It's time to move forwards, not backwards...
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by Pat Harper
Canada it's time to grow some balls and it's time to stop arguing over the past. DMV has been elected, some of you like this, some of you hate this. Personally I didn't care who won the election and think everyone would have done a good job. The winner was DMV, YES I supported him, and why not? It was fully in my rights to support him and looking at some of the comments I have received since I do not regret it because people's real personalities come to light in situations like this.
I was one who voted no to the CoT proposal, I also ran DMV on the ballot to make the election interesting, I didn't actually think he would win but I am pleased he did. The disunity is pointless, people holding grudges for no reason. So what if he didn't contact EVERYONE for the trail membership? At the end of the day congress agreed with the proposal and it went through, I still don't agree with it but that's not the point.
The sad thing is people have instantly held it against him that he's American. So what? It's a game...
I've had people questioning my loyalty and calling me the 'untrustworthy Brit' 'never trust a Brit' 'British backstabber' 'British PTOer' - Oh really...? I would have thought I would have proved who I was by now, looking at the last 8 months yet it seems most of my criticism comes from those who abandoned Canada in it's time of need and roll back in once we have land to resume their usual bullshit and shit stirring.
Instead of holding grudges, instead of bawwing on every article, whining and bitching eCanada should grow a pair and focus on the future, growing our country and helping the eBabies. We are not going to change the past and we have to adapt to different types of leadership. Do I have to remind everyone that this is our first month after the wipe where we can actually breath again and enjoy the bonuses of having a congress? What have we done to support our new players? What have we done to keep people in the country who have moved here to help?
From what I have seen there has been PTO attempts, abuse to each other, disunity and mass PMing to get the edge on political opponents. This is all very well but for god sake, lets try and improve the country before we destroy it again? If I was a new citizen to eCanada I would move straight back to wherever I came from because the amount of disrespect is off the scale. I don't know how many people noticed but we ARE STILL UNDER THE GRASP OF SPAIN. Or have we permanently given Spain our east coast?
When we got land back everyone had a vision of a positive future, a fresh start and what has happened? We are back in the same shithole as before we were wiped.
Yes my inactivity is near minimal at the moment, I found a spare 15 mins to write this up and I migrate IRL to Australia in just a few days. I shouldn't care about what happens but since I put in so much effort along with so many others, others who were united, I don't want to see us crumble once again after being in the best position we have got to in months.
Just think Canada. THINK.
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Wrong, not consulting the population in general is a BIG deal Pat. GL in Aus!
Ya, I said I didn't agree with it but what's done is done. The main thing is it's a trail membership and we can leave if we want to, consulting the whole population properly.
I didn't want to go too much into this point because it's such an obvious error but it's not helping our situation just complaining about it if ya get my drift.
And thanks o/
Its actually a cold day in hell when I 100% back, support and agree with the MDP Party pres but.. well..
Put on your tuques because I agree completely with Leo.
This was a side slap.
We were lead to believe we would NOT join any alliance.. We would have time to regrow and find ourselves first.
We were then without anyone knowing (Even some congress are scratching their heads) forced into an alliance that FAILED to pass my governments referendum just 2 months ago.
We are being told to back up and defend the states near daily when after we did that 2 months ago the only thanks we got was (Well we are buddies with eSpain so we cannot fight them or do anything. Deal with it)
All of this without consulting in the people...
bad form..
Read my above comment..
Bah thats what I get for taking 15 min to post a msg.. lol
Sorry your post wasnt up there when I started on the reply
As usual then lol
😛 happens too often for me to admit.. In any case.. Good luck in Aus 🙂
Many thanks 🙂
Buy me a bowie knife? 😃
Well said Pat o/
o7
Amen
Straight talking, no nonsense and no personal BS...PAT4CP \o/
yada yada yada. More important is
"I migrate IRL to Australia in just a few days."
Stay away!!!!!
Take a boat. Land in Indonesia. and sail across. Worth the trip lol
Cozy time with Cozza C:
Wombat love ^_~
thank god I live on the other side of Melb. Far far away from Sale
I will find you, don't you worry!
USA isn't a worthy ally at all we had one MU step up from within there country and now we owe them our allegiance?
You had more than one. Remember when you provoke them into NEing Canada and half the country fought to keep the US from wiping Canada? You're half the reason this relationship even need rebuilt. Israel Stevens is the other party to blame, but he shares slightly less blame than you do.
see your from the other side of the fence and from my side i exposed a secret alliance switch at the time that at the time backstabbed 95% of its allies including canada as we weren't even talked to about it and just supposed to follow along.
Rylde, I was in on the cabinet discussion where Canada was the first name brought up for membership after CTRL was to be founded. Had you talked to the US instead of throwing a temper tantrum none of this relationship rebuildiing would have been necessary. Not to mention the fact that Canada would have probably never been wiped in the first place.
People wonder why Spain kept Canada wipe for 8 months, but when a CP is arrogant enough to dare a nation with ten times the damage to wipe them ofc they're going to make you pay for that arrogance.
USa treats its allies like crap. Maybe they'll learn to not just bring up allies and actually consult with them in the future. You stem from there branch with how u conduct yourself and do business as our now CP. You do things and expect obedience from the rest as if your actions seen and unseen are without question. We don't do things like that round these parts.
I don't expect obedience at all, I'm not a member of military dictatorship party. Everyone makes mistakes, the difference between us seems to be that I don't delude myself into thinking I make no mistakes. We're all human, if you screw up you try to fix it and then pick yourself up and move on.
USA is in need help now that Brazil has its hands full and Spain isn't really an ally. Yeah I'll be ignoring every American battle I see just like they ignored ours vs Spain for 8 months.
USA may not be worthy of our allegiance but geographically it makes sense. I personally think we should have waited it out for a month or two, found out who our real friends are and let the map sort itself out a bit before throwing all our eggs in one basket, but at least we are a trail member.
Super alliances don't last forever, it won't be long until new alliances form and the old are discarded. At the moment I feel we look like a clingy toddler hanging on to mummy on our first day at school. Times change, things will sort themselves out I'm sure.
Well if you haven't noticed treating us the american way by having a small handful of elites make our decisions with little to no input doesn't fly up here.
The Canadian people picked their Congress by voting for their parties. The Constitution and CRoO were followed to the T, you don't like it change the rules.
We'll see what happens when we get a full congress.
"If I was a new citizen to eCanada I would move straight back to wherever I came from because the amount of disrespect is off the scale."
Now that's the honest truth.
"Instead of holding grudges, instead of bawwing on every article, whining and bitching eCanada should grow a pair and focus on the future, growing our country and helping the eBabies. We are not going to change the past and we have to adapt to different types of leadership. Do I have to remind everyone that this is our first month after the wipe where we can actually breath again and enjoy the bonuses of having a congress? What have we done to support our new players? What have we done to keep people in the country who have moved here to help?"
Less than three in ten voters supported DMV, the third place finisher came within a dozen votes of being CP. There was no clear mandate at all in the leadership of DMV. This in isolation is not an issue.
DMV has vaulted eCan into an alliance in a way that we are not accustomed too. eCan's culture prefers a more consultative approach. When our leaders do not do this, we turn on each other. With less support than three in ten, there is plenty of people to turn on you.
I anticipate that balance will be restored quickly.
A lot of players are focused on the future and their visions of the future do not include CoT. There was no gauge of interest in this prior to racing out to join CoT so DMV denied himself this input and this support. He and his administration are the ones who need to grow some balls and deal with the consequences of their actions. eCanadians have always had balls and it is those balls that are putting the pressure on now.
A good insight as always, I'm interested to see how this pans out
Next month lets drop in some more short term foreign candidate CP's to create more unity with countries who choose our enemies over us.
Works everytime the same way calling for unity and waving a british flag in canadian faces does.
I thought you would appreciate that touch
I am one of those that doesn't care that your a Brit btw. You had an extensive history of growing and adding to the community. Have to respect that regardless of where u hail from.
Appreciated
The largest different between yourself and DMV3 is that you did take the 8 months for people to get to know you and for that we trusted you. A lot of us don't know DMV and from what we have seen, he comes off as a one man show. When the stakes are as high as alliance membership, he can't seriously expect blind loyalty from people he has taken no time to develop political relationships with. With the approach he's taken, he was his own worst enemy.
It's true, but he was elected at the end of the day. All I did was put him on the balot
To be entirely fair, he only won cause he's clicked buttons more than IBB. He won off the Experience Points tiebreaker. If eCanada had been allowed to choose which of the two to make CP, it might've turned out differently, but alas, we cannot change game mechanics.
A CP that won on a tie would have done well to consider their position not solid enough to warrant unilateral, unchecked and rapid political moves, especially when undertaking alliance changes. I find if difficult to believe those actions would fly in any political environment.
eCanada cant grow a full set of balls without me ha
I want to move to aussie land, one day....
we can drive yutes around some desert
http://youtu.be/eNZ1O2KTOOg?t=34s
Much of the political class are just a loud ego-tripping pain in the ass that only minimally represent the politically weary/lazy quiet majority.
Don't make the mistake of paying too much attention to a noisy minority's self-important crap. DMV is the CP we voted for probably due in large part because he doesn't sound like a thin skinned self promoting cry-baby.
voted for the insight.
i heard they water down beers in australia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGxeLLvkCk
You're thinking of the US. No ber watering-down here 😛
I must object, Canada has some balls as seen through our history 😉
Good luck in Aussie mate 🙂
P.S: buy me a ticket! xD
Elephantiasis
Good article, and good luck mate!
Have a dance down under!