[Civil War] A Nation of Laws
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I have not spoke publicly about the coup up until now because I have seen no reason to participate in the debate. I am not particularly a fan of democracy, in fact I would have happily supported a Constitutional Dictatorship under different circumstances, but what I do not support is anarchy.
Up until the recent coup eCanada was a stable democracy with a working Constitution. When Rylde and his co-conspirators won the violent overthrow of our government they did so outside the law and expect Congress to still run as if they had not wiped their collective a**es with our Constitution. We are no longer a nation guided by laws and as "Speaker" I do not plan on acting like the rules still apply. I banned Rylde from the Congressional forum and his ban will not be lifted as he decided our Constitution meant nothing. This is the beauty of an Anarchist state, anyone can do whatever is within their power to do.
From here on out I will treat this game and those who are responsible for the coup with the same respect as they have shown for our community and its laws. You have violated the social contract between the government and those you govern, so our meta-laws no longer apply. For all intents and purposes the forum is dead, so the only laws any of us must follow are game mechanics. This means that our nation is no longer whole, but is instead two parties involved in a Civil War.
From this point on those who stand with this Anarchist Penis Potato will be treated as the terrorists they are. Once Democracy is restored, and believe me it will be restored, a new Constitution will be written, new laws will be enacted, and those of you who remain aligned with this government will be permanently treated as the traitors you are. It is my promise to the people of Canada that no quarter will be given to those of you who have decided to act unilaterally and throw away our nation and violate your responsibility to the people you govern.
Those of you currently in Cordis Die and who are currently members of Rylde's Whorehouse have until the beginning of the revolution to pick your side. Make sure it is the right side, because you have my promise that those who remain aligned with Rylde will have no place in the future of the new Canada, you will be exiles and pariahs. Treason is a Capitol Offense, so while we can not execute you we can and will treat you as if we had.
Airstrike
Rylde is planning an AS and I for one can not wait for it as I will be fighting against this corrupt government directly in any battle from here on out. I would like to encourage my fellow Canadians to do the same. It does not matter who we attack, this government's new enemies will be treated as our new allies in all direct battles. The surest way to end this government is to help ensure its military defeat. Let's see if Rylde has the COs and international influence to win battles when he is fighting his own population and our friends in other nations.
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wanna help liberate eUK whilst your at it? That would sure show the canadian government... 😉
If canada is kicked out of UK , France will take his place in the seconde 😉
So i'm not sure you really want it 😃
I would love to help you. If your government wishes to notify me of when you're planning on liberating regions I will be happy to fight along side you to defeat the current regime.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/dear-allies-operation-freedom-2549443/1/20
o7
Good Luck
Hang on... Didn't you try to overthrow the UK government and fail? Thought you'd be cheering for the other side.
When did I fail ? please make your mind up
Vendetta Party PTO of the UK with Serbs - failed
New Era: Multiple failed attempts to PTO everything
UKPP: still trying to help Ajay become CP - currently failing
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Hmmm 😑
o7!
my visas bigger than your visa
Mechanics will rule the day, not money.
The Dictatorship mechanic already did rule the day, sunshine. And look how upset you are about that!
I love the activity generated by this dictatorship. I hope Canada can maintain this same activity post-dictatorship.
Then you're going to hate the "if this fails" backup plan. If you can't win under the rules, change the rules. If you still can't win, don't play.
I have fun playing this game without the politics. That isn't my game. I win battles, get a few medals, and chat with people in my unit or foreign friends I've made. I am sure our definition of "winning" is much different.
We don't need no civil war...
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're all power hungry soldiers in a human grocery store (ain't that fresh).
And I don't need your civil war.
Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before
My hands are Tied!
Billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
for no love of God or human rights
All these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our Civil Wars
First GnR reference in erep ever. Makes the years almost worthwhile
Can't stand the dictatorship module as it destroys half of the game mechanics which give younger players a chance to get involved. There's so much less to do in a dictatorship module UNLESS you're MU is running the govt.
The dictatorship module is a game mechanic so your point is quite ironic.
A player I tremendously respect advocated that mechanics > role play and I completely agree.
What a great recruitment program for you MU though.
This isn't a mechanic over role play issue. It's a mechanic that nullifies another mechanic that is much better, the democratic government with legitimized executive and congress positions.
"When Rylde and his co-conspirators won the violent overthrow of our government they did so outside the law"
link to said law?
"You have violated the social contract between the government and those you govern"
link to said contract?
PS - How'd the last Civil War work our for the side that fought against eCanada?
PPSS - Anyone remember what that was all about anyways?
some guy stole the treasury before my time and got pardoned for it me thinks
it was actually fun. My punishment was a forum ban oh my.
So your plan is to sit on your hands until determination is high enough just fighting against Canada, which is treason, and then do a revolution. Once the required days pass, Rylde will re-take it back, and then you guys all go back to sitting on your hands pouting. Repeat endlessly. Sounds like so much fun, where do I sign up!
You don't have to sign up! They'll do it for you!
I knew it wouldn't be long before our chief drama-whore got out his shit-stick and stirred all the stupid hippie sheep into another self-serving revolt. I find it interesting that there was such "controversy" in an election in which you were one of the primary candidates. How many pockets did you have to line to get your empty-skulled sheeple to spin that into a terrorist conspiracy?
No constitutional laws were broken. There are no laws in the eCanadian constitution regarding takeovers by military coups d'etat. Regardless, you're intent on putting on a shit-show for all of us to watch, and doing your usual song-and-dance of accusing others of treason while openly and flagrantly violating anything you can get away with yourself, and abusing the power of your elected office.
You would rather sell your country to enemies than fight to increase its prosperity. That is the definition of treason. Inciting civil disobedience through fear-tactics and illegal action - that's the definition of terrorism.
If you go around stealing people's cattle, does that make Rylde a cattle-thief? If you light a bunch of orphanages on fire, does that make Rylde a baby-murdering arsonist? If you sell government secrets to foreign agents, will that make Rylde an enemy spy? McVicker logic states that this is so.
This is dumb and self-serving even for you.
The charter establishes Canada as a democracy, maybe try reading it. The fact it lists the Congress as the Legislative branch and the President as the executive branch establishes our democracy.
So why weren't you crying "terrorist" and "traitor" the last time we had a Dictatorship? If it's illegal now, it was illegal then, and you weren't riling up the hippies about it back then. Or was that one of the times when you told all eCanadians to go fk themselves because you didn't get your way about something, and buggered off to eJapan for a while? I forget.
I left for Japan before the dictatorship. It wasn't my business what you guys decided to do.
Well, you throw your little prima dona hissy-fits so often that it's difficult to keep track of them all.
The charter is irrelevant because it's role play and has no accountability measures in game. There is no "police". Ironically, the Dictatorship Module and MU mechanics provide more "police" measures to maintain the eCan role-play and charter than the actual democracy mechanics in-game do.
Blah blah blah, I can't refute the facts so I resort to ad hominem.
I know, that was sort of my point.
The facts are under the charter Rylde's dictatorship is illegal and he and his supporters committed treason.
The charter was last amended before the Dictatorship mechanic was added to the game. The document itself is outdated and does not reflect in-game mechanics, so any new in-game mechanics not specifically addressed by the Government Charter are fundamentally ungovernable. The fact that only democratic government (President, Congress) is listed in the Charter does not make Dictatorship illegal - it simply reflects the fact that these mechanics were unknown at the time the document was last amended (or translated; I believe the last "amendment" was updating the French translation) nearly a year ago.
Attempts to amend the constitution to reflect these in-game changes are being sandbagged by a particularly obstinate Speaker who:
a) has clearly abused his authority;
b) has publicly declared that the charter is no longer valid because of "anarchy";
c) avows that he has "no love of democracy," which I actually find somewhat respectable;
d) bears an open, personal vendetta against the members proposing and supporting the changes;
e) likes to throw destructive hissy-fits and apply for foreign citizenship when he doesn't get his way.
The Speaker does not unilaterally make these decisions. Congress does, and the Speaker moderates that discussion. Arbitrarily banning members of Congress who did not break the CRoO does not validate your claims, and in fact proves that you are unfit for the position of responsibility to which you have been controversially elected.
I look forward to your attempt to treat me as a 'traitor' for playing the game different from you.
What happens if you aren't in charge of the Democracy that returns and the CP doesnt feel like administering all your silly laws?
...Maybe you'll start a Dictatorship
He'd never get the people to support him.
He doesn't use people, he uses sheep. And multies.
This is stupid, i mean why doesnt the dictator start exiling these people now? so they cant cause trouble later? if thats how they wanna play?
100th TP medal just earned. 8.7 billion damage for Canada. Tell me more about what kind of traitor I am...
Some people will have to be treated as traitors, but not all. We have to remember the Treaty of Versailles.
"as "Speaker" I do not plan on acting like the rules still apply."
Disagree. Rules should still be apply.
In most social situations, I'm not a fan of clean-cut rules-- principles tend to be more applicable and adaptable, which can reflect the mutations of society more.
Principales lead to interpretation.
Interpretation often lead to disagreement, as we rarely have the same opinion on a subject, But if you can get a good person applying those principales, with a good sense of judgment then, it can be ok.
But the current Speaker lack those qualities, 🙂
I'm very curious what the horrible everlasting punishments will be for our evil treachery.
I sure hope its not a forum ban.
Because the only power a person has in this game is outside the game. the mechanics allow for exactly zero punishment.