Shame on You!
Day 1,785, 02:02
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by NoTie112
This article is not meant to insult anyone at all, but only meant as pure political opposition, a healthy ingredient for every and each democracy - and which has been lacking in the Netherlands the last few weeks in my view.
Most of you might have noticed my absence the last few months and might have wondered why - Did I really cave in to the wall of shame I've been put on? Wrong! As every ''respected'' player in the eNetherlands, I tried to get a pension in the United States. I however tumbled over the enormous bureaucracy, which is worse than in our own eState, to get in, even though my application had been accepted. After some time, I came to the conclusion that destiny wants me to be in the eNetherlands - and so be it!
What I immediately noticed is the lack of political activity and diversity. While it can be considered a good thing we are now all united by a few lackluster personalities - others having either fled the country, left the government or simply just quit the game, I find that simple fact has more disadvantages than advantages. I could list a whole list of disadvantages, but I guess you're confronted with them every and each minute of being in the eNetherlands - Inactive governments and political parties, lack of experience and realism, lack of opportunism or realpolitik (Do we really accept being Poland's puppet? Really?!), and an overall lack of activity which can be seen in our all-time low population numbers and experience points.
Political diversity is one of the most important things to get people involved within the community, instead of two-clicking. In fact, it does help so much more than any subsidy could do. When I started and evolved TDP in a major party, activity could immediately be seen - 'fights' over power, which were considered only to be satisfying the power-hungry of 'fossils' clinging to power, do actually contribute to the nation! Many examples can be named in our history (TDP, Independent Party, Communist Party e.g). The continuous friction between the traditional party (I&W), and opposition parties resulted in many mudthrowing indeed, but also to the most active times our nation had - It's no coincidence now that friction has ceased to exist we've been entering dark and boring times.
But I guess most of the current prominent players can be blamed for letting this happen. I&W has not been able to maintain their place, now that the elite has left the party in inactivity. GPN and Van Spijck are the only benefactors in this situation, who can retain power without any opposition for many terms (There are not even any opposing presidential candidates, for gods sake!) - but they can't be blamed - We would, and should, all be doing the same when such a chance would be given to us. DemNL, an always respectable opposition party, seems to have lost their political interest, although I'm sure it's the only party who can currently turn around things for the better of our country.
While the inactivity of the established parties is a major threat, the foolishness of the other parties, namely The Progressive Party, the Dutch Patriot Party and The Dutch Socialist Party, is more worrying. The Dutch Progressives have turned in mere puppets, while they once held the center of power withing 3 months of their existence. The Dutch Patriot Party has never been known to oppose GPN. The Dutch Socialist Party, vowing for many changes in our political system, having been demoted to a salonfährig party of no importance, but they chose themselves to do so.
While supporting other parties is an important part of the political game, supporting a presidential candidate, without any made known program and lackluster, yet somewhat stable, previous governments, is a betrayal to our democracy. Supporting GPN's ideology is also a betrayal to the ideals of both the Dutch Progressives and the Dutch Socialist Party; The former originally working together with I&W and placing a focus on fighting bureaucracy and isolationism, the last one vying for radical changes but ending up supporting conservative and reactionary elements.
Jolande Sap did the same..
Shame on you!
Most of you might have noticed my absence the last few months and might have wondered why - Did I really cave in to the wall of shame I've been put on? Wrong! As every ''respected'' player in the eNetherlands, I tried to get a pension in the United States. I however tumbled over the enormous bureaucracy, which is worse than in our own eState, to get in, even though my application had been accepted. After some time, I came to the conclusion that destiny wants me to be in the eNetherlands - and so be it!
What I immediately noticed is the lack of political activity and diversity. While it can be considered a good thing we are now all united by a few lackluster personalities - others having either fled the country, left the government or simply just quit the game, I find that simple fact has more disadvantages than advantages. I could list a whole list of disadvantages, but I guess you're confronted with them every and each minute of being in the eNetherlands - Inactive governments and political parties, lack of experience and realism, lack of opportunism or realpolitik (Do we really accept being Poland's puppet? Really?!), and an overall lack of activity which can be seen in our all-time low population numbers and experience points.
Political diversity is one of the most important things to get people involved within the community, instead of two-clicking. In fact, it does help so much more than any subsidy could do. When I started and evolved TDP in a major party, activity could immediately be seen - 'fights' over power, which were considered only to be satisfying the power-hungry of 'fossils' clinging to power, do actually contribute to the nation! Many examples can be named in our history (TDP, Independent Party, Communist Party e.g). The continuous friction between the traditional party (I&W), and opposition parties resulted in many mudthrowing indeed, but also to the most active times our nation had - It's no coincidence now that friction has ceased to exist we've been entering dark and boring times.
But I guess most of the current prominent players can be blamed for letting this happen. I&W has not been able to maintain their place, now that the elite has left the party in inactivity. GPN and Van Spijck are the only benefactors in this situation, who can retain power without any opposition for many terms (There are not even any opposing presidential candidates, for gods sake!) - but they can't be blamed - We would, and should, all be doing the same when such a chance would be given to us. DemNL, an always respectable opposition party, seems to have lost their political interest, although I'm sure it's the only party who can currently turn around things for the better of our country.
While the inactivity of the established parties is a major threat, the foolishness of the other parties, namely The Progressive Party, the Dutch Patriot Party and The Dutch Socialist Party, is more worrying. The Dutch Progressives have turned in mere puppets, while they once held the center of power withing 3 months of their existence. The Dutch Patriot Party has never been known to oppose GPN. The Dutch Socialist Party, vowing for many changes in our political system, having been demoted to a salonfährig party of no importance, but they chose themselves to do so.
While supporting other parties is an important part of the political game, supporting a presidential candidate, without any made known program and lackluster, yet somewhat stable, previous governments, is a betrayal to our democracy. Supporting GPN's ideology is also a betrayal to the ideals of both the Dutch Progressives and the Dutch Socialist Party; The former originally working together with I&W and placing a focus on fighting bureaucracy and isolationism, the last one vying for radical changes but ending up supporting conservative and reactionary elements.
Jolande Sap did the same..
Shame on you!
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Why leave, why not make the eNL a better place?
I'm not leaving ElGorro 😛
\o/
/me thinks back to BP en LSD "Zucht"
Misschien moet we weer samen gaan met BE om weer wat activiteit te krijgen.
Quote ''DemNL, an always respectable opposition party, seems to have lost their political interest, although I'm sure it's the only party who can currently turn around things for the better of our country.''
Why aren't you apart of them if you believe they are the only party that can change the Netherlands? Its not meant in a rude way or anything I'm just honestly curious.
And also what has GPN and Van Spijck done that has been this wrong to this country?
Where you not the one that emptied our whole treasury? That sounds rather unhealthy to me NoTie
cure, how about you give some proof of that?
In my personal opinion the fact that NoTie did everything to work against the whishes of the people regarding the subject is more than enough proof.
I heartily support your message. By the way, are you going to complete your series of political party stories? I really loved those. 😁
Here we go again..Your problem is not "enormous bureaucracy", people just don't like you and don't trust you.. o7
Mitch Rapp, dat zou geen slecht idee zijn!
LOL, what a load of crap! GPN conservative? Then you really don't understand politics! This has been a real revolution, now everybody get's supplies, not just the fat cats with the warm cosy places. Some of these state-MU's are still inactive. On the financial front; this country has been robbed twice this year, first elegiately by you, then by I&W finance minister Auggustus, who wanted to "burn our cc" as he always called it.
The van Spijck administrations have been working from their very first day to get this country financial healthy again, something that was lacking for a very long time. Now we're starting to climb out of the valley, and hopefully soon we can start building up our armies, and free our regions. I am confident that van Spijck and his team will liberate eNL as soon as that is possible.
Although I fully agree that political diversity is wanted to keep the spirit alive, the thing we need most now is repair of the financial situation previous govs have left us with - subtly reminding you of the theft under your administration... So, as boring as the alleged "conservative" strategy of the current gov may appear, if we ever want to free our regions and make this game fun again, we have to use our minds instead of big empty words most of us have to google anyway.
Voted, not because I agree with everything you say, but because I think we should keep this in mind when making our long-term goals 🙂.
empty words = no vote!
I agree with Reinier and Zeeuwsmeisje. I haven't been around for long but I've gotten to know van Spijck as a really active CP with the best interest of eNL at heart. We've had some major struggles and we're finally starting to get healthier again as a country so why even bother with another president that would most likely be unactive or do dumb stuff cause he just doesn't get it? Ofcourse I would love to see someone else running for CP next to van Spijck so we would have real elections..
.. but who has the time, energy, brains and the mentality to be a good CP besides van Spijck atm? He's always online, he's constantly talking to other CP's to get things done and he ALWAYS knows what's going on in our country as well as other countries. And about GPN: I chose GPN cause they are active, they have nice people and they work hard to make eNL a better place. They help newbies, they get the most votes when it comes to congress (which says enough I think) and ideas are always welcome😁
So if you think you can do it better, be my guest and prove your worth but otherwise stop bashing..
Nice post and welcome back! Its funny, I kind of posted the same speech in the DPP forum. Currently the choice is between extreem left and center left for political parties. For CP its only vS and I cannot really say eNetherlands has improved since his presidency.
I am relatively new to this game, but I have to say The Van Spijck team has worked hard to get me more involved in the game and I think they are doing a great job. If that is boring then I will take it. I agree with Shibitah's remarks about how active they are. The time and effort they are putting in are helping to build us up stronger with thought and planning.
I was not here to experience the alleged robbery of the coffers, but perhaps Notie needs to put his money where his mouth is.
Quote: "The Dutch Socialist Party, vowing for many changes in our political system, having been demoted to a salonfährig party of no importance, but they chose themselves to do so."
No we didn't, people only want to be member of parties with many members, so we don't get any change.
We are still the same progressive party as at the begin. People must follow their harts, not the number of members a party have. And that is what is happening in eNL.
So join DSP, the only party that chooses side, and not just clicked on: "Central, libertarian" to get members.
@ 2.D.G. When NoTie was last president, our treasury was emptied. NoTie refused to inform the congress about what was going on. And the admins only wanted to give information on the theft to NoTie.
So we got stuck in a situation where NoTie (with full access to the passwords) was the prime subject, and was the only one with access to the evidence. As such, his refusal to give this information made him look very suspicious. But indeed there is no direct evidence against him.
I like the fact we need to stand up agianst Poland and get our regions back.
But the rest is a lot of made up don't know what u did before i came but i Didn't do the right thing so
Not voted but supporting the fighting agianst poland
didn't read the article but you spelled salonfähig wrong
I do not know of eNL's faction history, but this was a good read. May I explain the actions of the Dutch Socialist Party?
I've been working for Van and he seems to be getting the job done, also has shown me much fairness and kindness. We currently do not have anyone experienced enough (about eNL) to run our own candidate and so I chose to back Van who has been doing well. He hasn't robbed the bank and he has a decent cabinet.
Once we reach #5, you'll see more radical change 😉
Mike Bane
+1 and voted
@darkydarky: everybody wants to fight the Poles, but are we ready for it?
We all know what happens to little birdies that leave the nest to soon
If this message were from any other person in the eworld I would encourage it and even think despite some incorrect interpretations this to be a good article that makes you think.... but in this case I would say:"GIVE US BACK OUR GOLD!"
To NoTie - A couple of comments posted by well known eNL players are suggesting that you have something to explain.
Maybe you could use your next article to comment on all these accusations against you.
And to our government - How the hell did he get his eNL citizenship back with that much dirt on his name?
Just wondering...
I really dislike the fact that NoTie fled to eUSA. Just like many other famous eNL'ers. ex. Gamr and Augustus.
Then we will just have to make more.
you still haven't changed salonfähig
@Struis Vogel i agree on that they should explain why they don't like each other.
NoTie112, I never wondered where you went, I can only wonder why you came back and wish you hadn't.
For those who weren't aroun😛 under NoTie112's last government all state gold (a LOT of gold) disappeared. NoTie112 claimed hackers took it but some couldn't - and still can't - believe th because he has always refused to give full disclosure of what happened and he refused to disclose his (supposedly) exchange of messages with Admins concerning this matter. He never took any responsibility.
quote: "As every ''respected'' player in the eNetherlands, I tried to get a pension in the United States."
I strongly believe that people who stay in their home countries and fight for it's freedom and prosperity - deserve more respect than the ones that leave for a better income ...
It's a game, not a real-life so you won't really starve to death if you stay here, help your country as much as you can, even though working for Rineke for like ~ 20 NLG/day 😃
So, yeah, it's really rude coming here, throwing shit on us that stayed and calling us: "Poland's puppets" just because we can't battle them out of our territories (yet).
But unlike the "respected" players you mentioned - we don't give up, we stay, work our asses off, spend all the gold we have to buy weapons/food and BATTLE !
And with the help of Van and our comrades: we are hopefully getting better, stronger, more organised, focused, so let's see what future brings.
well... Tonie is still blacklisted, so cannot join in on congress votes.
http://enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=133&t=9847
@Djoks
I couldn't agree with you more. You taking the words out of my mouth (Dutch saying)
@djirts
I know that, I was there.
But he was never blacklisted for having robbed it, he was blacklisted for not being cooperative.
I have yet to see someone here give some solid proof of him robbing it.
@2.D.G
It is important to note that the president at that point in time has the responsibility to take care of not just the country, but also the accounts in his care that were robbed. Without being able to delegate responsibility to the administration of eRepublik (reasons being an insecure user information storage, or otherwise), the responsibility eventually falls on him.
Djoks 07
Hm. First taste of controversy and drama I've tasted in eNL.
While I have my issues with eNL, I know Van Spijck as a reasonable person that can be worked with. Such people are important for every nation and eNL is lucky to have Van Spijck willing to give himself fully for their nation.
Amarant, it's his fault that the robbery wasn't solved, but he wasn't found responsible for the robbery, but rather for not being cooperative, as I already said.
He should not hold responsibility for the robbery unless someone gives solid proof that he actually stole it.
Otherwise, what would happen with innocent until proven guilty?
@2.D.G
Whether you call him a thief or incompetent does not matter to me, or the blacklisting that followed. I think that by focussing to much on the gold being stolen, people are overlooking that what openly happened is bad enough. Obstructing the case for no valid reason is on equal footing with performing the crime. For that the punishment was adequate, as the lack of responsibility and cooperation are not desirable qualities in people filling future governmental positions.