Regarding The Establishment and the Current Political Climate
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NoTie112
The fate of our state of affairs in our eCountry, the eNetherlands, seem to have brighten up the last few couple of days. The eNetherlands have been blessed with an increased rate of activity, thanks to the return of many former experienced, active and ambitious eDutchmen, but also increased rate, although still meager, of new players joining our eCountry has made our future seem a little more better than the doomday scenario we are facing each and every day in our time as de facto Polish puppet state.
For the first time in months, there is actual opposition to the near absolute rule of GPN's Van Spijck. Despite the best intentions, a rule not interrupted for 4 months - which would equal 16 years of real life rule - can hardly be considered a positive trend. It is no surprise the current establishment is worried about the increased rate of activity. Each government should be glad to see an increased rate of activity, and therefor increased chances of liberating ourselves from ePolish tyranny, you would think.
Well, it seems like they’re not! Instead of valuing the increased potential of our eCountry and it’s population, they’ve engaged onto a campaign of slander & false accusations, in a final and desperate attempt to hold onto power.
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Lock and Load
The Establishments' last attempt at excluding not only an experienced and active citizen, a rarity these days, but a whole political party - thereby endangering our very level of democracy, has been this demonizing article.
Written by the Vice-President of the Dutch Socialist Party - which supports a government radically different from their honest political direction - it tricks readers into believing it's honest and neutral intentions regarding my political history. It's in fact a completely biased article, which depicts me as the ultimate Judas (The fox may change his fur..), and my supporters as dumb and retared ('goats). It claims to describe my political past, but it only does so partly; It only reviews those events which the Establishment can interpretate to their benefit. It also only tells the story of a part of the country; namely the critizers of my very own personality and my political actions and ideology, while none of my supporters (or I myself, for that matter) have been given a chance to shed a light upon my political history. I can't let this happen, without defending myself, and thereby the values of our Country regarding respect and freedom which we're proud of and should be protected at all times.
1. It describes me as someone who commits bribery. - FALSE
I only master the tactics of campaigning. It is not illegal or frowned upon to send messages during elections, or to new players for that matter, with a small 'present' included. It happens in real life politics, it happens in eLife politics. It is hypocritical for an aggresively growing party like the Socialist Party, or a party focussing excessively on our newer players, Geuzen Partij Nederland, to accuse me of bribery based on the facts available.
2. It claims I'm responsible for the robbery of our state. - FALSE
During my second term as president, our state accounts were robbed. I took immediate actions, but the admin reply was unsatifactory and it didn't take long before I was accused of doing it. I decided to take my responsibility and step down as president, as I advised everyone who had access to government access to do so (this advise was ignored by Congress). I didn't feel responsible for that case anymore when I stept down and decided to retire from activity for some time, and therefor I was put on a blacklist, as I didn't cooperate in the investigation of the commited crimes and was therefor deemed to be the robber, or at least suspected. I however, recently proved my innocence by showing the Chairman of Congress evidence of my actions taken during the aftermath. As a result, my name has been cleared, I can once again participate in politics and I hold the same rights as every citizen. No citizen deserves such a slanderous campaign, everyone should agree on that!
3. It claims I'm a failure at governing. - FALSE
The Establishment completely neglects the fact I've been reelected on completely honest ways, after my so called disasterous first term. Not to speak of all the things I've meant to the eNetherlands in my past: I've been coach/ambassador many times, but also multiple times Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Home Affairs & Minister of Coaching during my 2,5 years of service to the eDutch state.
4. It accuses me of being sarcastic. - TRUE
The writer claims to be laughing loudly at reading a few amount of my ironically meant articles. Well, the jokes on you!
😉
For a matter of fact, I do not want to waste anymore words on a process which can not be dubbed activity-increasing opposition anymore, as my articles were always meant to do without attacking any individiual personally/seriously, but instead pose an actual threat to our country.
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The knifes have been sharpen
Instead of forcing it's opponents to foreign countries, the Establishment should open anyone willing to participate in the eNetherlands with open arms. The only sensible option right now is an immense refocus on our priorities. I want to cooperate with all parties and individuals in reaching this. Let this be a wake-up call to our current government!
We should not justify holding infinite power by claiming to stablize our financial situation (although financial policy, by Minister of Finances, Weekstrom has been the best thing happening in our government), while completely neglected the initial and most important goal of the government: Making a liberation of our country possible. This is only possible by taking efforts in the Ministry of Recruitment (being led by an inactive nobody at the moment), and by refusing our current position as lapdog of foreign powers, under the unjust naming of international cooperation. This is only possible with a government able to lead this country, not with a regime which distances itself from the general population and isolates itself in the centre of power, which has caused at least the Ministry of Foreign Affiars, the Ministry of Home Affairs and The Ministry of Recruitment to be defunct at the moment. No one should be excluded at this moment, not when the survival of our nation is at stake.
A concerned citizen,
NoTie112,
Party President Libertas
Comments
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You got me a bit confused NoTie. Do you have a clear picture of the current government? I haven't seen people of government react on you're previous article? Well of course people related to the government, but given the way the current government is formed and given the actual number of active players that can hardly be avoided. But there have not been statements from high government officials on you're article. So where you're picture presented here comes from puzzles me.
@Weekstrom:
Seeing the President finally showing up in public and calling it a great article, is just one of the signs for me of the 'Establishment' (The ones who hold actual power /😕 government), feeling endangered by new political directions.
Did he? Haven't seen that. And it's not in one of the article's comment, so I wonder who and or where it was. And calling something a great article doesn't strike me as seeing it as a threat by the way. So I still have no clue.
Just as I don't have that yet on you're program. There are questions about the presented party program that are not answered. It would be nice if you answered those since you mainly reacted on the statements about you as a person. You know the view on that from me/this gov and seemed to like it. I'd very much like to learn more about you're solution. As do others if I look at the questions. So please enlighten us (as comment on that article, not here) so we can all benefit.
http://www.enetherlands.nl/viewtopic.php?f=294&t=10614#p133954
Calling it very informative is creating a false truth.
I did not say current government members supported that article staunchly, just the political elements that are in power (which includes the parties who support the government the most).
to much wall of text, to few hot chicks to read.
I'm sorry to see you see government conspiracies everywhere.
As far as I'm aware, the government had nothing to do with X Deadpool's article.
But to summarise:
1 - No bribery is not illegal in erepublik. But it is a despicable act. And bribery does include giving presents to potential voters. Wouldn't you feel better about someone if they just gave you a present?
2 - Uh, I cannot find such a claim in X Deadpool's article. Can you tell me where it is, or cite it?
3 - So maybe you should argue what great things you have brought about? Instead of saying that for your re-election you managed to become president again, without bribing people? You say you have held many posts, but that says nothing about quality...
4 - Sarcasm is hard to make clear in short articles. But I agree some articles are very funny, e.g. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/leftovers-of-the-campaigns-1961139/1/20
in·for·ma·tive
adj.
Serving to inform; providing or disclosing information; instructive.
Do you deny that there is information in that article? That's going to be very tough to uphold...
I haven't had time to read that article, at least not the links and al the details, but informative it seems to be. Especially for people that didn't hear from it yet and don't know what happened. I can understand of course that it's something you'd prefer not to be remembered at since it was no highlight in you're career. Fact is that it happened, you had the guts to take responsibility by resigning but made an error on informing the congress, getting the blame where others perhaps should have.
@djirtsdew before lecturing others, it might be wise to educate yourself first. It is not informative in design because the writer's position is not neutral towards the subject and his goal is to persuade the reader. Therefor it is a persuave text. The fact that it contains information doesnt make it an informative text.
"Instead of forcing it's opponents to foreign countries, the Establishment should open anyone willing to participate in the eNetherlands with open arms. The only sensible option right now is an immense refocus on our priorities. I want to cooperate with all parties and individuals in reaching this. Let this be a wake-up call to our current government!"
I can only hope people see through these nonsense. The gov is built from all parties and has been open to all and any from the start.
And buying more votes I see 🙂 20 when I started typing, 34 when I was ready. geeesssss
Your point about buying votes is irrelevant to the discussion. I'm glad you reckon my use of political campaigning properly
If it really is a government built from all parties and people, why are the people behind this government supporting excluding me and my political party? Why are people excluded, when it's clear the government is currently filled with people not (yet) enough capability to serve our nation?
The government nor people supporting it are excluding you, Tonie. In your last article as CP, you said your name would forever be tainted by the robbery, and now you act surprised that you're a controversial person, even after you bashed current politics. My guess is that it's all posturing, none of your indignation being sincere, and that you're doing it for political gain and activity. You always liked stirring up controversy, and I think you still do. 😁
Maybe buying votes is irrelevant but just so typical for your ways. Why try to earn trust and support if you can simply buy it...
Anyway, your party did not exist when this gov was formed, so really.... even you cannot take yourself serious this time.
To all people still in doubt if there is any truth in this: no, it was and is free to any citizen who wants to contribute to apply for a job in the gov.
buying votes
LOL
From what I have seen it's not buying votes NoTie. In about 30 minutes the number of votes rose from 7 to 57. There were almost no votes added and the article of Piet had just overtaken you're article. At that point it surged. That's not buying, that's using multi's for you're own gain. Since then 2 others were added... It puts you're past elections in a different light as well I'd say. Not to mention a, God forbid, future one. One wonders, can admins see from which IP the votes originate....
I was expecting a twist on my words. I hope people actually read my article and not just take your victimized summary of it. I never claimed you robbed eNL. Go reread it. I started off as NEUTRAL. I asked MULTIPLE CITIZENS FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES all about your past. EVERY citizen responded to your name NEGATIVELY. If they all would have responded POSITIVELY, my article would be totally different.
Looks to me that Notie did not change; he is still using people to get to power. And when he has that power again, he will stop being active, because he does not have a clue what to do. 😞
I also find it ironic that NoTie is using the fact that eNL hasn't recovered from the damage that his reign as CP did to our country as his way of gaining political power back. We're obviously tight on money which means we cannot do much in the way of wars or anything beyond MPP's until we correct NoTie's mistakes. Yet NoTie finds it convenient to use this as his means to return and 'save' us all.
And I never called you any names or your followers any names. It was a quote someone gave that I kept in it to show the severity of the dislike there is for you in this country.
@X Deadpool: We did recover from the robbery because tax revenue was higher than it is now. The robbery isn't the direct cause for our current lack of money. Just to get the facts straight. 😁
I'm not talking purely about the robbery, though. It was his terms and the aftermath of his terms. We've not got much wiggle room to do anything anymore according to the last economic graph that I was while in congress.
X Deadpool, you do not deserve the name of Socialist. You are lieing, or at least twisting the truth to your own liking. You are subjective and biased, and you think people fall for it. The crap government has been in can only be traced to that very same government, which has been ruling for 4 months, for crying out loud. Stop looking for a scapegoat to put the current issues on. Once again; You weren't even there when I was president!
You have never had a chance to make up your own mind about my abilities, which doesn't include only being President (Being elected means already more than enough regarding political/administrative abilities). You are only influenced by the opinions of only ONE side of the eNetherlands, which you afterwards claims is the truth. This is shamefull behaviour, as it's slander in it's purest form. There are people who still would cooperate with me, or think positve about me, but you keep that censored
I'm no liar. I've no need to lie about anything. lol. I had no clue who you were when you first came out criticizing every single thing. But facts are facts, my article is full of facts on how you acted and handled things, and by the opinions of many many citizens who remember your time very well. I did not make this article on MY opinion. I started off by saying I was neutral at first, never said a word to or about you. I watched what you said, what others said...
... I can clearly see that you have a nice way with words, as I've acknowledged. I knew a retaliation would come out soon enough, and I was right. But again, if you read everything in my article, it is quotes from other people. The only time I inserted my opinion was either transitioning from one subject to another or giving a summary at the end. I told people to look at ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED ON HOW YOU ACT AND HANDLE THINGS and form an opinion based on that. Not based on your slick words.
My final opinion on you is that you are a master manipulator. You know how to get people on your side and how to twist a story to fit your way of seeing things. By the way, I've only received two negative comments. One from you, one from Weirdstuffs. People have even gone so far as to thank me personally in PM's for writing my article and showing everything that I did. You can call me whatever you like, but I have facts on you and how you behave, you have NONE on me or my character.
Don't fool urself; you manipulated your article by only picking out those quotes and events which can be abused for your own political gain, while at the same time completely slandering a major political opponent. You don't give anyone a chance to form a neutral opinion, but you are only putting a cordon sanitaire around my and my party, because certain elements are 'afraid' of me and my radical different changes. Stop hiding under your socialist cover and confess you're a desperate reactionary!
People who symphatize me, don't usually waste their time on (effortlessly) debunking your insinuations. People who symphatize with me, don't make themselves look ridiculous by participating in this failed attempt of slander. There are people who agree with me personally, and with me politically, which is the basis of my political party Libertas. You're recent actions tell me more than enough about your character. I actually have contributed to the eNL in the past, you did not (yet).
You have a way of dodging things. Everything put in my article was what was said about you. People even chimed in afterwards to tell me more things even though my article was published already. Honestly, you make me chuckle quite often. I admire your way of twisting things, but luckily, a lot of people don't fall for it. Sadly, some of the newer players do. I pointed out things about your terms and how you reacted to certain things, how you acted to certain things, and even quoted your own words
Yet and still.. you claim that it's all make believe and just the bad things. Well hey, if anyone would have shown me GOOD things, I would have included it.I didn't ask anyone from my party, nor your party about you or your past. I asked everyone else that was around at the time. If you sit there and call me a liar, you call them a liar as well. Fall back on your lovely little words, but most people aren't buying it anymore. Especially the older ones.
I suggest you either do your research the next time when writing an article, or leave the media altogether. You clearly can't take the responsibility of using our media freedom for the better of eNetherlands, but only for censoring facts, fabricating claims and commiting revisionism. The rest of what I want to say to you can be read in my article, which I suggest you take lessons from in writing something a few times less insulting and democracy endangering next time. Good luck, 'comrade'
Oh jeez. You dodged it again. Good on you. 🙂
Also, read the other comments and take their advice. You seem to brush off quite a lot and ramble on about quite little.
Heh, after digging through some media history I was quite split between the several sides of the whole story.
Until I saw this: http://tinyurl.com/74tctxh
So, no matter how well you argue. Whatever you write down or how populistic you get, to me you'll always be the one taking this whole ordeal as nothing but some "internet trolling".
Shame really, because I did see some specks of brilliance in your words and the way you've been able to communicate (some of) your ideas.
It's actually good that Deadpool wrote that article. Informing the citizens of eNL about a potential danger is a good thing. You're just a conceited demagogue who's still dodging criticism.
What happened to our gold man? Why did you leave after the incident? Don't you think that's at least a bit suspicious?
@Ytomyth.
I'm sorry to see you think I've been writing long articles and proposing plans and working for eNetherlands for years now only to be internet trolling. That article you are pointing at is sarcastically meant and is quite time-bound to be completely understood.
@Struis Vogel: Please do your research and keep up to date, it seems you and Deadpool suffer from the same biased issues and the urge to spit out unjustful accusations.
Accusations backed up with your own words and the viewpoint of others that apparently suffered through the chaos and mess that was your CP reign in the eNetherlands. Stop trying to fool people. You're untrustworthy, you dodge everything and play a victim role whenever anyone says anything that isn't positive about you. You remind me of a snake with a fork-tongue to go along with it.
If I ask neo-fascist their opinion about the Socialist Party you are in, do you think I would gather any positive replies? You are trying to brand you're narrowmindness on the rest of the eNetherlands, and while narrowmindness has been policy the last few months, I will not allow that to happen without countermeasures.
Dodging things again.. please quit acting like a victim. I understand it's one of your many ways to gain influence but you're not as beloved in this country as you'd like to think. But you mean to tell me, you acknowledge that all the older citizens who know about you and the way you handle/run things don't like you so their opinion doesn't matter? Keep giving me all these wonderful responses. It helps prove my case. 🙂
wat je beweert boeit niet echt je bent van de lijst af en daarmee dus ook niet beschuldigd, maar hou alsjeblieft op met katy-perry repeat shit in je artikelen
Dit land heeft meer Garmr nodig.
@ Grandmaster Ymir: Jammer genoeg is Garmr een van de veraders die naar eUSA is gevlucht!
@ NoTie112: If the facts in X Deadpools article aren't true, as you claim, than why do you make such a case of it???