with the passes for more democraty. Till today, i still don't know who changed all the passes, who had the passes, and i didn't received the new ones. It seems i had to asked them, maybe because i'm only President... "
All passes have been changed after Slivever left the government. You can read his final message here:
http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2705&start=10" target="_blank">http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php[..]t=10
At this time you were not there due to as we heard later RL problems. No one was send a forumpm with the new passes as we thought we would see them on IRC or speak to them ingame. Normally we would have discussed it first with the president, but this decision was made to prevent any stealing or what so ever.
You could have send us a pm or come to the IRC Channel and we would have explained it. The government did their best last week to get things solved and they worked hard for it.
Instead of making an article right away, why not first ask the government wat has happened?
And about the passes, i asked murena to ask you for the pass of raws, but you didn't have it according to murena.
I think last week you had a bad week rl and you made this article in a bad temper.
"What does this have to do with a single party? I've heard the voices from I&W, GVD, GLD, and Artem from LSD with a rather mixed opinion."
Great question Matt!
overthrow the president!
free belgium!
Dear Thomas,
If you are as noble as you claim to be then you would have stepped down as president the moment you knew your inactivity would become too high. If you had the time "daily" to log on and do your three clicks you could have told the goverment that you simply couldnt commit the time to be the president anymore and would love to re-fill the role at a later point in time.
Whether the reason for your inactivtiy is personal or not, I really dont care. This is not "personal" from my side, I simply want my country run. You get your lovely president badge + prestige for running the country, not for being unavailable.
I agree that removing your forum access etc. should not have happend, but neither had your inactivity. You both acted wrong, and its a disgracefull for BOTH sides in this argument.
What I find most astonishing is the fact that now you return and decide to open the attack on your ministers? What the hell? Your supposed to lead this country, LEAD IT with that little time you have online. We have enough flamers and trolls around nowdays after the PTO attempt by Bicky and his friends. We DONT need more namecalling and unrest then we have.
You'll have a new congress next week, we'll have a new presidential vote in 3 weeks? Can we PLEASE start governing this country again instead of these constant cowboy tactics at showing "who's best"
With all due respect, leaving all of a sudden without any notification and then attacking the few government officials who tried to keep the nation together while you were having your 'IRL problems' is just absurd.
I can't see how any kind of IRL problem disables you to post a quick message that you are forced to be inactive, especially when you apparantly still have the time to do your daily work/train/read articles routine.
As ThomasRED sai😛 "But i hope it's was just a false start, and that together we will be able to strenghten our union more than ever, with justice, democraty, solidarity and egality !"
This article is not only an attack on the ones that attacked him too. Get over it and work for the nation is something for all, isn't it?
@Cocoamok: Are you being ironic?
simple reaction after the article he posted, first kick everyone in the mud, and than 2 lines in a large article that he hopes it's a false start.
Yeah right...
Voted !!
Viva el presidente !!
Good job !
Cocoamok: I hope you just only read that because it's bold and left the rest for a tl;dr, or have a severe lack of sense of humor.
Quote from a reaction of our president on our national forum:
"Last thing, for everybody, i will be abble to connect daily more than 15 minutes in the middle of the next week..."
I think its wise to put this in your article also. Because you cant do everything in just 15 minutes when you are a president.
Maybe you should say in your article whats the plan to lead this country in 15 minutes a day?
@PerfectMelody: No, I am not ironic.
@Deviltje and Frerk: I missed nothing, read your own articles from the last weeks and your comments you made on other places. Maybe you will understand why ThomasRED is attacking too. Maybe not that nice or useful, but for me understandable. Reaching out to work together or making fights. All in the game and each own choice.
When did I attack? Seems you read my article the good way too.
"In total, I think it's quite a disappointing article after such a long while. You are trying to shove a lot of blame on others, while in my opinion you should excuse yourself for this inactivity and the lack of explanation to us about it."
Well spoken...
@cocoamok, Let's just keep it ontopic. This isn't about you or me it's about ThomasRed.
furthermore i didn't attack thomasRed in anyway, my only fault is probably that i am a minister and together with other ministers we tried to run the country as good as possible. This without a president, Prime Minister, minister of Raws, minister of R&C and a sick minister of Home Affairs.
Our president can give a lot of comments on the government, some true, some not true, but the fact stays he wasn't there.
good to hear somthing from our president,
but when do we hear your toughts about the troubles we had in time u wasn't there?
u only defend yourself in this article...
and it did made me laugh a litle when i saw the reaction here from the people that was planning the take over of GVD.
they are all voting and saying u did a good job.
guess they were happy u wasn't there (reacting) to pull them back those days 😛
hope your personal things (problems?) will be better soon. 😉
Cocoamok is doing every thing she can to win effort from BP.
She still hopes for some places in the new cabinet...
Hey Mister Prez, it's not necessary to write novels NOW. Just a few lines the past days would have been fine...
(Otherwise, I think fat Chavez's picture is quite offensive, in addition to have nothing to do with eUNL. People are suffering under his dictatorship IRL. I hope this is just a joke.)
I read through a forumtopic on enetherlands.nl about religion in eUNL, about the question what kind of God eUNL would need. One could (metaphorically speaking) say that the availability of an internet connection is God, and free time to spend is his prophet.
I do believe in the freedom to answer to those, and if the accusation about the tracking of ThomasRed's internet behaviour is true I would be slightly appalled by that.
That said, the right thing to do has not been done by ThomasRed. That is as some have already stated, to lay down the task officially when it became clear he was not going to be able to answer to his religion like most of the citizens of eUNL would expect him to do. That ofcourse would have been the responsible thing to do, and he should have recognized the fact that it would have been in the best interest of the country to do so.
I grew up in a religious family and one day decided it wasn't my thing. Let me tell you ThomasRed, that it saves you from alot of negative attention if you state your thoughts on the whole subject. Just dragging along with it will not get you there..
To get out of the stupid metaphor, I'll just say that in many businesses it is not acceptable to slack around, which means your only options are to do the job with full commitment or to not to the job at all. The higher the level of responsibility, the more that rule applies.
Just my 2 cents..
lol. unlike frerks artcle is this a tad... useless? like candy after a hit to the head.
I for one dont welcome our belgian overlords
You use lots of words for a lame excuse. You should have allowed yourself to be impeached as soon as you figured out you couldnt maintain your activity, everything else is a non-issue here.
@El Trail, what a useless comment!
More than enough has been said. I agree we need a new president. We cant have a president with no proper internet connection.
And I think the actions of other congresman, were made for the best of all of us.
With all due respect, ThomasRed, but you haven't been a president in the last few weeks - and you aren't one now. Throwing insults and accusations to persons isn't the way to save our Union. And that is what we need a president for right now.
About the footballforum, do you think it is weird that this triggers some curiosity? http://www.erepublik.com/en/Netherlands/law/14218" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/Netherlands/[..]14218
A nice "joke" from your fellow members.