[SWE] The truth about the Sweden-Germany conflict
Svenska Statens Infocenter
This is an article written by the Swedish government regarding the situation between Sweden and Germany.
Sweden has ever since the foundation of Atlantis, been one of the core nations in the alliance, we’ve been called “the rock of Atlantis”. Sweden has, after Romania, been the nation dealing the most damage in battles and we’ve spent many thousands of gold protecting other Atlantis countries. We have offered to lend massive amounts of gold to nations in need of it. We’ve sent our army all over the world to prevent TO. When Norway got TO by Hungary, who then threatened to attack and conquer Finland, we prevented them by taking the bordering region between the two countries, and we paid for it ourselves, for the good of Atlantis. We’ve never asked for anything in return for all these favors. But now we ask Atlantis to not let Germany join Atlantis. Germany is not an Atlantis member, but a trial member. Sweden does not request Atlantis to kick out a member, only to not let Germany join Atlantis.
The question why Sweden wants to attack Germany is the one that is most frequently asked. The history between Sweden and Germany dates back a long time, and we have been at war several times. The war that has any relevancy now is the second one. The second time we attacked Germany, it was because of the polish political takeover that occurred after Germanys conquering of Poland. So basically, what we did was to help Germany get rid of their polish congress. This action was something that a lot of well-known Germans, such as DKN, agreed with. In the meantime we spoke to Poland about releasing their original regions as soon as possible. Sweden was also going to give Germany back the country when the time was right. At the end of the beta period Germany wanted the country back, which was impossible because Admin had turned off the RW feature until V1 was released.
A short time after V1 was released Sweden gave Germany half of the country back and kept the other half to be returned as soon as “Operation French toast”, a failed Atlantis attack on France, was over. The deal Sweden made with the government in Germany was that after the war with France, Sweden would give back all the remaining regions except for Schleswig-Holstein, which Sweden would keep permanently because it was a High Grain region. Sweden’s original regions do not contain any High regions, while Germany had 3, all of them in grain. “Operation French Toast” was unsuccessful, and Sweden were about to give Germany back the regions. But in the 10th of January Germany started RW in all the regions with massive amounts of help from PEACE GC, spitting on Sweden and our deals. Germany and PEACE managed to take back every region from Sweden, even Schleswig-Holstein. Germany got a Swedish Q5 DS in the region after the RW as well due to a bug. After that we spent four months trying to negotiate peace with Germany which we both would be happy with. We wanted to get SH back and get paid for our Q5 DS. The response we got was that we could buy SH from Germany for 5000 gold! After that the negotiations with Germany has been at a standstill, especially as it for a long time looked as Germany was going to join PEACE GC. But Germany decided to become a passive member of Atlantis, something Sweden voted Yes for in the Atlantis forum. We thought that this was a perfect chance to finally get peace with Germany. But that is something that has yet to happen.
In the short time that Germany has been a trial member in Atlantis, they’ve already been able to leak secret Atlantis information. Sweden has given Germany chance after chance to be trustworthy and every time they spit in not only our face but in Atlantis face as well. Sweden has done all we can to negotiate with Germany, but it has not matter what we have offered them, they always want more. They are unreasonable and untrustworthy, which they have proved time after time, and we Swedes refuse to let them spit in our faces any longer. That’s why we no longer see any other way out of this. Sweden’s last offer to Germany has been sent to them, an offer which has been leaked to the UK, who then posted it in an article posted in Sweden.
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salvaxx
y entonces ¿que hacemos?
me resulta gracioso el hecho de que digan que los suecos hacen mas daño que nosotros.
Voted. 😁
Thx for this info man!
Siddy, you misunderstood I think. Spain probably has a lot more potential damage, but Sweden has sacrificed so much gold for the sake of ATLANTIS. That's why we've been able to deal the amount of damage we've done. Check the battle historys for yourself, if you have any doubts.
Sincerely, Jan-Gunnar, Congressman of Sweden.
First of all, what does the banning of the account Karl Holm have to do with anything here? That's just ridiculous. And erhm... "[...]stayed diplomatic to find a solution[...]"? Wait, you tried to negotiate with Swedish officials? That's a big load of crap. We haven't heard a single serious proposal to try and find a peaceful solution to this.
I mean come on, you gave us an offer (cannot mention any details as we actually respect the word "Secrecy"), then you stated, behind our back, that you wouldn't help us in the plan YOU suggested. You were planning on backstabbing us yet again, even though you were our allies. Sweden has done so much for Germany, and you've done absolutely nothing to pay us back.
For those of you who are still unsure about eSwedens honesty and their supposed attempts to "negotiate", you can get a glimpse of the "quality" of their socalled proposals in the following article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/sweden-a-disgrace-for-atlantis-802635/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/swed[..]/all
This "proposal" is what was sent to the eGerman people yesterday.
The war is coming, if you want it or not!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/6597" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/6[..]/6597
Join PEACE.
I can only quote: "After that we spent four months trying to negotiate peace with Germany which we both would be happy with. We wanted to get SH back and get paid for our Q5 DS. The response we got was that we could buy SH from Germany for 5000 gold!"
Yeah, that's what I call a reasonable offer.
That was NOT my government for gods sakes, you guys are killing me.
Read what I wrote in my initial comment. I found these offers as ridiculous as you, THATS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE. So don't make ME responsibile for something that I despised as much as you did, just because im german.
In case you still didn't get it, you have an ALLY and FRIEND in charge now in eGermany.
Learn to differentiate.
more lies and bias from Sweden
let them leave!
traducción al español/spanish translation: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/traducci-n-del-comunicado-esueco-803171/1/20#comments" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/trad[..]ments
I have been living in eGermany for a time and I have to recognize that Swedish are not that good people they claim.The starkest truth about this conflict is that Sweden wants to recover citizens that are leaving the game because of boredom with this war. Im sure that the actual president of eGermany,Starkad, is not having any problem in negociating the peace with Swedeen, and even, in a last instance,giving that region to them.
However, even knowing this I will fight for atlantis (Sweeden) if they really decide to atack germany, as the main objective is to keep the alliance united.
Sorry germany if I were you, I would accept all the demands Sweeden ask for, or going to the peace alliance, becuase in this case a negotiation win-win is imposible xD
I totally agree with mecenas in that point, a win-win negotiation has became impossible now
Well if Germany would've given us what the deal was (Schleswig Holstein, one of 3 high grain regions in Germany) during the negotiations I am quite confident this would never had happened.
Kalle Holm har bara stormaktambitioner, det spelar ingen roll, vilken regering eGermany har och vilken förslag från eGermany kommer! Kalle Holm will har kriget och han manipulera alla perfekt!
Jag tror inte, att alla i eSverige eller/och i eTyskland will har kriget. Kalles Kaviar, förlåt, Kalle Holm's makt resulterar bara på hennes propaganda mot eTyskland.