Which Alliance should Ireland join?
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by moomoohead
There is a theory in world alliances that I subscribe too. The world is in equilibrium when there are two world powers which are equal in size. Any other situation will just be working to this equilibrium. The reason this works is if you have more than two alliances, or groups of alliances, the two bigger alliances will attack and divide the smaller alliances instead of going at each other. This is what we have now in the world. CoT and TWO/ACT are now the two big boys in the world. Eden is much smaller, ACT is a part of TWO, and Asgard is a very small. So the two big alliances attack and eat up the smaller ones. This theory says that what will eventually happen is the smaller alliances will break up or align themselves with one of the bigger alliances. EDEN cannot form a sub allegiance with TWO or CoT because it is currently at war with both, and some of its members would prefer different partners to join. What delays this from happening is poor leadership, history, and Friendships countries do not want to break. In the last several months with CoT becoming stronger and stronger it has pushed this eventual outcome. Recent countries to leave EDEN are Portugal, Ireland, Argintina.
So what does this mean for Ireland? I think we will eventually join CoT or maybe Asgard who is aligned with CoT. We voted down joining a few weeks ago but in the next six months we may have to. Countries do what is in their best interest and fortunately or unfortunately we have nothing TWO of CoT wants. Since Iboy has “retired” I do not think we have thought enough strategically as a nation. I wrote this article as an individual, not as a member of the government, to spur open and frank decision on the subject.
Two good articles were written recently about this subject. In the first one listed below, you can see a map of world MPP and the current polar relationships in the world. In the second one, it predicts what the shape of the two world super powers would be.
1. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-tbre-alliances-of-the-eworld-day-1914-2213389/1/20
2. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-might-happen-when-eden-is-no-more-cot-vs-two-2213486/1/20
Another interesting force on alliances could be the cost of MPP. The world economic situation makes it tough for some countries to sign with a whole alliance. Raven recently reported how some CoT countries are struggling with this. I think this will not force the breakup of big alliances, but it could make smaller sub alliances more prevalent. This is what Asgard might turn out to be. The high cost of signing MPP could make being an “independent” country a little harder when aligance countries have a hard time paying to stay in an aligance.
Tell me what you think.
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I'm for staying neutral unless at least 3/4 of our allies join the same alliance, or we can join an alliance that doesn't indicate a future conflict with those allies.
I believe it's only a matter of time. The most ambitious nations in EDEN are the reason its holding on for dear life. When just one of those nations (Croatia, Greece, Colombia) finally leaves, something big will happen in no time. I believe a new third alliance, possibly CUA to start, possibly Greece/Turkey/Iran to start, but regardless the gravity will pull in many neutral nations.
Others believe all of the nations will choose between CoT or TWO, which is an opinion they are entitled to, but I doubt these nations will accept defeat like that. They may view EDEN's end as a lost battle, but joining their enemies would be a lost war.
The most important thing everyone needs to keep in mind now before predicting, is that admin is working on something with alliances. (perhaps adding to the game mechanics) There's no telling how this could effect the Alliance situation.
Voted, great article. It's good to get us discussing this topic once more.
As far as the title is concerned, If I had to choose, I'd go Asgard or try and form a new alliance with Portugal/Argentina/Australia
Currently 2/4 of Ireland's MPP's are Asgard, a trend occuring maybe? 😉
Asgard is allied to EDEN.
I don't think EDEN countries will join CoTWO, it's more likely there will be some new alliance, after some time countries in CoT and TWO will be unhappy, EDEN fill fall apart and newly founded alliance will attract those unhappy ones....just my two cents.
Ireland sitting back and waiting for an alliance to fall apart in the hope that there will be a new one formed that we would be made welcome in is lazy and indecisive. Whatever replaces EDEN(and it could take months and months for it to finally die, it has afterall survived longer than most people have played this game) is still going to be third in the pecking order of alliances.
So is Ireland happy to wait in the wilderness for an indefinite amount of time hoping that EDEN will fall and that a new alliance that we may not even be invited to takes its place as the weakest of the major alliances?
Ireland is dying and time is not a luxury we have. However nothing will change when Ireland is so divided internally so I predict nothing but Ireland wallowing in it's own excrement for the foreseeable future.
If Yddub was here then I'd give the place a chance. But alas we lost our talisman and instead you have someone as simple as the multi using thief Kurgan commenting 500 times a day and still doing nothing for the country.
Good point.
But where to join? CoT? TWO? Asgard?
There are more cons then pros for any of them...
irishbhoy, we hope to make some large strides in making our final decision this month. This is something that we have to choose very wisely as yes I agree with a lot of your points, but a hasty decision just get us wiped.
Gut feeling is that CoT and TWO will turn on each other when EDEN is a corpse. At the moment, that's probably what's keeping the two allied. Three major alliances will always see two of the three partner up to destroy the third, which is what is happening now. Asgard will, I think, grow to be a smaller alliance, not a threat to the major ones and probably with friendly ties to CoT.
The big question for me is what will happen when EDEN finally gives up the ghost? Will they join with one of the other two or will they attempt to re-form? For myself, I'd like to join an Asgard alliance with the smaller European nations attached - Netherlands, France, Germany, etc, plus maybe our antipodean cousins (Oz and/or NZ).
I think we would have to join CoT
EDEN won't want Ireland back
An EDEN successor alliance prolly wont either
Asgard doesnt want Ireland
Ireland has no real money.
Does little damage in global terms
So join CoT while Bulgaria still remembers that time we supported them in HQ
They're not called options when u only have 1 of them
Ireland should have joined CoT when it was fresh.. then you guys would have been considered honourable and brave... now that you consider the alliance it just seems weak to be honest
CoT
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My understanding the problem with joining Asgard is one party is mad about our jaunt across Scandinavia last year. Have there been any attempts to reach out and see if anything can be done about mending that fence?
I'm still working on a grasp of the eglobal politics, but I'm still thinking Asgard is a better fit for us, if we can work that out. If Asgard ends as a satellite of sorts to CoT, then so much the better, and cheaper, for us.
For awhile I too had favoured Asgard. But a few things have become known since then. As well as that party you mention(who probably will not just go away) there is the issue of what the alliance itself sees as it's own future. The alliance leaders have said that they NEVER want to grow into a powerful alliance. That is ok for them sitting there in Scandinavia, but not much fun if we want to be in an alliance that provides some action.
Currently Asgard membership isn't conducive to holding natural regions either
There whole aligance, every region, was wiped last week. They are too small.
So it seems our choices are to join Asgard, which doesn't want us and wont' take us, or to join CoT, which a majority of us voted against, or go neutral which, IMO, really offers no benefits to us?
Asgard members dont want us, we cant rejoin EDEN so it leaves us CoT or TWO.
Even if EDEN collapses and a new alliance is formed it will still be the same as EDEN and they wont regain any of their old members.
We need to kop on nd join CoT or TWO, this neutal crap is never gonna get us new players and those we do somehow manage to get will quit or leave out of boredom.