[MDP] Controversy Versus Fact
Xander Kross
I remember when I started out in this game. Addy Lawrence was the outgoing CP, soon replaced by Oinyo. I began my media career yelling at Oinyo for being a mollycoddling coward who would rather bend over for his enemies than offer his people leadership.
Well, times change. Oinyo is now the one doing the angry yelling because he doesn't like the way the government is run. But his objections - unlike mine, when I knew almost nothing about eCanadian politics and still managed to hit that nail right on the head - are not based in the reality shared by the rest of us. And his methods of protest are dangerous, destructive and potentially treasonous. I really think he's gone off the rails.
Let's start with the obvious: Oinyo's knickers are in a twist because Rylde ran for Party President of the Canadian Progressive Front, and won the election. This is, according to Oinyo, an obvious PTO and a clear sign that the MDP has gone too far this time, and all of eCanada needs to rise up and strike down these terrible oppressors.
The real problem here is that Oinyo is not basing these claims on any sort of facts. This is a personal vendetta against Rylde and certain other individuals in the MDP, and has nothing to do with "PTO's" and "The Evil Dictatorship Claiming Our Country."
You want proof? Look at McVicker's campaign last month, and compare it to Rylde's campaign this month. And for the sake of objectivity, let's compare them both to klop123's campaign, because he was the opponent both times:
1 - Yes, Rylde had been in CPF all during McVicker's tenure as PP. Not in MDP.
2 - All candidates brought in "outside" votes. Clan Wolf voted for klop (whether he asked them to or not - klop ran two gentlemanly campaigns).
I have no definitive proof that McVicker bought votes, but it would be consistent with his character and campaign style. I'll leave the speculation up to the readers on that one.
Considering how similar Rylde's campaign was to McVicker's, why, then, is Oinyo so bent out of shape this time? McVicker was apparently "clean" enough that Oinyo felt he could support his bid for Country President. Hell, Oinyo was so confident in McVicker's integrity that he dropped out of the race and ran as McVicker's VP.
Why is it different when Rylde does the same thing?
Oh, because it was a MDP conspiracy? Is that the issue? Because I can assure you, it was not. It is not my intention to throw Rylde under the bus here, but Rylde does what Rylde does. I made a few "troll" posts supporting his run, thinking at the time that klop would win. Hell, I would have voted for klop - he's a good person and would take the job seriously, even if he is an unrepentant hippie, and I enjoy that kind of political competition. But then he didn't win.
Rylde got 30 votes, and that was enough to win the election. That's... quite sad, really. CPF is supposed to be the big-time party, more members than the next two parties combined. 30 votes out of 74 was all it took. Rylde won by 3.
Oinyo's response to this has been... well, a little extreme. While klop has been a gentleman about the whole thing, Oinyo has been throwing an international hissy fit about it.
First, he tells the Foreign Affairs team - of which he had been a part - that he is quitting his post. He then threatens to contact every CP and MoFA in the world and tell them just how terrible eCanada is, and encourage them to avoid any "serious relations" with us until his demands are met. In other words, if Rylde doesn't immediately step down from his position, Oinyo is going to dox us to every world leader.
In the same article, he shares his hopes that some foreign nation will invade and wipe us out so that we can be taught a valuable lesson.
Hours later, when it is clear that he is getting no support for his terrorist rhetoric, he tells the FA team that if things don't speed up, he's going to escalate his efforts to undermine the country's international reputation:
"Another very large article is going out tomorrow. {. . .} The article will reflect this along with other recent events that took place last night, today and what will happen tomorrow morning.
"My mail list is going to grow to include 5 more players from each country.
"I hope you do something positive today to allow me to write something decent on my article. Because it is shaping up to be piss poor at this pace."
This ominous post puts me in mind of a gunman with hostages, negotiating with the police. During the first call, he says, "If we don't get a chopper on the roof, seventeen million dollars in unmarked twenties, and sandwiches from Hooters, I kill one person every hour." An hour later, when he still doesn't have his sandwiches, he calls back and says "Alright, you pigs aren't taking us seriously, so now we're going to kill FIVE people every hour until our demands are met!"
That "very large article," by the way, seems to be about how CPs - who don't give half a damn about this situation - are talking to one another about the weather in his defamation thread.
He has also pinned a great deal of responsibility on me, personally, and has apparently inflated my importance and influence to that of some kind of megalomaniacal Bond villain:
"I am tired of you keeping us down Xander.
"You probably should play it safe and run from me. My posts will not stop until things improve.
"Also.. you are the domestic terrorist?"
A week ago, he was calling me a puppet-drone who shouldn't be speaking for my party. The day before the election, he assured me that no one ever takes me seriously in any way. The day after the election, I'm a political mastermind bent on destruction and oppression.
I'm not sure how Oinyo can reconcile calling us "domestic terrorists" when he is clearly threatening to harm our international standing, and openly encouraging an invasion, all because of his beef with a few certain individuals within the country.
Oinyo, I am saying this to you directly, and as plainly as possible: You are presenting a threat to the country. You are threatening to undo the hard work of the people you claim to be defending and "liberating." You are threatening to make a mockery of the country you claim to love. Please take a moment to calm down, review your priorities and make the needed adjustments, or there will be unpleasant consequences.
This is not a threat. I do not make threats - I take steps to end them.
Ever Foward!
Comments
First For Hard Truth!
Onion is losing control of himself.
Onions ranting has become a bit crazy.
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Wasn't Rylde in Clan Wolf like 5 days ago? 30>5
He skipped back and forth a few times. 30 days in total, perhaps not consecutively. McVicker jumped around a lot, too.
Nothing wrong with Rylde doing what he did. He is quite cunning and its the fault of CPF and others for not making a stand themselves.
Although Rylde is clearly securing a CP nomination, if not for himself then for someone else. It's a good plan.
When Rylde wants to run for CP, the MDP puts his name on the bill. He didn't need to comandeer another party to secure a nomination.
If I were to hazard a guess as to his motivations, I would say he did it to challenge klop and make him fight for his party. Unfortunately, McVicker had already broken the party's morale, and there wasn't enough left to give klop the support he needed.
The party failed its leadership.
That's a guess only. I don't pretend to speak for him.
Recently hear😛
Hey Klop.... you are a really lousy Party President so I need to eviscerate the Party. That will help you (you are welcome), help the party and help our team. Just like when Wally blew up MOO or Rolo took over the UN or ...etc. Hey Moose guys, I want to help you fellas too by destroying what you have been cultivating for years. It will all be good, especially if you help me perpetuate it. Don't pay no never mind to Alias with his "long term" view, this is a good thing, good for me anyway. Now, ... let's blame the victim.
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Xander: Oinyo's reaction may be extreme. He isn't a calm Moose. He is following a different model and example by "threatening to undo the hard work of the people you claim to be defending and "liberating", except that Rylde has already followed through.
Who called klop a lousy PP? I'll murderize 'em.
Klop is a good guy and would make a fine leader, but his party is clearly broken, as evidenced by two successive "takeovers" (legitimate campaigns, really, but let's not split hairs) with next to no resistance.
I'm not blaming the victim. In my eyes, if anyone can be said to be a "victim," it's klop, and I feel bad that his party has let him down like this. Twice.
Oinyo's reaction is to try to turn a fixable internal matter into a full-blown international incident. His "different model" is to contact every world leader that will bother listening to him (because many will not) and to tell them, "listen, eCanada is bad so don't do anything with them until I flex my ass cheeks and fix everything, because that's something I can totally do."
Explain how that's good for us in the long term. He claims to be representing the people of eCanada and working for the greater good, but he clearly is not doing either of those things. He is actively seeking to make a "bad" situation worse.
And, again, why were none of you meatbags raising this big of a stink about it when McVicker did the EXACT SAME THING last month? You people watched him do exactly this, and then supported him for CP. The only difference is the person. The deeds are identical. But no one was threatening to "expose" McVicker to world leaders, or inviting a wipe to clean the slate and teach us naughty fascists a lesson.
Until one of the mewling meatbags can explain how that's not totally hypocritical and doesn't represent a clear double-standard, they can shut their pieholes about it.
Pesky little fact: Klop asked DMV to run. Klop didn't ask Rylde to run.
Please proceed with your story weaving. I'm actually enjoying it.
I didn't support DMV and publicly endorsed IBB.
I haven't supported Oinyo. In fact I said his reaction might be extreme. I also said he was not being calm. I also said he was following Rylde's example. A poor course of action in both cases.
The victim being blamed is the CFP party. Running against Klop was spun as necessary because the party was not functioning correctly under his watch. A lot of people would interpret that as "you are not a good PP". Of course everyone knows that isn't true. But that is the point. The spin was and is entirely bogus.
Now, if you want to crucify Onyio without trying to justify Rylde, be my guest. Frankly Rylde has been pretty up-front: it was a dirty business. Oinyo has been pretty up front about what he is doing also.
Klop did not ask Rylde to run, but every exchange I saw between them could be classified as "good-natured rivalry." What I saw in cabinet threads between them was generally light-hearted bantering - no anger, no "STAY THE F*K OUT OF MY PARTY," nothing of the sort. Klop can clearly take a ribbing.
Was this campaign potentially ethically questionable? Undoubtedly. It's politics. But if it has engendered bad blood between klop and Rylde, I've yet to see the evidence of it.
So, again: how is this any different from last month? Why was McVicker CP material for doing it, but Rylde is a cackling super-villain wanting to watch the world burn?
I don't wish to put words in klop's mouth - he has wisely decided to distance himself from this overblown, idiotic drama. Maybe you howler-monkeys should be doing the same.
I find it kind of funny how hard people try to defend themselves in the media recently.
Dirty politic is surely going on. *sigh*
Surprisingly rational for an evil mastermind.
I'm buying it. eCanada needs the CPF to get strong or to be exposed as being too weak, old and tired to even run their own party.
Your whitewashing skills have improved. I don't think there is anyone new here that would believe what you have written, but from I can appreciate a piece of art for the sake of the art. Well done.
Well you drink onions look aid so this should be easier to swallow.
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(Damn spell checker) It does appear that eCanada politics has flown off the rails, through the woods and is barreling through fantasy town, but it's one hell of a show.
Onion and his butt buddies throwing a bossy fit in the peanut gallery is far from politics coming off the rails because in the end its business as usual in govt.
Did you honest think you'd ever see the day that you were PP of the CPF? That's not business as usual. If Rolo had done it (which I always thought he would), then maybe a little bit more par for the course.
The PTO/"liberation"/"saving/whatever you want to call it, is significant given their position as the rank one party for years.
Historically the largest party gets to big and eventually gets fat, lazy and complacent. We have a long standing duty to thin the herd of the weak like we have always done.
I sincerely hope something good comes from it.
My becoming president is just that
Not just CP's and MoFA's...
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Wanna buy an onion
He already bought 2 😉
we have many onions in the eUK
I love that the main meat and potatoes of your article is complaining that I supported DMV..
Yeah.. About that 😛
You still havent talked to IBB have you?
Also someone needs to read my newest article.. Some nice Hard Facts for you there... Sucks how screen shots and chat logs do not lie 😛 Hard to argue vs the truth...
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Oh, so IBB staged a coup of a political party and put himself up for CP, too? Or you offered him your support first and he quite wisely told you to go shit in your hat?
Or something your interesting little brain cobbled together out of a series of conflicting delusions?
Fact: you were running for CP. So was McVicker (who had just "PTO'ed" CPF running against klop, telling everyone he was going to be a big-time fascist), so was IBB.
Evidence supports the theory that a deal was brokered between you and McVicker, where you would be given the post of Vice President.
Fact: you went along with the "PTOer" and dropped out of the race.
Keep denying or downlplaying facts, please. It's really, really amusing.
It's obvious just looking at the election returns for the MDP and CPF in the past two months that they have been directing votes to disrupt our elections. That's the basic facts without spin. Everything else can be interpreted in any number of ways by the different groups looking to profit off this.
eh? You're saying CPF can only manage 30 votes in a PP election? That's just sad. I feel badly for Klop and the blue moose but you can't just blame this on outside interference. Someone didn't do enough to muster the CPF vote.
For some reason that I can't comprehend 16 people supported DMV, so there you go
Fair enough. You would know better the activity level in your party. It just looks odd from the outside is all. I wish you luck Auk.
They didn't manage 30 votes. They only managed 27. I think the gist of it is, Rylde killed their party with 30 votes.
dat question mark
Business as usual in eCan, except this time Oinyo's got a serious hard-on for Rylde. Enjoy being the laughing-stock of the eWorld because of Oinyo's actions. These articles will do nothing except reduce eCan's standing in the eyes of the international community even further. You can blame Rylde for the PTO but you have to blame Oinyo for making all of eCan look like a joke.
The joke it is and has been. Dont like it? Stop crying like a wee baby and fix it. Also stop giving me fuel. I am doing nothing except opening dialogue with people in mails in a positive way and posting what any player on the Eplanet can already see.
Instead of trying to cry and shift blam. Man up. grow a pair and work on fixing things..
The only one crying is you Oinyo. The fact that you can't see that shows just how truly deranged you are.
You say that.. And yet.. Your replies are all emotionally driven..
No, they're driven by my desire to help you realize you've gone mental.
All you have to do is wait 12 hours.. then you will have a fresh 3 :/
Fact? Only 12 people voted in the MDP PP election this month.
Where the hell do you think the rest of them voted?
PTO is obvious.
That and well. The proof is in my newest article. I have screen shots of the whole plan going down. Xander and Ryle in bed together planning it all.
lolk
I am gone and you fgts still have nothing better to talk about. I ran for CPF PP with Klop's blessing as we both thought the controversy might give people something to do during the wipe. I had not intended to run for CP until Klop and one other member of the CPF establishment asked me to run.
Your article is so far from the truth it's pathetic.
Yeah. Let's pretend your victory was honest and your intentions pure. Fantasy is fun!