RGR, INCI, eSerbia, and The Truth
Gnilraps
Lie To Me (Mandatory listening)
Day 4560 of the New World
May 15, 2020
In response to this and its comments.
RGR,
I am happy you have chosen to complain about the strategies that have been employed at various times to defeat you. I won’t address your problems as Ajay. I’ll stick to RGR.
You are correct to assert that the events which led to my defeat of you and the disbandment of what was, at that time, a clear and present danger to eAmerican sovereignty, included importing other eAmerican voters from other eAmerican political parties. At no time, though, were any eFOREIGN VOTERS imported by me or any of my associates to affect any eAmerican election.
That is a critical distinction which I will address second.
First, let's talk about importing voters.
Either it's a good idea or it's a bad idea. Either it's "right" or it's "wrong". In this game, the mechanics make it entirely possible to hop into a political party on election day in order to cast a vote for a party president, if you feel strongly enough about that party's election. Plato isn't stupid. It would not be difficult to require a 3-day waiting period for voters, a voter-registration process, or any of a myriad other possible "fixes". But Plato does not regard the Political Takeover as a problem in this game. Plato has designed a game wherein this is a legitimate path to victory. So I do not agree that receiving help from outside the party is “wrong” or “bad”. Heck, my former party, the USWP, is importing an entire CANDIDATE this month.
PTO’s are almost always ugly. But they are totally part of this game. Get over it.
So is there such a thing as a “bad” or “wrong” PTO? Maybe. And this is the second thing.
What you did, RGR, is import eFOREIGN VOTERS to disrupt the ENTIRE eUSA Political process.
In your rhetoric, you claim that this is a “bad” or “wrong” thing to do. I’ve heard you complain about the INCI incursion many times (and I’ve heard you troll them with racist diatribe as well, but that is another matter). I was very alive during the INCI chapter of life (I think my first term as CP was at that time too). It was at times terrifying. They were unpredictable and powerful and above of FUN, FUN, FUN. The day they flamed out was a sad day. Long live Kutluk Bilge KiKul Bombacibaykus, festoz, and captain33.
I ate rice.
cCc Hail INCI cCc
My point, RGR, is that in decrying the eUSA’s embrace of INCI, you have damned your own embrace of eSerbians. You’ve damned your own practice of importing eSerbian citizens to eUSA citizenship so that they could impact domestic affairs.
And what you did was worse, even though I still wouldn’t call it “wrong”. INCI were not anti-eUSA. They were simply exclusively pro-INCI. eUS Politicians found a way to embrace them. They added to eAmerican culture without becoming a dangerous threat. I am sure they had plenty of discussions about trolling us by attempting to seize power and that would have been fun too, though embarrassing and sticky and a headache to undo. But they didn’t. They flamed out and moved on to another game.
What you did was to embrace eUSA’s most well-defined opponent in eRep.
eSerbia is an eNation which will never have any other ingame motive than to overthrow eUS Sovereignty. They have always wanted what they seem to have finally achieved, dominion over the eUnited States. Those are the gamers you allied yourself with. Those are the gamers you provided citizenship to. Under the in-game rhetoric of pro-USA, you sold yourself out to the least pro-eUSA group in the game.
RGR, YOU GOT PLAYED.
You who incessantly and annoyingly commingle your real life political ideology and your video game persona managed to find the largest and most powerful group of eRep players who do the same thing. Do you not understand that because of real life historical atrocities the eSerbian players hate real life America? I wish it were not the case, but it is. How foolish of you to have blinded yourself to that. If you want to accomplish your goals, you’ll have a better chance winning CP of eSerbia and proposing an alliance that way. You won’t because they don’t actually like playing with you either. You gave them internal access to eUSA, so they pretended to like you.
Before I go, one final word about your answer to Krapis’ question regarding your 6K subscriptions to your Newspaper.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I made that be one word, but I’m actually not done.
RGR purchased those subscriptions with ingame cc using a well-known (at the time) eBusiness which sold them to anyone who purchased. If I had to guess, those are 95% purchased, 5% earned.
I have earned every single one of my 3388 subscriptions and have never, NEVER purchased a single one.
So please don’t lie to the newbs, RGR. It’s not fair to them.
Now for my INCI friends reading this…
tl;dr:
RGR is still salty about how awesome you were, still eLives under the eDelusion that eSerbia can be an eFriend, and he will never eat rice.
Meanwhile, you really need to return to your regularly scheduled clicking.
Comments
Will read this one
cCc Kutluk Reyiz cCc
cCc incisiker cCc
Vote, comment pls
erepublik.com/br/article/2717898
Ah, this brought back some memories. Good ol' times.
Ah..
Imho, 30 days in the party should be the buffer period for any type of activity like voting.. Same with CS..
I've seen this abused so many times in my short time here, ppl leave the party the next day, but their votes are still counted in.. So not sure what exactly that 24h check period is there for 😃
Sub 3389 from me 😉
Pants = penis prison!
cCc Hail INCI cCc
there's so much wrong with this .... I don't even know where to begin. For one, all people have to do is scroll back on the citizenship pages to the month that you can took a f a. They will see hundreds upon hundreds of croatians, albanians, and other random foreigners that were brought in specifically to PTO our party.. so what you're saying is not only a lie but it's provable by just a little bit of research.
as someone who spent many many hours talking to serbians, what you're saying is bigoted and downright wrong. Lots of Americans agree that Clinton actions against them were war crimes. Everyone was ignorant of the fact that Hanibal LA just wanted to steal national Treasury and sell it. Which ended up doing to Serbia. Not realizing this was our biggest failure. basically every other Serbian I've ever been allied with is Honorable, honest and a really nice person. More than I can say for you. They don't have to be our enemy. The way you treat them means they are. And actually I first worked with hungarians to try to repel your pto's. Now they're good friends. So rubbish.
The tl😉r of all of this is if you decide a foreign group is good you can bring in as many of them as you want and you can use them to PTO my parties. But if I bring in a lies that are going to support us and work against you that somehow bad. I reject your argument, and I think you're one of the most deceptive and dishonest people in this game.
Allies*
Silly RGR.
There is a difference between an eSerbian and a Serbian.
I have not found any greater instance of dishonorable game-play among any particular group of real life people than any other. So I don't doubt your story that you have found "honorable and honest" players who are real life Serbian. I have too. Nemanja served as one of my top XO's in EZC for years, and he was entrusted with valuable assets. Don't lecture me on the difference between an honorable and a dishonorable actual person.
My distinction is this: in EEEEEE Serbia (emphasis added), there is ZERO LOVE for EEEEEEE USA. A lot of that is due to pain and suffering endured in real life, and geopolitical realities that have nothing to do with this game. Why are you so confused about pedantics???
I might also add, by the way, that bigotry is a fairly universal human problem. We have it in real life USA. Sometimes you will even encounter it against real life Serbians. Racism sucks. #irunwithmaud
Um, what, you literally said Serbs hate the US, now you're trying to twist it in to something you did not actually say? You are the most all over the place, dishonest person here. So many times you've faked trying to be friendly only to go back to your PTOing ways. There's a reason I chose the avatar I did for you for my eRepublik Survivor video years ago.... it's a fitting profile of your psyche.
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I understood the distinction. I didn't think RGR did.
He never does...
Oh, now I finally know what that RGR abbreviation stands for 😃
Get mental help.
I really enjoy having the mandatory listening back
cCc Hail INCI cCc
Wow, this takes me back. Good memories and bad.
Two quotes that stand out:
"Heck, my former party, the USWP, is importing an entire CANDIDATE this month". I don't know the story, but it sounds most lulz'worthy.
On RGR: "they don’t actually like playing with you either. You gave them internal access to eUSA, so they pretended to like you". Ouch. I hope the li'l fella didn't cry when he read that.
This is all WAY above my paygrade. I'll just be over here nodding and smiling.
If you are really a week and a half player, you shouldn't believe the propaganda they throw at you. There is a reason that people like this attack me all these years later.... doesn't speak well of their intention or character.
I'm amazed you're still here tbh
Seems legit
🦉🦉🦉 In ci We Trust 🦉🦉🦉
As one of the oldest members and recruiter of at least 20 people of INCI we were not against anyone, we were against EVERYONE. We never hesitated to speak our minds in the boldest way possible and we were never afraid. We brought justice, equality and chaos to these lands for a long time but then there were nothing to give anymore...
We saw the double standarts, racism and tried to fix if not troll that in our own very special way. We only wanted to have fun, speak and act freely. We were ahead of our time.
https://gfycat.com/teemingcharmingbrontosaurus
-ıNcı Seeker
There was one presidential election where we might have won. You threw your support to Pfeiffer. Had you not he might have lost. It would have been closer. So fail.
sounds like a big ole pile of cope to me
were I more active at the time I probably wouldve loved you guys
You sure have a lot to say for a dead man 😛
"Functionally dead", is what I believe I said...
The saddest part was to hear the way that all of the Serbs talked about Ajay while they were working with him. It was obvious, even to them, that RGR was out of his mind. He was simply a means to an end.
interesting. Yet they still talk to me all these years later. Wow. They really keep an act out for a long time. You and your pathetic band of not so merry thieves are the saddest of all
Oh, don't forget his other account in the UK doing the same thing...
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/8648357
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/breaking-news-the-truth-about-king-william--2528762/1/20
This is really great. I am amazed.
You should interview this guy next,
https://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/6046175
They work together, he's the UK equivalent, a kinda AJ light.
pirinc
Love your takes as always. o7
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While this is not about my feelings or about INCI, I have to admit that I was afraid of INCI in the beginning. They came on direct and strong, bold and perfectly honest. We were not prepared for their directness. They seemed like scary foreigners from a R/L part of the world that we mostly only know via the headlines.
One of the reasons I took another look at INCI was due to RGR's overt racism. Being R/L strongly opposed to racism in all forms and not an impressionable newb in this game, I trusted the concept that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. As a result, I embraced ‘cCc INCI cCc’. I too am sad to no longer see them in game and miss the days when they both shook up and strengthened eAmerica and enriched our R/L view of the world.
As for RGR, from day 1 of encountering him I found him to be an extreme racist. He loves to wave around some version of a Christian flag that has nothing to do with Christianity and more about certain groups feeling entitled to have dominion over other groups. At one point he wore his extreme Roman Catholicism as part of that banner, no doubt leaning toward opus dei style. His non game game videos and rants were like an extra heaping helping of nuttiness combined with unrestrained misogyny. I suspect that he shifted his terminology but hardly his philosophy, when he snuggled up with the Orthodox e-Serbs. I suspect that they found a certain kinship with shared world views, unwavering grudges sprinkled with a large amount of righteous superiority that takes form as general intolerance, antisemitism, racism, bigotry, discrimination, Islamophobia, homophobia and my personal favorite misogyny.
As described in the above article; all of this spills over into the game and forms a dangerous R/L precedent of influence when introduced to young, easily influenced players who happen to stumble in here. While it may provide RGR with a false sense of receiving attention, I am of the thinking that we can never warn these young players enough of the malevolence he represents. The more we keep this evil exposed, the less power it has.
Thank you Gnilraps for posting the TRUTH, as you do!
lol, what? The crazy never ends with your ilk.
Some of us who are educated know all about that region, and no, it had nothing to do with that.
Racism? We've had all creeds elected to Congress in our party. I like how you gloss over all the things they did, taking bribes for citizenship(we only asked for a 3 month minimum term of service and party loyalty, and people were disciplined for asking for $ on the RARE occasion they did). Threatening to PTO the US if they were not given huge sums of $ by the government, taking more Congress seats than agreed to, etc.
Not a Roman Catholic, and I am also Jewish, so wrong and wrong. We had Muslims in our party, so no. The other things, just wow, name calling. Real cool!
The only evil is coming from your keyboard.
Gnilly wouldn't know the truth if it smacked him in the face. He is worse than even Pfeiffer;
lol .. awesome read, o7
Just fyi, the political process of the USA is of no concern or interest to serbia. He might find serbian or other nationality players to help, but generally speaking nobody is interested in coming here. As for not interested in being friends, you made your bed now you must lie in it, it isn't personal. You'll note we agreed peace with you way quicker than we did with anyone else in history, not because we hate you or need peace, but simply because we did what we needed. Unlike your best CODE friends who taunted and punished you, we have no interest in that.
To summarise, you give too much credence to 2014 rhetoric that serbia lives and breathes to undermine or fight against the US. The simple fact is that erep is now a war game, and the only time USA has ever been a threat to serbia, is when we have 4-5 other nations fighting us at the same time (and all doing their best to win). I hope I dont sound spiteful, but just wanted to add my two cents as I thought by 2020 we would be past the whole 2014 serbia bogeyman discourse.
Just hilarious - https://youtu.be/s4oyK0-d5po
https://youtu.be/RFohmHS6WwY - an oldie but goodie, thank you Luis Sentieiro
All these years and ya'll still got a hard on for Ajay. That boy has you guys wrapped. And that whole inci thing with the ccc's and owl shit was about the most retarded part about being in the eUS back then. They took over the eUS without so much as a whimper and our population suffered. Why bring up old wounds?